"How do so many farang men get it so horribly wrong in Thailand when it's so easy to get it right?"

You want a F'king book on the subject?

I did it.

And will not cut and paste - they don't like it

Don't you mean, COPY and paste? Oh knowledgable one....

I gained somewhat of an interesting perspective ,watching Grand designs abroad,the couple in question,were renovating a old swiss chalet /farmhouse,at the end,she said,"i can't beilieive it is now mine" next to the wide eyed husband,who had no doubt payed for her excess,and massive ego boost,and looked after the kids,while she was finding herself through the building project,he was eyes agog and tactfully called it their building,to be met with an almost sneer from her.wimpish men like this abound now in the western world,work there balls off only for the wife to toss them away like a broken toaster,when their useufulness has gone,i know,it happened to me,i had a severe neck injury from work,my wife canned me as soon as i told her,"a cripple is no use to me' i was told,so you meet a lady in thailand,that is not only fun,likes sex,and looks after you,this can be when something could go south, but here it is 50-50 after marriage luckily for myself,i have a wonderful caring, wife,i have put some money into additions to the house,and sure i have leant money,mostly all paid back,a few not,not big sums ,what some guys here do not understand is the idea of pu yai,the big man,and the most important of all jai dee,or nam jai,now,it may be all welland good for you guys in Krung Thep{bangkok],but up here in the real Thailand i think you will often find a community that pulls together,supports some of the poorer members,and all in all is a sharing society.

That's a hell of a sentence!

I think you were probably trying to convey wisdom there, but I became so focused on trying to spot a full stop, I missed it.

A loser is a loser, and a plane ride doesn't change that fact.

would that then make a winner a winner, even if the lear jet was out of commision?

I don't know about that. But a whiner is definitely a whiner, as this forum regularly demonstrates.

You've been known to whine a bit yourself mate, maybe always having a 'dig' at the 'poorer' farangs because you are soooo rich, but still not happy

I think you might have confused me with someone else there.

I'm not rich - but I am happy, and I have nothing against poor people.