Cam-agra

[marshbags]

I guy ( truthfully ) asked me to enquire locally about the price of Camagra for him.

I talked to my local well respected pharmacist. English speaking.

He said it is a banned drug in Thailand ( not authorised )

It comes in via China and India in most cases via the black market.

He said it only contains certain properties, unlike the authorised ones, Viagra and one another ?

The genuine ones also contain properties to prevent certain side effects relating to the heart / blood flow and effects on the blood vessels.

The main danger is regarding the eyes which are effected by the copies.

They will eventually cause you to have blurred vision and deterioration to your eyes.

Burst blood vessels in them being a major risk also as they are the weakest of all the vessels.

Raised blood pressure and heart problems already existing could cause death at the extreme end.

This is a serious post to try to put across what the pharmacist told me and i hope it will at least make you think about using cheap alternatives.

He did say that the genuine ones contain things to address the blood flow related side effects.

He also said and i agree,

" it is not worth it to buy cheap versions and risk your life / health. "

E.G. copies around 400 baht for 4 tablets, authourised versions from 1,200 baht.

It,s up to you as the saying goes but think about it.

You can still have all the sex your body can handle by using the genuine versions, preferably Viagra.

marshbags

Edited September 17, 2006 by marshbags

[Pattaya_Fox]

Of course there are those of us who don`t need to take these things.

It is a well known fact that many of these copy drugs do not have the correct properties as the original tested and approved drugs.

Any drug which is bought for medical reasons should only be purchased if the pharmacist/doctor recommends it. Stay safe.

[awayfoe]

I guy ( truthfully ) asked me to enquire locally about the price of Camagra for him.

I talked to my local well respected pharmacist. English speaking.

He said it is a banned drug in Thailand ( not authorised )

It comes in via China and India in most cases via the black market.

He said it only contains certain properties, unlike the authorised ones, Viagra and one another ?

The genuine ones also contain properties to prevent certain side effects relating to the heart / blood flow and effects on the blood vessels.

The main danger is regarding the eyes which are effected by the copies.

They will eventually cause you to have blurred vision and deterioration to your eyes.

Burst blood vessels in them being a major risk also as they are the weakest of all the vessels.

Raised blood pressure and heart problems already existing could cause death at the extreme end.

This is a serious post to try to put across what the pharmacist told me and i hope it will at least make you think about using cheap alternatives.

He did say that the genuine ones contain things to address the blood flow related side effects.

He also said and i agree,

" it is not worth it to buy cheap versions and risk your life / health. "

E.G. copies around 400 baht for 4 tablets, authourised versions from 1,200 baht.

It,s up to you as the saying goes but think about it.

You can still have all the sex your body can handle by using the genuine versions, preferably Viagra.

marshbags

hi dear

do you speak about KAMAGRA ?? oral jelly

made in India under supervision serious company

but read directions for use

USE STRICLY UNDER MEDICAL SUPERVISION

[Ulysses G.]

Of course there are those of us who don`t need to take these things.

Count me in!

[yoshiwara]

the worst thing (sometimes) about kamagra is the occasional zero effect followed by a following morning raging 'er *******. Timing is all!

[awayfoe]

the worst thing (sometimes) about kamagra is the occasional zero effect followed by a following morning raging 'er *******. Timing is all!

If you take any alcool before like beer or other you must wait for any result !!!!!

but same with viagra.

better to take this medecine before you go bar ...........and quick result and only 100 mg for kamagra bcz sildenafil citrate can't mix with alcool

[Nam Kao]

I heard it is only for Cam girls

[Noel]

I tried Viagra once, simply because I wanted to see what the effect was.

A waste of time in my opinion, as the tab kept falling off my shining bell-end.

Btw, these types of drugs actually lower blood pressure...

[Ulysses G.]

I tried Viagra once, simply because I wanted to see what the effect was.

A waste of time in my opinion, as the tab kept falling off my shining bell-end.

You are supposed to insert it inside!

[Rimmer]

There is (or was) a hugh sign on top of one of the buildings along second road warnig you that 'Imitation Viagra is a dead end'

Edited September 17, 2006 by Rimmer

[Pattaya_Fox]

There is (or was) a hugh sign on top of one of the buildings along second road warnig you that 'Imitation Viagra is a dead end'

Yes ` Erected` by Phyzer who manufacture Viagra.

[Thaiquila]

Just a minute there.

Vision issues, even blindness, are a possible effect of using REAL Viagra or Cialis.

If it is a REAL generic, they use the EXACT SAME active ingredient.

The pharma companies of course have a vested interest in scaring you into buying their product, as perhaps so does that pharmacist.

Info here on VISION RISK from these products:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=100...=top_world_news

[Nongwahyay]

A friend of mine told me about Kamagra, which one of his friends brings back with him from his many trips to Thailand, about a year ago. (He pays 600 Baht for 4 - it´s apparently availabe only at very few chemists). Although - at the age of 53 - I still don´t need it at all, I decided to try it out, just to see the effect.............. it was amazing!!!! After about 20 minutes I felt a warm glow flow through the whole of my body. My member became as rigid as a steel bolt, felt twice as thick as normal.... and stayed that way until my wife and I "finished" after about one hour......... but even then it didn´t soften............ and a repeat performance the following morning was just as successful!!!! One drawback, however, is that it gives you a headache - so............ I tried using half a tablet. The effects were almost equally as good ......... but without the headache. I still have a few left... and just slip in half or even a third of a tablet now and again for "special occasions"!!!!! On one occasion, however, I must confirm that the effect was zero............or should I say, the "extra effect"..... it didn´t stop me from having a good time though.........

As for them making you go blind........... I thought that was too much use of the hand????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mazo]

This sign rimmer

[kayo]

That ad made cappucino stains on my keyboard and monitor. Edited September 17, 2006 by kayo

[Thaiquila]

A whole lot of the so called authentic Pfizer products are actually fake. It seems to me there is less motivation to make fakes of actual generics, as the price is cheaper already.

[icecubes]

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quote name='marshbags' date='2006-09-17 17:50:18' post='898974]

E.G. copies around 400 baht for 4 tablets, authourised versions from 1,200 baht.

Why pay that much, just get two old lolly sticks and some selotape,

it does the trick and it wont ware off. the tape that is

[djinn]

I must admit I like the special boost given by these products

So I have some experience with them

Viagra:good but headaches and I sweep a lot

Kamagra:I sweep a lot

Penagra (pink pill):same same Viagra without any inconvenience

Caverta (red pills):same same Viagra without any inconvenience and the best boost

Kamagra,Penagra,Caverta price between 250 and 500 per blister (4 pills) in many pharmacies in Pattaya

I tried Cialis;absolutely no effect on me still 3 hours running OK

[kayo]

I must admit I like the special boost given by these products

So I have some experience with them

Viagra:good but headaches and I sweep a lot

Kamagra:I sweep a lot

:

Why

So much???

You must be vewy vewy

[think_too_mut]

There is (or was) a hugh sign on top of one of the buildings along second road warnig you that 'Imitation Viagra is a dead end'

Took a pic of it July last year:

[kurgen]

Why pay that much, just get two old lolly sticks and some selotape,

it does the trick and it wont ware off. the tape that is

WARNING .

do not use double sided sticky tape

[udon]

The genuine ones also contain properties to prevent certain side effects relating to the heart / blood flow and effects on the blood vessels.

WRONG!

Any product containing Sildenafil Citrate should not be taken by anyone with heart issues or on any type of heart medication.

[Thaiquila]

The genuine ones also contain properties to prevent certain side effects relating to the heart / blood flow and effects on the blood vessels.

WRONG!

Any product containing Sildenafil Citrate should not be taken by anyone with heart issues or on any type of heart medication.

I concur. If the generics are authentic, they have the same active ingredient as the original. A big cause of death from these meds are from people taking nitroglycerine for heart pain. Mixing them kills. I am sure there are other contraindications as well. Best of course to talk to a doctor.

[Rimmer]

Just a minute there.

Vision issues, even blindness, are a possible effect of using REAL Viagra or Cialis.

If it is a REAL generic, they use the EXACT SAME active ingredient.

The pharma companies of course have a vested interest in scaring you into buying their product, as perhaps so does that pharmacist.

Info here on VISION RISK from these products:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=100...=top_world_news

That's very interesting, thanks for that.

In other words 23million men take the drug and the FDA have 43 reports of vision problems. Anybody got a calculater handy with lots of digits?

[Thaiquila]

Nobody said it was a COMMON side effect. Just that its possible.

I had never heard that there was any extra problems with generics. If anyone has any links (other than gossip from a pharmacist who stood to make a bigger profit) showing that this is really the case?

I suppose if the generics were really low quality, fakes, or defective but in Thailand you run that same risk with so called "real" brand name meds. However, I was under the impression that authentic Indian generics were decent quality.

[Jai Dee]

I think I'll move this topic to the health forum.

/Moved.

[marshbags]

The genuine ones also contain properties to prevent certain side effects relating to the heart / blood flow and effects on the blood vessels.

WRONG!

Any product containing Sildenafil Citrate should not be taken by anyone with heart issues or on any type of heart medication.

I should have added to the eyes at the end of this sentence and thought it was a forgone conclusion that anyone with a heart defect is strongly advised not to use these products without professional imput on the possible risks.

Sorry i didn,t expand on this Udon, this is part of the advice given by my pharmasist friend and is basic information to hopefully make whoever wants the info seek further information via their family / personal doctor and to have awareness.

Incidently he is offered large supplies of copy drugs and refuses them due to his professional ethics and standing respect for health.

This is a " Guideline " only and is as stated, basic and each individual can then expand via other qualified channels if they wish to know more.

Each individual will i hope be taking the information into account to compliment what they personally

know there health situation is.

Experience wise i,m sorry to say i cannot comment on the use of the various products

The idea is for those out there who are using the black market copies of Cam-agra to be aware of

what it is and the risks due to certain important ingredients relevant to Viagra are not added.

The Thai pharmasutical department will not give approval for unauthorised generics, especially Cam-agra which is from India and comes into this country via Malaysia and China in huge quantities.

The important thing to remember is what,s approved in India doesn,t make it an approved drug for Thailand.

It also doesn,t mean it,s 100 % safe to take either just because the people who are making it say so ( for finacial gain only ) ????????????????????????????????

Try googling it if you want more information or better still get your doctor back home to advise you.

If you want to take it then it,s up to the individual at the end of the day and at least you,ll die with a smile on your face should you expire from it.

Thanks by the way for all the additional comments, both serious and humerous. ( Noels was a good one. )

Thanks also for moving it to the health forum J.D., i did my usual cock up ( ha ha ha ) and must have opened it up on an existing thread.

Apologies due and i,ll try to do better

marshbags

Edited September 20, 2006 by marshbags

[marshbags]

Nobody said it was a COMMON side effect. Just that its possible.

I had never heard that there was any extra problems with generics. If anyone has any links (other than gossip from a pharmacist who stood to make a bigger profit) showing that this is really the case?

I suppose if the generics were really low quality, fakes, or defective but in Thailand you run that same risk with so called "real" brand name meds. However, I was under the impression that authentic Indian generics were decent quality.

Sorry i missed your post on my last visit to this thread, but now i have read it i feel i should reply and add support to Tq.

First of all any risks whatever on the patient from taking any drug, no matter how slight, will prevent it from being registered for use in most of the countries we originate from.

Forget the percentages, any risks no matter how small are relevant on granting a licence for there use.

I,m not sure if Tq is generalising out here, but while there are many pharmacists of questionable ethics and standards in Thailand.

You will find that the genuine ones who are legally registered as such have more to loose in monetary terms, not to mention there licences and registrations ect. by

" gossiping to make a bigger profit. "

If you ever go to Malaysia i recommend you go look around the " Little Indias " and see for yourself just how much trash is being marketed for people fool enough to think they are safe due to authentic claims.

Because of this it is very difficult to tell which are the fakes of dubious quality.

Incidently they did a programme on the BBC some time ago about the effects these generics where having in the third world, especially African countries.

They also went to India and filmed under cover just how easy it was to duplicate ANY drug, make it look authentic, backed up by printed information to make it look the real deal.

They provided a couple, prozact being one of them and where presented with the duplicates all boxed up with just minute differences in the wording / design of the boxes that where not easily detected, only on close scrutiny.

All within 24 hours.

They also interviewed a health minister about there concerns and ask as to why the government did not control these businesses via licencing the ones qualified / genuine and shut all the others down.

The minister would not accept their claims and said only that it was difficult to control them in any case. ( fobbed them off ) and generally they did a service to all the poor countries who could not afford the originals.

He did of course promise to look into the allegations anyway.

Most of the drugs being bought and distributed where found not only to be worthless but to give very dangerous and life threatening side effects to the poverty stricken people that had no choice but to take them, mainly due to ignorance and the ability to pay much, if anything and are dependant on the corrupt bodies that supply them. ( African ) on behalf of the UN who pay for the genuine article of course.

If anyone also wishes to visit Udonthani, i,ll be more than happy to take you personally to check my local pharmacist out, then you can decide for yourself if he is as ethical as i say he is and if he is genuinely worried about the possible side effects of these unauthorised drugs and the well being of his customers or " profit. "

marshbags

P.S.

I,m not telling you not to take stuff, just offering advice that was passed on freely to me.

Edited September 22, 2006 by marshbags

[PeaceBlondie]

Kamagra (at least the packets sold near Tha Pae Gate in Chiang Mai at the good pharmacist) and even on Soi Patong (not at Boots) work fine.

For my Chinese friend, however, Kamagra didn't do a thing. Don't know why.

You never know 100% for sure.

[Cialis Rocks]

Previous posts have spoken of 'approved' drugs in Thailand - I wonder what the process is, presumably based on who pays who what. Generics from approved labs are, I believe, generally accepted in Europe and the UK!