midas Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) On 9/19/2016 at 9:45 PM, 4evermaat said: Doesnt matter. Too big to fail. You'll see some sort of bailout/in soon. Stay tuned to FinanceFeeds.net and FinanceMagnates.com as they are likely to have breaking news coverage. Maybe but maybe not Merkel Rules out Assistance for Deutsche Bank, Focus Reports " the company's default risk has soared higher and is now the widest name in the Markit iTraxx index " http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-24/merkel-rules-out-assistance-for-deutsche-bank-focus-reports Edited September 26, 2016 by midas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 What does this mean for db-x ETF tracker funds? I have avoided buying these because they are "synthetic" : rather than buying actual constituents of an index, e.g. UK government bonds, they enter into an agreement with a bank or financial institution which pays them the amount that the index has risen. I have the economic knowledge and understanding of a dim 12 year old, but I have always avoided synthetic ETFs, simply because they are beyond my understanding, but sound dodgy. The counterparty bank for db-x trackers is Deutsche Bank - does this mean investors in db-x ETFs will lose their money if Deutsche Bank fails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 17 hours ago, partington said: What does this mean for db-x ETF tracker funds? I have avoided buying these because they are "synthetic" : rather than buying actual constituents of an index, e.g. UK government bonds, they enter into an agreement with a bank or financial institution which pays them the amount that the index has risen. I have the economic knowledge and understanding of a dim 12 year old, but I have always avoided synthetic ETFs, simply because they are beyond my understanding, but sound dodgy. The counterparty bank for db-x trackers is Deutsche Bank - does this mean investors in db-x ETFs will lose their money if Deutsche Bank fails? It seems to me that unless you're in something like a bear fund you are unlikely to come out ahead if Deutsche Bank fails? http://www.barrons.com/articles/look-whos-shorting-deutsche-bank-1474370588 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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