webfact Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Bangkok governor opens road accident reduction campaignBANGKOK, 31 August 2015 (NNT) - Bangkok Governor Sukhumbhand Paribatra presided over a road accident reduction campaign held on Sunday at Taling Chan Floating Market.The campaign aims to raise the awareness of road users in Bangkok about road safety and rules, under the slogan “Slow Driving, No Crosscut, No Red Light Violation”. The campaign is also to realize the 1990 cabinet resolution to build the capital city “The Metropolis of Safety”.According to the governor, Bangkok has been one of the world’s top places with high rate of road accidents. He said most of the accidents were caused by high speed driving and instant crosscuts. However, the situation is improving due to stronger traffic law enforcement, making people safer on road.The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration and relevant authorities are therefore running the campaign at communities, schools, and markets where road traffic are congested. The locations spread over six zones across Bangkok. -- NNT 2015-08-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 "The campaign is also to realize the 1990 cabinet resolution to build the capital city “The Metropolis of Safety”." They just need ANOTHER 25 years & all will be well. I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Stronger traffic law enforcement, really ? Can i ask who is doing it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "He said most of the accidents were caused by high speed driving and instant crosscuts. However, the situation is improving due to stronger traffic law enforcement, making people safer on road." so...he seems to be starting from a position of profound ignorance. doesn't bode well for the future of road safety in Bangkok or Thailand as a whole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRich Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Before everyone gets onto anecdotes of bad driving..... It's not the drivers....its the the authorities. They are blaming the driving to deflect attention from their own incompetence. Every country has bad drivers, it's just in many countries they aren't given the chance to show how stupid they are. For a start, if the authorities built proper roads and traffic systems in Bkk (and elsewhere) the incident figures would plummet. as they don't even seem to have a competent traffic engineer in the entire city maybe that would be a good start people who think that road safety problems in Thailand are down to one single thing aren't looking at the problem intelligently....blaming the "driving" is just a numbskulls, nape-of-the-neck response to a problem that is far more complex, and they have failed to appreciate this......so long as they focus on single issues, there HAS to be a holistic approach to the situation...roads, education etc etc (5 Es) and then and ONLY then will we see any significant improvement in the road safety situation. Edited August 31, 2015 by cumgranosalum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "presided over a road accident reduction campaign held on Sunday at Taling Chan Floating Market." what a perfect venue to showcase the poor driving skills of Thai boat drivers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "The campaign is also to realize the 1990 cabinet resolution to build the capital city The Metropolis of Safety." They just need ANOTHER 25 years & all will be well. I promise. 25 years ? Maybe in 25 years Bangkok will be as Venezia in Italy ... http://www.analyticbridge.com/forum/topics/a-solution-to-rising-oceans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Another load of B/S. Time of year to show they plan (DREAM) to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 And no doubt the police themselves in their driving habits will be the role model for good driving behaviors and adherence to the relevant rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Don't forget the low speed driving and not keeping left on the 80km roads. Especially at night many drive very slow because they can't see jack with those very dark tainted windows. After dark there is no police at all on the roads and they all abuse that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The 1990 campaign ",The Metropolis of Safety," Someone was definitely not taking their medication. Bangkok has to be up there in the top tier for dangerous city's. These clowns are either buffoons or in total denial or perhaps a blend of both. Traffic chaos in Bangkok and Thailand for that mater is a function of poor road quality,design and control, exacerbated by the total absence of enforcement of traffic laws and traffic oversight by one of the most corrupt and inept bodies on this planet, the RTP. Many driver here are from the rural areas where they grow up doing exactly what they want on their local road and it is understandable that these actions continue when they come to big cities as there is, in all reality, NO Enforcement unless PC Somchai is hungry or his geek needs a visit to the beauty parlor. This Bangkok Governor is trying to push butter up a porcupines ass with a red hot knitting needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Like in the movie Metropolis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 How can this campaign work,,5 out of 10 drivers don't know the road rules and the other 5 don't give a truck,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygood Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 add 5 million cars and trafic will be stuck all over bangkok and hence, less people will die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 pleased to report the cop is still riding against the traffic flow on Rama 4, on the wrong side of the road to get to his police box, obviously he never got the memo or cannot read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kannikapor88 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 BKK Gov must be living on the Moon and not in BKK ... This horrible place will never be different thanks to the biggest criminal gang in the World ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 what police, there is no money at soi cowboy or nana plaza during the day time and we know the police do not work at night. just the old dog and pony show!! ha,ha,ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 How about a campaign that aims to raise the awareness of road users in Bangkok about ENFORCEMENT? Start ticketing violations and follow up with impoundments if not paid timely. The RTP could double its force from all the extra revenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springheeled jack Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 a road safety campaign should be aimed at the younger end the motorists of tomorrow trying to educate the older end is just a waste of time and energy most of them are set in their ways . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Before everyone gets onto anecdotes of bad driving..... It's not the drivers....its the the authorities. They are blaming the driving to deflect attention from their own incompetence. Every country has bad drivers, it's just in many countries they aren't given the chance to show how stupid they are. For a start, if the authorities built proper roads and traffic systems in Bkk (and elsewhere) the incident figures would plummet. as they don't even seem to have a competent traffic engineer in the entire city maybe that would be a good start people who think that road safety problems in Thailand are down to one single thing aren't looking at the problem intelligently....blaming the "driving" is just a numbskulls, nape-of-the-neck response to a problem that is far more complex, and they have failed to appreciate this......so long as they focus on single issues, there HAS to be a holistic approach to the situation...roads, education etc etc (5 Es) and then and ONLY then will we see any significant improvement in the road safety situation. You are preaching to the Choir my friend. I'm sure we all agree with you. Why don't you write to your MP? Oops, we have no say in Thailand. Meanwhile, they want to reduce school hours. All we farangs can do is make jokes about promises made 25 years ago. "Metropolis of Safety". Yeah, right. They need to get Batman out of whatever soapy he's been hiding in for the past 25 years & let him fight crime. It's as good of a hope as hoping any blowhard politician will do anything. Edited August 31, 2015 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 There was a Senator awhile back whose idea for traffic was for everyone to drive as fast as possible.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissbie Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Don't forget the low speed driving and not keeping left on the 80km roads. Especially at night many drive very slow because they can't see jack with those very dark tainted windows. After dark there is no police at all on the roads and they all abuse that. These very dark tainted windows are also a problem at day time. If they would be forbidden, there would be far less reckless driving, as behaviour changes with losing anonymity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Before everyone gets onto anecdotes of bad driving..... It's not the drivers....its the the authorities. They are blaming the driving to deflect attention from their own incompetence. Every country has bad drivers, it's just in many countries they aren't given the chance to show how stupid they are. For a start, if the authorities built proper roads and traffic systems in Bkk (and elsewhere) the incident figures would plummet. as they don't even seem to have a competent traffic engineer in the entire city maybe that would be a good start people who think that road safety problems in Thailand are down to one single thing aren't looking at the problem intelligently....blaming the "driving" is just a numbskulls, nape-of-the-neck response to a problem that is far more complex, and they have failed to appreciate this......so long as they focus on single issues, there HAS to be a holistic approach to the situation...roads, education etc etc (5 Es) and then and ONLY then will we see any significant improvement in the road safety situation. The above is well thought out. Now for a starter, having lived and worked in too many countries in the world to name I have discussed the Thai road severe road problems with some traffic policemen familiar with and ditto with some Highway Police. Their answer always the same, “it is out of control and past the point of improving unless major traffic rule and regulation changes are made from above (meaning their “leaders”) all we can do is after the daily-shift we bring back at least the minimum amount of traffic citations issued as required by the office’s SOP”. No different with the CHP, AHP, NHP to name but three, Over the years I have submitted a few traffic rules familiar with when living and working in other countries. Not a one I have ever seen implemented in Thailand. No need to list the so well know reasons why not. Just one example. In heavy road traffic cities (no sense mentioning them all that just opens the door for the wisecrackers) on the major thoroughfares there is no cross traffic turns allowed, meaning in Thailand, NO RIGHT TURNS. Which improves the movement of road traffic by the right-turner not holding up the vehicles behind her/him and not blocking the vehicles traveling in the opposite direction. Yes I know the answer already “many streets in Thailand do not go through because the patriarch’s grave prevents it”. I say dig up the old fart and rebury him in a well-established Chinese cemetery of which there are many in Thailand, and pull the street through. No problem with some old Thai fart because Thais are cremated. Nothing against Chinese, just common sense so severely absent in Thai road traffic management. Thank you for understanding. DrFransBRoosPh.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Window dressing to give the false impression that someone is actually serious about doing something. It allows them to sleep better at night and better accept the stories of road tragedies in next morning's news. They can then sit back and say to convince themselves and others "...well I tried". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathon Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The state of the roads is irrelevant. Any driver should adjust his behaviour to suit the road conditions. One of the problems here is that people have their cars blessed by a monk then think that they are invincible. The remedy lies in training, proper driving tests and enforcement. For example run a red light, first offence 5k fine, second 20k fine, third offence confiscate both the vehicle and the licence. Only this morning I saw three vehicles run a red light, the last one actually overtaking stopped vehicles in front to do so, and that after the clear countdown on the green followed by the usual 3 seconds or so on amber. Of course that needs police who are focussed on enforcement, assisted by cameras where necessary, rather than playing little boys games with their radios and the traffic lights. There was a project for computerised control of traffic lights in the city way back in the mid 90s but never seems to have been implemented. Maybe the signs indicating congestion ahead are the only legacy of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Kubasa Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I believe this is " Campaign " number 145 and it should be a national effort, not just Bangkok where few people die because they can't drive over 10 kilos an hour due to congestion. Actually this congestion doesn't prevent accidents but keeps " Fatalities " down so, maybe, MORE congestion is the answer Thai authorities have been futily searching for ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Don't forget the low speed driving and not keeping left on the 80km roads. Especially at night many drive very slow because they can't see jack with those very dark tainted windows. After dark there is no police at all on the roads and they all abuse that. I beg to differ - In fact there was one recently, but he was killed by the actress pretty . . . I know I know, this is in bad taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny49r Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "Road safety" in Thailand is an oxymoron. Most drivers don't have any sort of license, insurance, driver's education, and really could care less. Many vehicles don't have working lights, tires with actual tread, or brakes that function. Seatbelts? Who needs 'em? Pickup trucks loaded with young kids in the bed weaving along at high speed. No traffic enforcement present. No common sense used. As for road systems; if you were to design the most diabolical way of creating collisions, Thailand's roads would win the prize hands down. Like the old demolition derby's where collision was the objective and not something to be avoided. As for enforcement - what the? Anybody seen a cop lately? I saw one a few days ago - riding down the wrong side of the road with his helmet straps flapping in the breeze! Great role model for proper driving habits! If the gov of BKK really wants to reduce traffic accidents, he should think about hiring police that will enforce laws that already exist. Sadly it will never happen in the land of smiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Assuming the guvnor is Thai he's best off staying off the roads himself and setting a good example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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