Are we headed for the 500 baht avocado? Adios to green bliss ...

[Jingthing]

I read the three pages because I love avocados. Why did you read them?

Good avocados are wasted on some people.

[Turkleton]

I read the three pages because I love avocados....

Nothing wrong with Avocados per se.

But almost three pages of whining about the price etc. pp. is just annoying.

But ok, if it helps this guy to become the "MVP 2015" on TV.....well.

I'm out..

Edited May 30, 2015 by Turkleton

[gazzasore]

Thought this might of interest too

http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/x6902e/x6902e0b.htm

[Jingthing]

I can see the Florida type (leaner and when still firm) working in the kind of spicy Thai salads that use all kinds of things like corn kernels, assorted fruits, etc. I don't think fatty Haas type would work in such salads. I guess it shows the lack of innovation by modern Thai cooks that this isn't being used.

Avocados for the Thai palate (even ugly ones) could also be used in sweetened smoothies as is popular in the Philippines. I think they use the fatty type for that ... makes it rich like banana.

Of course as domestic cados are so seasonal here, it wouldn't be practical to have on many local regular menus, but could be as seasonal special dishes.

Edited June 5, 2015 by Jingthing

[DonaldBattles]

I am receipt of a new avocado product from New Zealand. It is freeze dried avocado. Has all the health benefits and available year round. 100% Haas for Americans. This combined with avocado oil can help you make it between seasons in Thailand. At Makro I noticed where the extremely small Australia ones are 53B but larger Thai ones are 23B. Time to rehabilitate your taste. I think that if we did a blind taste of Thai and USA Haas same age you could not tell the difference. Part of this comes from the tasteless flesh of the avocado.

[gazzasore]

We bought some Organic Thai Avocados yesterday at the Organic Show that's at the Central Plaza Khon Kaen

and a Huge Mango I have never seen a Mango as big before

I have a couple of Avocados sprouted from seeds I bought back from Uganda They are Huge seeds one seed was the size of an apple

I think I will also Buy some grafted trees as well to put on our Property

I also found the attached Plant docket for this Forum

[AyG]

I am receipt of a new avocado product from New Zealand. It is freeze dried avocado.

Can you explain more, please? What does it look like? How do you use it? Do you soak it in water to reconstitute the avocado? (Google hasn't been helpful for once.)

[DonaldBattles]

The freeze dried product can be reconstituted with water to make a pulp or it can be sprinkled onto foods. Not currently available in Thailand but maybe coming. The frozen guacamole and frozen pulp is available in the USA and Australia. Some of these products you can make yourself and then freeze. You will need to use a vegetable gum to hold it together and a preserving agent to hold the color and taste. I sold frozen guacamole in Thailand for a ew years. Needless to say it does not taste like the fresh product but is still tasty.

There's a blighter with a bright idea.. bugger the dead and tortured Rohigyas, let us make money

here and open a tourist spots on the boat's people graves... whoa, what a Burk...

I have a mate coming in July, I didn't realise BKK had a 2am kurfew, is there anywhere to go after 2?

Yes. Thonglor Police Station.

[AyG]

The freeze dried product can be reconstituted with water to make a pulp or it can be sprinkled onto foods. Not currently available in Thailand but maybe coming. The frozen guacamole and frozen pulp is available in the USA and Australia. Some of these products you can make yourself and then freeze. You will need to use a vegetable gum to hold it together and a preserving agent to hold the color and taste. I sold frozen guacamole in Thailand for a ew years. Needless to say it does not taste like the fresh product but is still tasty.

Frozen guacamole is still available in Thailand. I saw it in my local Makro just a few days ago. Too large a pack for it to be practical for me, but definitely available.

[connda]

Anyone know where to get avocado grafts in the Chiang Mai area?

[Jingthing]

I am receipt of a new avocado product from New Zealand. It is freeze dried avocado. Has all the health benefits and available year round. 100% Haas for Americans. This combined with avocado oil can help you make it between seasons in Thailand. At Makro I noticed where the extremely small Australia ones are 53B but larger Thai ones are 23B. Time to rehabilitate your taste. I think that if we did a blind taste of Thai and USA Haas same age you could not tell the difference. Part of this comes from the tasteless flesh of the avocado.

Yes I have already said that sometimes there are good Thai Haas type ones for sale here. Not in the regular stores now or really in several months. I guess I need to check out Makro. I can't agree that avocado is tasteless though. I guess that depends on your palate, mate.

Edited June 6, 2015 by Jingthing

[cloghead]

Anyone know where to get avocado grafts in the Chiang Mai area?

As supplied by gazzasore above: http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/x6902e/x6902e0b.htm

Does Kasetsart University have a satellite campus in/near Chiang Mai??? That might be a starting point.

My friend bought 30 grafted Haas 'cado saplings from the Pak Chong Agriculture Station last weekend. He said those were about the last ones they had.

300 baht each...

[AyG]

Just discovered that the import tariff for avocados is 33.5 baht/kilo or 40% of value. That goes part of the way to explaining why they're so expensive here.

[DonaldBattles]

Most all imports have a tax of 30% ++. The Thai government does not encourage you to import food.

[SiSePuede419]

I think people are not getting my point.

I am not talking about a short seasonal glut of Thai grown cados.

I am most certainly not talking about non-Haas or non-Haas similar cados, Thai or not.

I am talking about people who want to eat cados ALL YEAR LONG.

Yes for the most part there are some for sale here (at least in big cities) all year long and for the vast majority of the year the Haas or Haas similar ones are imported.

Mostly from Australia and New Zealand and yes, sometimes from California and Mexico.

I've been buying imports this way for many years throughout the year.

Generally ranging from 50 to 100 for imports, 50 rare, 60 to 80 more standard. Sometimes a lot more for LARGE ones.

Yes during the Thai seasons there is price relief, generally for very small ones, but it is not for long.

I am talking about the future of prices for the IMPORTED Haas cados, year long, OK?

I hope that is clear now.

Those who are happy only buying in Thai season, good for you, I am not.

Cados are one of the most healthy and delicious foods you can eat. I have regular recipes I want them for. No I will not pay 500 baht for one. I don't even like paying 100 baht but I think I will. 200 baht, we'll see.

Also as I have said before, yes there are regional differences here depending on where you live in Thailand.

It might be different if you're living in a Northern cado ranch, at least in season.

Probably in many areas you don't see imported cados in the stores almost all year as I have.

If you buy fruit--in any country--out of season, you will pay more.

Sounds like you've never grown your own food.

If you like avocados so much---plant avocado trees.

You're a rich Farang, right?

[SiSePuede419]

I think people are not getting my point.

I am not talking about a short seasonal glut of Thai grown cados.

I am most certainly not talking about non-Haas or non-Haas similar cados, Thai or not.

I am talking about people who want to eat cados ALL YEAR LONG.

Yes for the most part there are some for sale here (at least in big cities) all year long and for the vast majority of the year the Haas or Haas similar ones are imported.

Mostly from Australia and New Zealand and yes, sometimes from California and Mexico.

I've been buying imports this way for many years throughout the year.

Generally ranging from 50 to 100 for imports, 50 rare, 60 to 80 more standard. Sometimes a lot more for LARGE ones.

Yes during the Thai seasons there is price relief, generally for very small ones, but it is not for long.

I am talking about the future of prices for the IMPORTED Haas cados, year long, OK?

I hope that is clear now.

Those who are happy only buying in Thai season, good for you, I am not.

Cados are one of the most healthy and delicious foods you can eat. I have regular recipes I want them for. No I will not pay 500 baht for one. I don't even like paying 100 baht but I think I will. 200 baht, we'll see.

Also as I have said before, yes there are regional differences here depending on where you live in Thailand.

It might be different if you're living in a Northern cado ranch, at least in season.

Probably in many areas you don't see imported cados in the stores almost all year as I have.

If you buy fruit--in any country--out of season, you will pay more.

Sounds like you've never grown your own food.

If you like avocados so much---plant avocado trees.

You're a rich Farang, right?

[Jingthing]

I think people are not getting my point.

I am not talking about a short seasonal glut of Thai grown cados.

I am most certainly not talking about non-Haas or non-Haas similar cados, Thai or not.

I am talking about people who want to eat cados ALL YEAR LONG.

Yes for the most part there are some for sale here (at least in big cities) all year long and for the vast majority of the year the Haas or Haas similar ones are imported.

Mostly from Australia and New Zealand and yes, sometimes from California and Mexico.

I've been buying imports this way for many years throughout the year.

Generally ranging from 50 to 100 for imports, 50 rare, 60 to 80 more standard. Sometimes a lot more for LARGE ones.

Yes during the Thai seasons there is price relief, generally for very small ones, but it is not for long.

I am talking about the future of prices for the IMPORTED Haas cados, year long, OK?

I hope that is clear now.

Those who are happy only buying in Thai season, good for you, I am not.

Cados are one of the most healthy and delicious foods you can eat. I have regular recipes I want them for. No I will not pay 500 baht for one. I don't even like paying 100 baht but I think I will. 200 baht, we'll see.

Also as I have said before, yes there are regional differences here depending on where you live in Thailand.

It might be different if you're living in a Northern cado ranch, at least in season.

Probably in many areas you don't see imported cados in the stores almost all year as I have.

If you buy fruit--in any country--out of season, you will pay more.

Sounds like you've never grown your own food.

If you like avocados so much---plant avocado trees.

You're a rich Farang, right?

Yes of course more but paying more than 70 for an avocado any season is kind of too much.

Grown my own food? I caught a fish once but I threw it back, Does that count?

Do you think I could grow an avocado bush on my condo balcony?

Rich? No.

Farang? ... this isn't the place to get racial, dude.

[GinBoy2]

I was going to make some taco's on Sunday, but i did indeed balk at the price in Tops. I like avocado's but I can learn to live without them until the price comes down.

As for growing them...well, I have a hard time getting grass to grow on my lawn, so the idea that I could overnight develop a green thumb to start growing anything, probably ain't happening in this lifetime.

I'll cook anything, but don't ask me to grow it first!

[BKKdreaming]

Avocados wake me up !

they fall off my tree at night , bounce a few times on the roof and then thump on my car.......

this year has been crazy , I gave 10 to a Mexican family that were next to me at the swap meet and another 10 to the family across the street,

They are eaten by the squirels and possums....

Maybe I need to fill my suitcase and bring some to Thailand......

ohhh yes I am in California , the tree is 50 plus years old and someone must have given it Viagra this year because it has lots of POWER.......

[gazzasore]

Here goes one I planted on the 2nd or 3rd of May

Its about a foot tall 30cm

A very healthy looking plant

[gazzasore]

Well I chopped one stalk off my Avocado from Uganda and made it into cuttings

Also chopped the top off one of my Apple trees and made cuttings

and took some cuttings off my Coffee tree and yes More Cuttings

[balo]

1 kilo imported avocados was100 baht at Friendship this week.

[DonaldBattles]

Australian avocados are like Australian beef very expensive and tasteless. I just made a big bowl of guacamole with 35B Thai Avocados. Added citric acid and vegetable gum to freeze for future use. A lot of people are now labeling their avocados imported so the can double the price. Another Thai trick.

One of my best friends is now importing avocado oil and and I have a couple of bottles to mix as a salad sauce.

[NickJ]

I remember reading that they five plus years to bear fruit......

[grin]

I was just in California for work and the Sprouts Market near the office was selling two avocados for a dollar. For lunch my favorite sandwich at Rogers Deli is a BLT on wheat with avocado. Every time we had sushi we started with California roll with real crab and of course avocado. I sure miss all the avocado when I get back here.

Grin

[CLW]

Bought them last week at the Royal Project Store at Kasetsart University Bangkhen. Not ripe and very limited availability. 60 Baht for 4 pieces. After one day they were sold out. Kept them one week outside and today one is ripe for eating. I'll keep you updated.

[CLW]

[gazzasore]

Keep the seeds and grow them

[gazzasore]

Are they a good size

Most of the Thai ones I've seen are very small

We bought some at Tesco tonight @ 89 THB Kg but it seem they might be Australian Avocados we got 3 small ones for 63 thb

They also had even smaller Avos from NZ for around the same price

[DonaldBattles]

Do not buy from Tesco or Makro. Buy from the local market and you will get nice big ones. Most of the time the avos from Doi Kham the Royal Project are small because they pick them before they are mature. You have to shop around.

In my neighborhood in Chiang Rai they are nice big ones and so are the ones in Mae Sai that come from Burma. The mature large ones have a greater concentration of oil and are super delicious. I eat one big one every day and try to make guacamole mixed with citric acid or lime juice or lime powder a long with vegetable gum to hold the structure in place for freezing. Nothing frozen is as good as it is fresh. I have sold tons of frozen guacamole in Thailand and was not bad. Because of all of the health qualities of avocados we all agree that they are super good for you. Because the avocado is bland there are many recipes for mixing with other tasty ingredients. The imported Australian acocados is a very expensive lost cause. Eat the big ones here and enjoy a great low cost product in the fresh market at about 40B/kg. They are great.