Four Thais freed after caught with gun at Pakistani airport; One still detained

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Four Thais Freed After Caught With Gun at Pakistani Airport; One Still Detained
By Khaosod English


The relatives of Faruk Suthok, one of the students arrested in Pakistan, meet with government officials in Krabi province and for help with his case, 12 June 2015.

BANGKOK — Pakistani authorities have released four of the five Thai students who were arrested for trying to smuggle a firearm and ammunition past a security checkpoint at an airport in Pakistan, a Thai official said.

The students were reportedly arrested at Allama Iqbal International Airport in Lahore on the night of 8 June, shortly before they boarded a Thai Airways flight bound for Bangkok. Thai officials say they were informed by Pakistani authorities that the five men attempted to carry a handgun, its magazine, and some ammunition onboard the aircraft.

Anusith Kunakorn, secretary-general of the National Security Council, said four of the five students have been released and are on their way back to Thailand. He said they are expected to arrive in Bangkok today.

Pakistani authorities are reportedly still investigating the fifth student.

According to Anusith, all five students arrived in Pakistan in 2013 to study at Islamic schools.

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1434098830


-- Khaosod English 2015-06-12

[AhFarangJa]

Dumb and Dumber......and Dumber, and Dumber, and Dummer.

[Somtamnication]

So how many guns were found? In whose luggage? Strange that they are now free. I know, rhetorical question.

[Pimay1]

He continued, "A majority of them are lovely. They don't understand why people interpret that anyone who goes to study abroad wants to train for combat or have certain ideologies. In reality, it isn't like that."

Of course it isn't like that Khun Anusith. Just because they went to the world's hot bed of terrorist training schools doesn't mean a thing. How did you and Rip Van Winkle enjoy your sleep?

Edited June 12, 2015 by Pimay1

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Four Thai students freed by Pakistan officials except for the fifth one



BANGKOK: -- Four Thai students held by Pakistani officials in Pakistan under suspicion of involvement with terrorist groups have been freed but the fifth is still held in custody for further questioning, said Mr Anusit Kunakorn, secretary-general of the National Security Council, on Friday.

He did not disclose the identities of the four who were cleared of the suspicion or the fifth but he said the four released students were due to be back home today.

As for the fifth student, the NSC chief said the former was a native of Pattani and the owner of a 9 mm pistol which he carried onto a plane for a flight back home and was arrested by Pakistani officials after the gun was discovered.

Initial investigation by Thai security officials has cleared the five students and their families of any involvement with insurgency activities in the Deep South or any connection with ISIS, said Mr Anusit, adding, however, deep down he was not so sure.

He said that security officials would talk with the four freed students once they arrived home.

The NSC chief said that most of the Thai Muslim students who went to Pakistan and Middle Eastern countries to study Islam were clean and did not involve with any terrorist groups. But there were a handful who had arrest warrants against them while still in Thailand or who later got involved with terrorist groups, he added.

However, he pointed out that debriefing of the returning students who help shed some light.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/four-thai-students-freed-by-pakistan-officials-except-for-the-fifth-one


-- Thai PBS 2015-06-12

[lostinisaan]

As for the fifth student, the NSC chief said the former was a native of Pattani and the owner of a 9 mm pistol which he carried onto a plane for a flight back home and was arrested by Pakistani officials after the gun was discovered

That's neither dumb, nor a joke. After 9/11 and airplanes that just disappeared from the radar and were never found, a very serious crime.

Scary to have a -sorry in this care true- Muslim with a gun on board of an airplane. That he comes from an area in Thailand, where many people get killed makes it even worse.

Of course are the other guys in no way involved in any activities that might or might not be true. Gotta be kidding....

He said that security officials would talk with the four freed students once they arrived home.

Call Mossad and they'll find ways to make them talk about all they know. really all."Talk with them, while having some Somtham, perhaps?"

I hope they don't have too much Mercy with this prick. And hopefully they'll find out what they did, planning to do, etc...

Edited June 12, 2015 by lostinisaan

[JOC]

Dumb and Dumber......and Dumber, and Dumber, and Dummer.

Oh lucky you!! You have personally met some of the members of the NLA...............

[Lite Beer]

INSURGENCY?
Four of five students set to return from Pakistan today
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Released and not believed to have ties with insurgency in far south or IS: NSC

FOUR of the five Thai students detained in Pakistan for trying to board a flight with a pistol and bullets have been released and are scheduled to arrive in Thailand at dawn today.

Pattani-based Tuan-Abdul-Rosoh Lorji, 28, was still being detained yesterday.

The other four will land in Thailand on Thai Airway's flight TG346.

National Security Council secretary-general Anusit Kunakorn repeated a statement by the deputy government spokesman that the students, who are doing a post-high school Islamic diploma, had no ties with the insurgency in the far South or Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

He said he was not aware of news reports that stated the confiscated handgun had been given to the students by a Pakistan cleric and was intended for a cleric in the South.

He said an investigation was underway into Tuan-Abdul-Rosoh's claim that a stranger convinced him to put the disassembled handgun in his luggage.

An interview with the families of the five students unearthed nothing suspicious, but further scrutiny was needed, he said.

Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said an initial investigation into the profiles of the five students showed they were clean.

He said the families feared the students would get involved with drugs so they sent them to Pakistan to study Islam at an individual cost of Bt3,000 a month.

The confiscated weapon was a nine millimetre automatic pistol, he said.

The parents of one of the students, a 19-year-old, yesterday filed a petition with at the Damrongtham Centre in Krabi pleading for fairness for their son, saying that he was well behaved and not involved in the insurgency in the far South.

Members of a community in Nong Chik district where Tuan-Abdul-Rosoh was born and raised said |that they raised Bt2,000 every |month for his daily expenses while in Pakistan.

They also raised Bt23,000 for his air ticket when he first attended the Islamic school a few years ago.

Provincial Islamic chief, Waeduramae Mamingji, said that Tuan-Abdul-Rosoh was a religious person and wanted the diploma so he could become a cleric.

Tuan-Abdul-Rosoh did a visa run every two years and always returned home on every visa break, Waeduramae said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Four-of-five-students-set-to-return-from-Pakistan--30262225.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-13

[simple1]

As for the fifth student, the NSC chief said the former was a native of Pattani and the owner of a 9 mm pistol which he carried onto a plane for a flight back home and was arrested by Pakistani officials after the gun was discovered

That's neither dumb, nor a joke. After 9/11 and airplanes that just disappeared from the radar and were never found, a very serious crime.

Scary to have a -sorry in this care true- Muslim with a gun on board of an airplane. That he comes from an area in Thailand, where many people get killed makes it even worse.

Of course are the other guys in no way involved in any activities that might or might not be true. Gotta be kidding....

He said that security officials would talk with the four freed students once they arrived home.

Call Mossad and they'll find ways to make them talk about all they know. really all."Talk with them, while having some Somtham, perhaps?"

I hope they don't have too much Mercy with this prick. And hopefully they'll find out what they did, planning to do, etc...

Torture of suspects is endemic in Pakistan, it was alluded to in the first responses by Thai authorities. Torture of suspects in Thailand has also been reported, with negative outcomes for Thai security agency personnel and civilians.

With these reports it's usually evolving with some additional clarification at a later stage e.g.

Initial investigation by Thai security officials has cleared the five students and their families of any involvement with insurgency activities in the Deep South or any connection with ISIS, said Mr Anusit, adding, however, deep down he was not so sure.

Have to see if further updates are provided to the media confirming the outcome of the interrogations upon return to Thailand.

Edited June 12, 2015 by simple1

[Pimay1]

Something just doesn't add up here. The families are saying these are good boys and they would never be involved in wrong doing yet they send them to Swat, Pakistan to attend six years of religious training. Swat is one of the most dangerous regions of Pakistan due to the presence of the taliban. School teachers carry weapons in the school. This is where the taliban massacred more than 140 students at one school. Last Thursday a teacher accidently killed a student while cleaning a weapon. The taliban justified recent attacks in Pakistan on health workers providing children with polio vaccinations, claiming the West is trying to sterilize Muslims. There are thousands of religious schools in Pakistan in areas that are safe. It is puzzling to me why these families would choose this area to send their children to study.

[Chupup]

,How on earth did they get the gun through security ? must be pretty lax there, why were the 4 released surly guilt by association applies here ? and you don't carry a gun unless you intend to use it or intimidate with it

[Chicken George]

I can inderstand going abroad to study a foreign languages but to study a religion that is something they can do in thailand. And then one brings a gun back. Nice religious young man.

[falangjim]

Congratulations to the lads on completing their religious terrorist training!

Edited June 13, 2015 by falangjim

[northernphil]

....5 men attempted to carry a hand gun........onboard. 4 were released. Can we get the real news here and not just bits.

[Carl64]

Put them all on a lifetime no fly list please.

[JOC]

The other four will land in Thailand on Thai Airway's flight TG346.

Someone is wrong!!

According to BP they were not allowed to leave Pakistan.............

Some friendly advice: Stay with your brothers in faith, the south doesn't need more religious fanatics !!

[Srikcir]

The firearm was a disassembled handgun in a passenger's checked-in luggage. The gun parts were wrapped in cloth which is not x-ray proof. Nothing covert or surreptitious.

How does this become a case of "smuggling" a firearm OUT OF Pakistan?

One might better make the case of smuggling into Thailand but the firearm never left Pakistan.

In fact Pakistan is famous for its open weapon bazzars. Pakistan customs and culture of honor promote the ownership of guns. As such it has a home-grown gunsmith tradition. For Pakistanis, a gun is a social necessity as much as an umbrella is to a Brit.

So possession of the subject firearm in Pakistan is likely NOT a crime. In fact Pakistan permits the ownership of Pakistan-made heavy weaponry including the personal use of rocket-propelled grenades, short, medium, and long-range rockets, anti-aircraft guns, mortars, etc. in tribal areas!

Rather the failure to register the subject firearm with an international air carrier probably violated international civil aviation RULES. This mean a CIVIL violation probably occured subject to a fine.

[arend]

This is bizarre. One can understand sending them to Malaysia, a moderate Muslim country for religious education right next door, but to a dangerous, extremist part of Pakistan? Very suspicious of what are the underlying motives. Perhaps, this reveals something of the underlying orientation of the parents....Anyway, Thai authorities need to uncover this...

Smuggling a gun and ammunition onto a passenger plane and returning from a Pakistani madrasa ...Yikes! (Hope this wasn't part of their final exam...)

Edited June 13, 2015 by arend

[NCC1701A]

and so the cancer grows...

[Jimlove]

These people are like snakes in the grass - better wipe them out before its too late ...

[maidee]

they cannot read the sign where it says: no guns, ammuntion, explosions ?

and they needed the gun for what exactly?

in the US, this would be a terrorist attempt and sent to a nice prison for life

[abitmiffed]

Something just doesn't add up here. The families are saying these are good boys and they would never be involved in wrong doing yet they send them to Swat, Pakistan to attend six years of religious training. Swat is one of the most dangerous regions of Pakistan due to the presence of the taliban. School teachers carry weapons in the school. This is where the taliban massacred more than 140 students at one school. Last Thursday a teacher accidently killed a student while cleaning a weapon. The taliban justified recent attacks in Pakistan on health workers providing children with polio vaccinations, claiming the West is trying to sterilize Muslims. There are thousands of religious schools in Pakistan in areas that are safe. It is puzzling to me why these families would choose this area to send their children to study.

I'm with you on this one. This story stinks like my flip flops after a night out in patong.

Mr General needs to take a closer sniff at these boys.

[Nobb]

No brainier red flags go up on every statement he and the community make about giving him donations. He should be sent to prison until he tells the truth. All

the clerics in Pakistan are mostly terrorist calling for terrorism for non believing countries. This young man is old enough to know the airline rules. They

should him in custody because he is a bad seed!

[otherstuff1957]

had no ties with the insurgency in the far South or Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

I notice that he doesn't claim that they have no ties to the Taliban, which has close ties to some of the schools in Swat!

[Basil B]

In America he would probable be arrested for not having a gun.

[whaleboneman]

These people are like snakes in the grass - better wipe them out before its too late ...

Didn't Hitler say that about the Jews?

[bendejo]

The lads will no doubt be warmly received by gov't employees when they arrive in Bangkok, and will probably be provided with free accommodation (refusal is not an option).

[cookee68]

Yes in reality it is like that, they do go to be radicalised slowly, they should have all been locked up, they know the rules, maybe it was their religious beliefs that got them released

[Nemesis7]

First of all they should be in prison and so many racist comments here but not much such comments on the US man carried gun and tried to shoot at Dallas police headquarters it was done on the same day . Not much e we said on the new when few boys from other religious faith starts shooting on innocent by standees or in the class room???? It's all about Muslims right ? Always blaming the entire faith is what makes them feel they should hate the others too .

[simple1]

The OP has now been reported as incorrect. The five Thais are still being held in Pakistan for further investigation.

MODS; time to close this topic?