IMHO Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Here it is petrol pronounced "Petron" It would be pronounced "petron" if it were transliterated to Thai, or read by a Thai with not so great English skills, yes. But that's not going to happen very often because Thai's don't normally use that word... the official translation of "petrol" to Thai is "เบนซิน" = Benzine, pronounced: "ben-sin" or "ben-zin". If you're hearing the word "petrol/petron" spoken, it's probably just because you've taught some people to say it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellie Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Benzine is being phased out everywhere. Used to be able to get it at any station up until a few years ago. ?? Some posts are simply strange. What country are you referring to? Did you follow the thread in any way? I am not aware of any plans to phase out benzine 95. As written benzine 91 was phased out some two years (?) ago. Was reffering to 91 but yes there are plans to phase out benzine 95 too but not for all oil/gas companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Why not just ask for "Old Banger Fuel", they know "Gow Ha", or 95 is for them. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Problem of the op he is that he asked for 91. All 91 contains ethanol. Should have asked for 95. And as opposed to gasoline with oil or gasoline with lead they can't phase out gasoline without alcohol as some vintage cars or high performance cars can't handle ethanol. For oil and lead you could buy additives, but you can't take the ethanol out of the petrol yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandforumaddict Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It seems that using gasohol is not a problem for any engine ? How long Thai have been using it actually ? I don't know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortenaa Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It seems that using gasohol is not a problem for any engine ? How long Thai have been using it actually ? I don't know ? Many cars, especially European cars before 2011 or so can't handle ethanol. I have some friends learned that the hard way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Ethanol produces less energy than gasoline so blended fuels such as E10 and E20 will provide a reduced performance compared to straight gasoline but it is marginal. Ethanol fuels also give less km/l. However, for the average motorist that is offset by the lower cost. My wifes 1600cc car is warranted for use with E20 but she uses E10 because she dislikes the drop in performance with the former. In some countries, Brazil is a good example, they run their cars on 100% ethanol so the engine designs must be optimised to suit that fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBob Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I use Caltex gasohol 91 in my cars(10% alcohol). Caltex also sells gasohol 95 octane (blue) and premium grade octane 95 (gold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akampa Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnETiRDTju this link explains what a rip off ethanol is sorry link does not work check out AvE on you tube sub heading under Manly -man: Don`t use ethanol blended gasoline. Edited August 27, 2015 by akampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Caltex has 95 regular gasoline at some stations, for example Naradhiwas. Not sure if it's still available but Caltex used to have an app showing the gas available at locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It seems that using gasohol is not a problem for any engine ? How long Thai have been using it actually ? I don't know ? Ethanol laced fuels started becoming available sparsely in 2003. In 2005 tax incentives for cars compatible with E10 started, and most makes started supporting it / it became widely available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biplanebluey Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The PTT yellow is pure 95 octane gasoline. NO it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzarella Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 In Brazil, since 1979, most cars are running in 100% alcohol without any problem...and...in case of running short to get into a gas station...to stop in a pharmacy or supermarket may resolve the problem. Very soon...will happens here too. Alcohol is cheaper and cleaner..and it is organic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 What is Gasohol and what is Ethanol gasohol Automobile fuel: a fuel used in motor vehicles that consists of 90 percent gasoline blended with 10 percent alcohol. The alcohol is produced by the fermentation of an agricultural product high in sugar, e.g. corn. [Late 20th century. Blend of gasoline + alcohol] Microsoft® Encarta® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. ethanol Liquid in alcoholic beverages: a colorless liquid with a pleasant smell. Source: fermentation by yeasts and other microorganisms. Use: in alcoholic beverages, as solvent, in the manufacture of other chemicals. Formula: C2H5OH Microsoft® Encarta® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Okay now that is settled on to the next. Brazil is the only country running on pure gasohol. Thailand for a starter jumped in the fray with E-10 meaning the gasoline contained 10% gasohol. After this process was established up and running and the gasohol producers were able to supply double the amount then E-20 came on the market. To make sure vehicle owners knew what they were doing the E-10 sticker appeared in the back windows of cars, put in there by the vehicle manufacturer. Then when E-20 appeared on the scene the E-20 sticker made its appearance. Now 2015 all that is history. There are no more indications what the vehicle is using because straight gasoline practically speaking has disappeared. You buy E-20 if you like it or nor after all customers in this fascist capitalist world “have a choice”. Take it or Leave it. Gasohol has less BTU than straight Gasoline. My car (modern vehicle Drive by wire) the onboard computer shows on straight 91 gasoline I get 17.6 KML with 91 E-20 I get 16.3 KML What do I get now September 2015??? It’s anybody’s guess. Reason, gasohol now is more expensive than regular gasoline but the Oil Co. have a contract to buy gasohol of which there now is an oversupply, they tried to get out of the purchase contract but the Gov. told them they had a contract and had to adhere to it. So now the E-20 has become any amount, I know this because the onboard computer keeps showing fluctuating KML and at times is as low as 15.6 KML. Pls. understand, Straight gasoline by Thai Law is outlawed. How you interpret Thai Law that is as the Thais say, “Up to you”. Warning, if you drive an older model gasoline powered vehicle from BEFORE the E-10 days you are cruising for a bruising. Gasohol being an alcohol product and alcohol has a tendency to make flexible seals and fuel lines SWELL which eventually starves the engine for fuel. As luck will have it the engine will let you know by the power of the engine gradually going down before it stops entirely. What can you do about it? Not much outside of replacing all the flex seals and fuel lines in the vehicle. If you disregard the WARNING eventually you will coast to a stop along the AH19 and AH123 and you will open the hood and look stupid looking in to the engine compartment because there is nothing to show you what has happen. The engine did die for lack of fuel. Have a nice day, DrFransBRoosPh.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I use Caltex gasohol 91 in my cars(10% alcohol). Caltex also sells gasohol 95 octane (blue) and premium grade octane 95 (gold). It all depends which Caltex Station if it is a heavy truck business station you're lucky if you find one pump for 91 and one pump ffor 95. The rest of the pumps are ALL Diesel fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I suggest you read your owners manual and use ONLY what they state. Engines of old use to be able to handle higher octanes, mix and match, etc. but that is no longer true today unless you have an engine spicificly that states otherwse. Go ahead and use the 95 octane and tell us in a few months how your engine did or didn't do and how much it cost you to fix it. Car manufactires are not stupid. They make the engines run relyably on the best blend for that engine. If they didn't they wouldn't be selling many cars. The source of my comment: http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline Edited August 31, 2015 by Mrjlh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingmai331 Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Would add to the Professor's correct comments about the seals etc, that the alcohol in the tank can form a thin film which floats around in the tank. These bits of film can clog up the suction tube and the net result is no fuel to the carb or injectors. When this happened, once a week, we opened the line near the carb and blow, by mouth, air thru the tube to set free the film back into the fuel tank. To professionally clean the tank was too expensive as the fuel vapors were dangerous. At least this happened to me in USA, a colder clime. I'll be searching the petrol stations in CM for straight gasoline, octane rating be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I suggest you read your owners manual and use ONLY what they state. Engines of old use to be able to handle higher octanes, mix and match, etc. but that is no longer true today unless you have an engine spicificly that states otherwse. Go ahead and use the 95 octane and tell us in a few months how your engine did or didn't do and how much it cost you to fix it. Car manufactires are not stupid. They make the engines run relyably on the best blend for that engine. If they didn't they wouldn't be selling many cars. The source of my comment: http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline Engines of old sometimes require higher octanes, but also modern engines can handle higher octanes. But it does not benefit them, so shy spend extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffo77 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 You will find Benzine at PTT, Esso and Caltex. Shell V-Power 95 only contains about 5% alcohol, so most newer cars should be OK with it.. Benzene used to be used for cleaning, aftershave, a solvent in many glues. It's quite a nasty chemical and in laboratories is normally used under an extractor fan, as it is carcinogenic. However, the chemical benzine (benzene) is not related to petrol (gasoline). It's a name which continued on from the early use and invention of the vehicle engine, and is commonly called benzene in Europe, but in fact it's gasoline. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene I am not talking about Benzene, but Benzine (as the Thais call it), or Bensin (as Europeans say including scandis as myself) - which is as u correctly state Petrol or Gasoline in the US of A. Different countries, different meanings of a the same word... From Wikipedia: In many countries, gasoline has a colloquial name derived from that of the chemical benzene (e.g., German Benzin, Dutch benzine, Italian benzina, Polish benzyna, Chilean Spanish bencina, Thai เบนซิน bayn sin , Greek βενζίνηvenzini, Romanian benzină, Swedish bensin, Arabic بنزين binzīn). Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and Italy use the colloquial name nafta derived from that of the chemical naphtha.[40] sorry to say wikipedia's wrong...nafta in Italian indicates diesel fuel, benzina is gasoline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffo77 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 ...and only my lawn mower goes on pure gasoline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 95 octane benzene (petrol) nowadays is widely available at the big stations. 91 octane benzene has been abondoned long ago (2 years or so). At PTT stations benzene is recognizable by the yellow background color. The Thai script is the transcript for "benzene". fuels.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBob Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I use Caltex gasohol 91 in my cars(10% alcohol). Caltex also sells gasohol 95 octane (blue) and premium grade octane 95 (gold). It all depends which Caltex Station if it is a heavy truck business station you're lucky if you find one pump for 91 and one pump ffor 95. The rest of the pumps are ALL Diesel fuel. Not an issue here in Pattaya. No heavy truck business in the stations I use. I can pull up to the pump and the attendant often asks "91 gasohol" by default? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingmai331 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Update on benzine in my clunker. Found a gas station with the gold label benzine and topped up with 800 baht. Was running on 91 gasohol. What a pleasant improvement in performance. I tromped on the pedal and sped away with no coughing or hesitation. I'll continue to burn this benzine for awhile and enjoy the zip. Eventually may drift back to half gasohol and half benzine. Or some combo. And would suggest if your older car is not as peppy as you might like, try some hi octane benzine for a few months. Sure a bit more expensive but it's rather like viagra: helps a bit to get over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Update on benzine in my clunker. Found a gas station with the gold label benzine and topped up with 800 baht. Was running on 91 gasohol. What a pleasant improvement in performance. I tromped on the pedal and sped away with no coughing or hesitation. I'll continue to burn this benzine for awhile and enjoy the zip. Eventually may drift back to half gasohol and half benzine. Or some combo. And would suggest if your older car is not as peppy as you might like, try some hi octane benzine for a few months. Sure a bit more expensive but it's rather like viagra: helps a bit to get over the hump. For high octane you can use gasohol 95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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