Emster23 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 "This law has been brought about because of the number of fatal shootings of students this year" How about radical idea of enforcing existing laws regarding possession of firearms and underage drinking? Oh, but people walk around or ride around (which makes the distance factor so inane, imho), so involves a little walking and effort. Businesses aren't mobile, so can squeeze them at leisure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Why can't Thailand pass a law requiring ID to be shown when purchasing alcohol? No more "300m from school" nonsense, and shops could start selling alcohol between 2PM and 5PM again. It isn't rocket science. You didn't even consider the 2 to 5 ban had even remotely anything to do with under-age, did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolut Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Same story, different day and time....why can't the pissheads go one day without a crutch??? Sober up lads and enjoy the day and your life? Is that really what you see is the issue here? Nothing to do with the inability to clearly define a perimeter nor the ineffectual enforcement of current laws to not sell to underage minors? People who want to drink can still clearly get alcohol each day if they so choose, it's when laws with very vague references are passed and open up near endless opportunities for more corruption that people start to question just who, what and why the people in charge are doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Kubasa Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 And the definition of " Honest Businesses " ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Looks like a not so much a booze licences as a licence for graft? If the graft is not spread around the minions will be unhappy. Everybody has to have a share of the wealth or the power structure will crumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 A step in the right direction arming with the authority and mandate to use common sense, except forgetting there's no ammunition . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Selective enforcement. Now you can extort large fee from existing business within these zones if they don't pay, then easy to shut them down, because of the law. Why not just enforce existing laws, like checking an id for instance. Its slows them down to much. They arrive late at the next "contribution" site. At the end of the day it means a drop in income. That would never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 And the definition of " Honest Businesses " ? Somebody that pays their tea money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Why can't Thailand pass a law requiring ID to be shown when purchasing alcohol? No more "300m from school" nonsense, and shops could start selling alcohol between 2PM and 5PM again. It isn't rocket science. The laws are there, people under 20 are not allowed to buy alcohol. It's the enforement that is not there and won't be there for whatever law they make......unless there is money to be made. Edited October 24, 2015 by recycler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I bet the BIB are rubbing their hands with joy at this....a vague law...how much is that going to cost bar owners to have the BIB look the other way? Really dumb move by Prayrut and Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 So they raided a butch bar. Even the Beatles are drawn as butch. Luckily, the bar was able to show that they had paid royalty fees to display Beatle's intellectual property....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJK Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Stories and media coverage POLICE in CHONBURI are more corrupt than Bin Ladden Why is INSOMNIA open umtil 7am in the morning full of illegal activies Answer ::::: MONEY MONEY MONEY Why do you not get the big fish and why your there check the building permitts LOL JOKERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJK Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 You people are not fooling us hll thgese little things you add are simply decoys to the real issues that really matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 The problem at the moment is that the whole government is being held together by Prayuth. He has magnificent qualities in some respects and is woefully lacking in plenty of others. And I shudder to think about the degree of incompetence of the military people beneath him. Time to push the reforms through to prevent another Parliament of dirty cronies and get out of office before they do too much damage. However I think they are here to stay until 'the event which cannot be named' is over to protect the sovereign status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoadRunner Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 there are other ways to control alcohol use /abuse.....no common sense these people..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 So they raided a butch bar. Even the Beatles are drawn as butch. Love the fact the Beatles are on the American flag,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poyai111 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Any law which is shrouded in ambiguity is unenforcible as it is wide open to misinterpretation. It is the rightful and responsible duty of those who legislate to ensure that there is no possibility of doubt, misrepresentation or uncertainty. This law does not comply with those parameters and is thus illegitimate. Back to the drawing board and draft something that is simple and comprehensible. The suggestion of the use of the universal ID card has the most merit, in my opinion, because surely it achieves quite simply those objectives which are totally obscured by the current legislation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPB65 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I don't live in Thailand anymore so I couldn't care less. I do get tired of all the bleating expats who complain about everything yet still continue to live there. It is a stupid law but whatever, Thailand pass stupid laws all the time and after being enforced for a month things will go back to how they were before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechboy Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I've raised this query before: What happens during the school holidays when an educational establishment has no pupils attending? Surely a ban during these periods would be unfair on the premises involved and should be lifted, especially as such a respite might be a much needed life-line. Blurred thinking. Fag-packet legislation. So many contradictions and loop-holes. Farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Dear People and Tourists, Don't worry that your favourite bars will be closed. All that's needed is the appropriate tea money to be paid. Rubbish,only if they are within 300 metres.If this law is enforced,bars will move the required distance.Always a way in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 leaving authorities to enforce the law at their own discretion. Making Laws, Thai-style. As was pointed out in Thailand Lawyer Blog in August, for many smaller communities across Thailand, this could mean the entire town is a no drinking zone. Are government registered hotels, designated entertainment zones and convenience stores to be exempt under this new Law, or is that at the discretion of the authorities too? Mmm,don't know Thailand too well,do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I see a bottle that looks like whiskey on the table of this pic. If the bar is not alloyed to cell alcohol. Can the people bring there own alcohol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonypace02 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Are Thai seniors susceptible to senility and alzheimers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 They should ban the home made whiskey they sell for 50 baht a bottle, about 50% alcohol, 50% methylated spirits, then wonder why so many people get sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 With all the news about alcohol advertising lately, people have been referring to the battle between Singh Corp and Thai Bev, and how bans may impact their sales. I notice that the ban on advertising, and restriction on sales hasn’t hurt Johnnie Walker in Thailand. Even after losing the Johnnie Walker Golf Classic which moved away from Thailand some years ago, after the alcohol advertising bans first came into effect. In fact, as reported elsewhere, in sales of Johnnie Walker, Thailand is ranked number 1 in the ASEAN market, AND number 3 in the world (behind US and Brazil)! The Thai importer and distributor also expects a 7% sales growth for the product for the fiscal 2015 (which started on 1 July). Keep Walking Johnnie, even if you have to go a bit further to satisfy the new laws! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Dear People and Tourists, Don't worry that your favourite bars will be closed. All that's needed is the appropriate tea money to be paid. Rubbish,only if they are within 300 metres.If this law is enforced,bars will move the required distance.Always a way in this country. I take it you are not aware the legislation effective from yesterday says ' near ' and that isn't defined. The 300 meter distance was dropped ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkg Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Why can't Thailand pass a law requiring ID to be shown when purchasing alcohol? No more "300m from school" nonsense, and shops could start selling alcohol between 2PM and 5PM again. It isn't rocket science. The laws are there, people under 20 are not allowed to buy alcohol. It's the enforement that is not there and won't be there for whatever law they make......unless there is money to be made. Yes, a new law requiring ID checks is needed. I have never seen anyone ID checked in Thailand when buying alcohol. The current law only says: No person may sell an alcoholic beverage to the following: (1) A person under twenty years of age; (https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Alcoholic_Beverage_Control_Act,_BE_2551_%282008%29) It should actually say: It is forbidden to sell alcoholic beverages to a person unless they show identification proving that they are at least 20 years old. This identification must take the form of a Thai National ID card for Thai Nationals, or a passport for foreigners. Edited October 24, 2015 by nkg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optad Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Any law which is shrouded in ambiguity is unenforcible as it is wide open to misinterpretation. It is the rightful and responsible duty of those who legislate to ensure that there is no possibility of doubt, misrepresentation or uncertainty. This law does not comply with those parameters and is thus illegitimate. Back to the drawing board and draft something that is simple and comprehensible. The suggestion of the use of the universal ID card has the most merit, in my opinion, because surely it achieves quite simply those objectives which are totally obscured by the current legislation Care to quote love, or are you just that original everytime you post? M.eh TV, and standards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I bet the BIB are rubbing their hands with joy at this....a vague law...how much is that going to cost bar owners to have the BIB look the other way? Really dumb move by Prayrut and Co Perhaps a move intended to keep the |BIB on side? There are a lot of them, and they are not over enamored of the military, or so one hears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernphil Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Looks like a makeshift drinking corner in someones attic. 4 people and a dog around a table with a cop standing there watching. And is that a real cop or a cardboard cutout. By the way ...nice legs........yes yes yes I knows its a LB . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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