Merkel vows 'no tolerance' of anti-refugee violence

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Merkel vows 'no tolerance' of anti-refugee violence
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BERLIN, Aug. 27 (Xinhua) -- German Chancellor Angela Merkel visited on Wednesday a violence-hit refugee home, vowing that Germany would have no tolerance for xenophobic attacks on asylum-seekers.

Far-right protesters booed the chancellor as she arrived at a refugee center in the eastern German town of Heidenau near Dresden.

Hundreds of far-right extremists had staged violent protests at the shelter last weekend, injuring dozens of police officers, according to media reports.

Merkel held talks on Wednesday with refugees, volunteers and security staff at the refugee home to get an impression of the local situation.

She strongly condemned the violent demonstrations against refugees, saying "there will be no tolerance for those who call into question the dignity of other people."

Full story: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-08/26/c_134558595.htm

-- Xinhua 2015-08-27

[JDGRUEN]

I have watched the coverage of this on 2 - 3 World News channels ... and she vows to allow in 800,000 'refugees' .. I personally think she will get backed down on this ... There are some who are violent and others who are just speaking out - which one would think would be a right to speak out ... But in EU countries - I guess citizens have no such rights ... just the might of the government sword. Just "Accept your culture being debased and accept the loss of jobs and shut up"... seems to be Merkel's policy ...

When tens of thousands protest with non violence and civil disobedience what is she going to do ?

I suppose she will just declare that citizens have no rights...

[NeverSure]

^^^ They have no rights and no power. They gave that away for feel-good PC rhetoric they still don't understand. They gave up their rights to self defense in favor of letting the government protect them and see where that is getting them, all over Europe.

Cheers.

[Loptr]

^^^ They have no rights and no power. They gave that away for feel-good PC rhetoric they still don't understand. They gave up their rights to self defense in favor of letting the government protect them and see where that is getting them, all over Europe.

Cheers.

Not just in the EU...

[Credo]

But NATO will protect them....maybe....later?

[Linky]

I have watched the coverage of this on 2 - 3 World News channels ... and she vows to allow in 800,000 'refugees' .. I personally think she will get backed down on this ... There are some who are violent and others who are just speaking out - which one would think would be a right to speak out ... But in EU countries - I guess citizens have no such rights ... just the might of the government sword. Just "Accept your culture being debased and accept the loss of jobs and shut up"... seems to be Merkel's policy ...

When tens of thousands protest with non violence and civil disobedience what is she going to do ?

I suppose she will just declare that citizens have no rights...

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. When tens of thousands protest with non violence then come back and tell us. Until then the topic is the protestors violence, and that is wrong.

[NeverSure]

^^^ Sometimes violence is necessary. There have been some very effective and necessary revolutions in our history.

Who told us that violence was always wrong? Who are these liars? Who told us to roll over and play dead while we watch countries devolve?

Some things are worth dying for. I guess we forgot that?

[JDGRUEN]

I have watched the coverage of this on 2 - 3 World News channels ... and she vows to allow in 800,000 'refugees' .. I personally think she will get backed down on this ... There are some who are violent and others who are just speaking out - which one would think would be a right to speak out ... But in EU countries - I guess citizens have no such rights ... just the might of the government sword. Just "Accept your culture being debased and accept the loss of jobs and shut up"... seems to be Merkel's policy ...

When tens of thousands protest with non violence and civil disobedience what is she going to do ?

I suppose she will just declare that citizens have no rights...

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. When tens of thousands protest with non violence then come back and tell us. Until then the topic is the protestors violence, and that is wrong.

I have watched the video coverage in great detail. It seems that waving a fist is extreme violence. I predict the minority in these crowds will cut back or stop their violence ... and the angry but non violent ones will predominate....I will post the videos when they appear... Neighboring countries have peaceful protests and they are being ignored too...

[JDGRUEN]

England has totally shut the gate on allowing anyone to sneak in via the Chunnel - if they can stop them, England has announce extensive plans to beef up barriers, plus England has warned illegal aliens that their wages will be confiscated and the employers have been warned of serious fines and penalties for employing illegals ... Hungry has erected a hundred mile barbed wire fence and is in the process of replacing it with a much taller and effective one. Slovakia declares it will accept only Christian refugees - not Muslims...

Sounds like a Trend to me....

[Usernames]

Germans essentially have no political voice. Both Merkel's party and the main opposition party govern in a "grand coalition" which ensures almost no alternative voices are allowed. Whenever those voices do emerge, especially on matters of culture, citizenship, and "refugees," they are declared illegal and forbidden from public discourse. Germany is an authoritarian state, where the rules dictate that the same people stay in power decade after decade.

[Linky]

Well to get back on topic. I condemn the violent protests. Protests ok, the violence,no.

But seems some of you think the violence is ok.

[JDGRUEN]

Germans essentially have no political voice. Both Merkel's party and the main opposition party govern in a "grand coalition" which ensures almost no alternative voices are allowed. Whenever those voices do emerge, especially on matters of culture, citizenship, and "refugees," they are declared illegal and forbidden from public discourse. Germany is an authoritarian state, where the rules dictate that the same people stay in power decade after decade.

Whenever those voices do emerge, especially on matters of culture, citizenship, and "refugees," they are declared illegal and forbidden from public discourse...

When this happens ... ( rightly or wrongly) people begin to feel that violence is the only effective speech that they are allowed...

[JDGRUEN]

This topic is all the news fit to be news on the 24 hour European news channels that I am watching ... And they pony up every sob sister socialist liberal - none of whom can count. They only see the problem right before them -- a few hundred thousand so called 'refugees'. These pundits cannot fathom the fact that with instant communications - and the 'refugees' do have smartphones and the Internet - at least one per family or group. And all their friends back home do to. So every success story breeds thousands more who try to migrate...

The PROBLEM - the numbers who try to migrate to Europe will multiply almost exponentially in just a few months to a year or two years to becoming millions of 'migrants' -- then ten million... But when blinded by feel good socialism where the money never runs out -- when the jobless in one's own EU country do not matter, where places to stash them are never ending ... BUT what matters to them - is to FEEL GOOD -- be nice - no matter the consequences... the consequences that they do not even consider.

These pundits seem never to have become aware that the country they live in has a fragile culture - but they do like it ... it is part of being French, or being German ... and all the while they cannot recognize that all that will disappear more rapidly than they can even imagine ... partly because they refuse to imagine it ... That is not what a good socialist liberal does - deal with reality ... These pundits not only cannot count - they cannot hear nor see... they are totally blind to what unbridled immigration has done to England or Sweden...

EU Politicians who live in high walled gated communities, who send out their servants to buy groceries and dine at 5 star restaurants are totally oblivious to what is going on or just plain do not care.

[schlog]

Yet you sit up there, you cowardly figures paid by the enemy and the people to ridicule. But once justice will prevail again, then directed the people and God's grace to you.......T.Koerner

[MockingJay]

That spineless Merkel swine will leave the bridge once she has fulfilled her task: Running Germany into the ground. Dogooderdom and political correctness is THE mantra right now in any German TV show, up to a degree that makes you vomit. Anyone who dares to question the "immigration policy" is put into the right wing corner and spat at. Instead of 400.000 there will be over 800.000 immigrants right now YEARLY, a majority not coming from countries of war and violence, just to indulge in free accommodation, clothing, furniture, food and better pay than any average German worker would get. It's up to the boiling point already and civil war within the next 5 years is imminent. Thousands of those immigrants are radical islam and simply have thrown their papers away, creating new identities, and passports before they hit the German borders. Merkel just sits back with her stupid double chinned grin, cooking up a storm of immeasurable dimensions. I am happy to have left that $_!thole called Germany long time ago and I will never return, because I saw it all coming. Germany is dead.

Edited August 27, 2015 by MockingJay

[Steely Dan]

I have watched the coverage of this on 2 - 3 World News channels ... and she vows to allow in 800,000 'refugees' .. I personally think she will get backed down on this ... There are some who are violent and others who are just speaking out - which one would think would be a right to speak out ... But in EU countries - I guess citizens have no such rights ... just the might of the government sword. Just "Accept your culture being debased and accept the loss of jobs and shut up"... seems to be Merkel's policy ...

When tens of thousands protest with non violence and civil disobedience what is she going to do ?

I suppose she will just declare that citizens have no rights...

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. When tens of thousands protest with non violence then come back and tell us. Until then the topic is the protestors violence, and that is wrong.

I have watched the video coverage in great detail. It seems that waving a fist is extreme violence. I predict the minority in these crowds will cut back or stop their violence ... and the angry but non violent ones will predominate....I will post the videos when they appear... Neighboring countries have peaceful protests and they are being ignored too...

If you look at the law and order records of far left anti-racist (pro-Muslim-Immigration) groups versus that of so called ’far right' groups it is usually the former that account for more arrests and more public order offenses. Though press coverage tends to omit such inconvenient facts.

[MockingJay]

Well to get back on topic. I condemn the violent protests. Protests ok, the violence,no.

But seems some of you think the violence is ok.

Problem is the immigrants are violent too! And that to an extend you would not believe! In one part of Germany they have destroyed a complete refugee apartment block while shouting "Allahhuakhbar!" attacking police, reporters and even those who tried to help. No leftist liberal dogooders were around then, because they might get beaten up or killed by the immigrants, and that would be bad news for political correctness. Rapes, deadly assaults, theft, armed robbery, and violence did skyrocket in past years in Germany. The media has strict rules to not disclose names or race in their articles, so whenever it says "On the evening of (date) a "man" raped and killed (age) year old (name) in the town of ....." you know it was an immigrant. Nice, huh?

But now comes the cream on top; Whenever it comes to violent protests with cars, streets and houses burning and policemen getting either killed or hospitalized, it was a protest conducted by leftists and so-called liberals. But don't be worried. No public outcry, no condemnation...

If right wingers wave a few flags, walk and sing their songs, the very moment a fist is raised into the air, an A4 blow up of this will be on front pages and the "violent protests" of the right wingers will then be publicly condemned with politicians naming those attending "pigs, radical fanatic idiots, lowlifes, scum, bottom feeders". And those spineless politicians will have their 5 minutes of politically correct fame in the limelight.

It all is sickening and the politically correct and their cowardly followers will be the first one to burn when all hell breaks lose in Germany and Europe, because they are the perfect victims for empathy depraved religious fanatics that flood Germany at the moment while the dogooders hail them as "multi cultural enrichment". If you ask me - the Germans are f uc kEd. "Mission accomplished", as war criminal and mass murderer Bush would say...

Edited August 27, 2015 by MockingJay

[Linky]

I have watched the coverage of this on 2 - 3 World News channels ... and she vows to allow in 800,000 'refugees' .. I personally think she will get backed down on this ... There are some who are violent and others who are just speaking out - which one would think would be a right to speak out ... But in EU countries - I guess citizens have no such rights ... just the might of the government sword. Just "Accept your culture being debased and accept the loss of jobs and shut up"... seems to be Merkel's policy ...

When tens of thousands protest with non violence and civil disobedience what is she going to do ?

I suppose she will just declare that citizens have no rights...

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. When tens of thousands protest with non violence then come back and tell us. Until then the topic is the protestors violence, and that is wrong.

I have watched the video coverage in great detail. It seems that waving a fist is extreme violence. I predict the minority in these crowds will cut back or stop their violence ... and the angry but non violent ones will predominate....I will post the videos when they appear... Neighboring countries have peaceful protests and they are being ignored too...

If you look at the law and order records of far left anti-racist (pro-Muslim-Immigration) groups versus that of so called far right' groups it is usually the former that account for more arrests and more public order offenses. Though press coverage tends to omit such inconvenient facts.

If the press omits it (not reporting it) then how do you know about it?

[MockingJay]

I have watched the coverage of this on 2 - 3 World News channels ... and she vows to allow in 800,000 'refugees' .. I personally think she will get backed down on this ... There are some who are violent and others who are just speaking out - which one would think would be a right to speak out ... But in EU countries - I guess citizens have no such rights ... just the might of the government sword. Just "Accept your culture being debased and accept the loss of jobs and shut up"... seems to be Merkel's policy ...

When tens of thousands protest with non violence and civil disobedience what is she going to do ?

I suppose she will just declare that citizens have no rights...

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. When tens of thousands protest with non violence then come back and tell us. Until then the topic is the protestors violence, and that is wrong.

Linky, you obviously don't read news... There were tens of thousands of Germans (including Germans with immigration background!) marching peacefully with absolutely no violence on German streets, demonstrating against the islamisation of Europe and pro conservation of western ethics, culture, religions and traditions.

These people came from all walks of life. In an occupier (american) induced media campaign of never before seen magnitude these peaceful protesters were condemned by all politically correct TV channels, all politicians and radio stations as "idiots, stupid pigs, underexposed ones, Nazis, brain dead, deranged, mentally ill, mislead useless subhumans, etc."

Linky, my friend, they were businessmen, grannies from next door, school teachers, laborers, bus drivers, chefs, hoteliers, and a majority of middle class and working class people WALKING!!!!!! WALKING!!!! Do you understand, Linky? They were WALKING!!!!!!!! a day every week, and were trampled and spat at and put in the right wing corner by spineless, America-arse-licking politicians that (on top of it all) were paid by these taxpayers who walked the streets because they simply have had enough... But PEGIDA, as it was called, has been destroyed by the media war. So all is left now are right wingers who might reach the boiling point any minute. Just a few more dead teenagers who were raped and killed by immigrants are needed, and all hell will break lose.

Your turn!

Edited August 27, 2015 by MockingJay

[MockingJay]

^^^ Sometimes violence is necessary. There have been some very effective and necessary revolutions in our history.

Who told us that violence was always wrong? Who are these liars? Who told us to roll over and play dead while we watch countries devolve?

Some things are worth dying for. I guess we forgot that?

Well spoken! What Europe needs is a Revolution. It will come, eventually.

There are times coming we would not even dare to imagine right now, while we sit, comfortably numb, on our sofas watching Oprah, munching crisps and sipping Coke...

Carl Friedrich von Weizsaecker (older brother of former German president Weizsaecker) wrote in his book "Der bedrohte Friede" ( The threatened Peace )...

"Germans wake up and fight back the very minute they realize that they have lost almost everything. But when they wake up, they will in their blind rage destroy everything, even the things that still could have helped them."

Edited August 27, 2015 by MockingJay

[Steely Dan]

^^^ Sometimes violence is necessary. There have been some very effective and necessary revolutions in our history.

Who told us that violence was always wrong? Who are these liars? Who told us to roll over and play dead while we watch countries devolve?

Some things are worth dying for. I guess we forgot that?

Well spoken! What Europe needs is a Revolution. It will come, eventually.

There are times coming we would not even dare to imagine right now, while we sit, comfortably numb, on our sofas watching Oprah, munching crisps and sipping Coke...

Carl Friedrich von Weizsaecker (older brother of former German president Weizsaecker) wrote in his book "Der bedrohte Friede" ( The threatened Peace )...

"Germans wake up and fight back the very minute they realize that they have lost almost everything. But when they wake up, they will in their blind rage destroy everything, even the things that still could have helped them."

This in a nutshell is what the liberal-left and their totalitarian PC beliefs have brought about. Normal law abiding people from all walks of life have been slandered vilified and ignored whilst an immigrant swarm brings with it crime and parallel societies, eating away at the national fabric like termites. Had the moderate voices against immigration been listened to years ago the problem might have been largely avoided. As it is I see as you say great public anger causing a breakdown in law and order turning once peaceful and prosperous nations into an analog of Lebanon during the 70's and 80's. Well done libs and your MSM lackeys.

[jacko45k]

Europe is under a form of invasion.

The problems from this will not be immediate, and I can see no benefit beyond that of the refugees..

These refugees come from countries where humanitarians going the other way, trying to help them, get their heads removed.

Merkel seems to be going against the very people who elected her.

Edited August 27, 2015 by jacko45k

[simple1]

I have watched the coverage of this on 2 - 3 World News channels ... and she vows to allow in 800,000 'refugees' .. I personally think she will get backed down on this ... There are some who are violent and others who are just speaking out - which one would think would be a right to speak out ... But in EU countries - I guess citizens have no such rights ... just the might of the government sword. Just "Accept your culture being debased and accept the loss of jobs and shut up"... seems to be Merkel's policy ...

When tens of thousands protest with non violence and civil disobedience what is she going to do ?

I suppose she will just declare that citizens have no rights...

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. When tens of thousands protest with non violence then come back and tell us. Until then the topic is the protestors violence, and that is wrong.

I have watched the video coverage in great detail. It seems that waving a fist is extreme violence. I predict the minority in these crowds will cut back or stop their violence ... and the angry but non violent ones will predominate....I will post the videos when they appear... Neighboring countries have peaceful protests and they are being ignored too...

If you look at the law and order records of far left anti-racist (pro-Muslim-Immigration) groups versus that of so called ’far right' groups it is usually the former that account for more arrests and more public order offenses. Though press coverage tends to omit such inconvenient facts.

You have conveniently overlooked that far more killings in the past decade, in Western nations, have been carried out by far right members than the left

[h90]

^^^ Sometimes violence is necessary. There have been some very effective and necessary revolutions in our history.

Who told us that violence was always wrong? Who are these liars? Who told us to roll over and play dead while we watch countries devolve?

Some things are worth dying for. I guess we forgot that?

Well spoken! What Europe needs is a Revolution. It will come, eventually.

There are times coming we would not even dare to imagine right now, while we sit, comfortably numb, on our sofas watching Oprah, munching crisps and sipping Coke...

Carl Friedrich von Weizsaecker (older brother of former German president Weizsaecker) wrote in his book "Der bedrohte Friede" ( The threatened Peace )...

"Germans wake up and fight back the very minute they realize that they have lost almost everything. But when they wake up, they will in their blind rage destroy everything, even the things that still could have helped them."

yes they will torture the Germans till the rise up again.....I hope that there is a political change in France first....the shock-waves may change Europe peacefully

[h90]

"Merkel vows 'no tolerance' of anti-refugee violence"

First of all most are illegal immigrants not refugees.

And second where is the "no tolerance" of "refugee" violence....Many of them are pretty violent.

[samran]

Weren't the keyboard warrior crew cheering on Merkel just recently? Seems they have fallen out of love...

[Saradoc1972]

"Merkel vows 'no tolerance' of anti-refugee violence"

First of all most are illegal immigrants not refugees.

And second where is the "no tolerance" of "refugee" violence....Many of them are pretty violent.

This is exactly my line of thinking.

True refugees - yes, Germany will help them. But the burden needs to be shared by other countries of relative wealth, including the poorer or half-developed European countries and North-America. These people will need to be integrated into society as nobody knows how long they are going to stay, how long the Middle East is going to remain a war-zone, if they start working productively it's for the best of everyone. This is done most effectively when the groups stay relatively small and there are enough locals to care for them. Teach them German? You can pluck someone from of the streets to do that, for the first 3 months at least. Well, not exactly everyone, but still..

I did some charity work for some refugees in 2012 teaching German, helping children through school, and I have to say some of them are amazing people you wish to stay in your country. Civilized, motivated. Those two Sri-Lankan children were far more manageable and obedient than what my own cousin send me to get some arithmetic's into...

"Migrants" - sorry, no way. Like in Australia. Where there is a need for them for lack of workers, or because of demographics, there should be laws in place enabling those people to come and stay. And rules. Above all there need to be rules and consequences. What is happening now is a tsunami of people crashing in, a certain proportion of them criminals our western justice systems cannot address sufficiently. German jails probably look like three-star hotels to anyone sleeping rough in the streets of Rabat or southern Somalia.

Germany has a lot of resources and can handle huge numbers of asylum-seekers. But it's getting inundated by people riding on that wave of people, who have no right to come to Germany and spit out the "a-word". From the Balkans, from Morocco, Algeria, some West-African countries. This will prove unsustainable and erode support form civil society. And without hat, there is no way to make it happen.

Muslims are a separate problem, and we're getting some 80% of them among those numbers. I have no tolerance for people trying to cow others into acquiescing them, or else! I suppose that sort of anti-social behaviour is called "being enraged" nowadays.

First of all, we need to remember democracy is about free people having an opinion of their own. It does not do to denigrate a portion of them because they refuse to follow flavour-of-the-month rhetoric. As in: you got worries about (quite potentially faux) asylum seekers abusing your own county's funds to the effect that streets deteriorate, schools are not being renovated to the point that windows cannot be opened anymore, you personally are going to be hit by new austerity measures affecting your own livelihood, and a surge of criminality in your neighbourhood, you then do not join the chorus of "refugees welcome"/"tolerance"

(where tolerance is a good thing, but the word itself implies there is a limit to it) and get called stupid, xenophobe, despicable, and a Nazi. It's really all that takes, nowadays.

Yes, obviously enough there are real Nazis joining those protests and marches. It's a least common denominator for them. What did you expect?

Chancellor Merkel threw one line in the face of those who expressed their legitimated reservations on Germany's refugee- policies on the manifold peaceful PEGIDA-marches saying those people hated the people coming to Germany on the sole reason of them having a different colour of skin and a different religion.

Yes. There are those, and they would have taken part in those marches. But some people now swarming (oh, soray, should not have used that word - Cameron got lambasted over it) Germany are simple criminals and and they do not deserve privileges because they have a different colour of skin and a different religion.

German politics need to get a grip on the issue. Not just sit it out, not just denigrate dissenters.

When the wind blows, some people build walls, some build windmills.

But to get the windmills up and working, i.e. making good use of the influx of possibly quite educated, skilled, and motivated people, there has to be some sort of a design enabling that.