webfact Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Russian jets strike at 472 terrorist targets in SyriaMOSCOW: -- Russian Su-34 bombers have carried out 141 sorties in Syria in the last 48 hours. Defence Ministry spokesman General-Major Igor Konashenkov said the jets struck 472 terrorist targets.They included an oil refinery 50 kilometres south of Raqqa understood to be controlled by the so-called Islamic state and one of the militant group’s main financial sources.The bombing missions also struck targets in Aleppo, Damascus, Idlib, Hama and Homs according to the ministry.France’s flagship aircraft carrier, Charles de Gaulle will shortly take part in air strikes against the IS group said the country’s defence minister Jean-Yves Le Drian.The carrier is already in waters off the Syrian coast. Flights from its decks will shorten the time it takes for French jets to carry out air strikes. The ship can hold up to 40 aircraft and support 100 flights a day. -- (c) Copyright Euronews 2015-11-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Russian airstrikes destroy 1,000 IS oil tankers in SyriaEnglish.news.cnDAMASCUS, Nov. 24 (Xinhua) -- Russian airstrikes over the past five days have destroyed 1,000 tankers of stolen crude oil the Islamic State (IS) group was moving in the countryside of Syria's northern province of al-Raqqa, state news agency SANA reported on Monday.Citing a Syrian military source, SANA said the Russian airstrikes also destroyed oil refineries in the southern countryside of al-Raqqa, the de facto capital of the IS group, and in the northern countryside of the eastern province of Deir al-Zour.The strikes are the latest in an intensified series of Russian air operations against the IS terror group in Syria.Full story: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-11/23/c_134846557.htm-- Xinhua 2015-11-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverado Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 why not make this before ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 why not make this before ??? Ask Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Now that the Russian are burning mad in revenge, it will seem that dawning the Russian passenger's get might have been a big mistake... and why are Russian can do much more damage to IS in a few days of operations than the other flying clowns air forces of several other countries that were trying to do the same for many months now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Now that the Russian are burning mad in revenge, it will seem that dawning the Russian passenger's get might have been a big mistake... and why are Russian can do much more damage to IS in a few days of operations than the other flying clowns air forces of several other countries that were trying to do the same for many months now? Because the coalition in Syria (some 49 countries) were trying to only target ISIS terrorists. Not also rebels opposed to Assad. It's been widely reported a majority of Russia's strikes are NOT against ISIS. Even Russia admits this. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/10/01/Putin-Spox-Admits-ISIS-Not-Russia-s-Only-Target-Syria And thus the extremely high number of civilian causalities. Something the coalition was trying to avoid. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/syria-monitoring-groups-russian-air-strikes-kill-400-civilians-151122063024984.html Russian air strikes 'killed over 400 Syrian civilians' At least 97 children among casualties of military operations which began in late September, two monitoring groups say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Troll post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 When this is all over and the dust settles then someone is going to have to rebuild all this destroyed infrastructure. It will be interesting to see if some of those dropping bombs indiscriminately will be there to rebuild what they have destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 why not make this before ??? Ask Obama America has been paying the bills in blood and money to save other countries butts since the first world war. It is time other countries stood up for themselves. It is not Americas responsibility to take care of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 why not make this before ??? Ask Obama Because the U.S. has felt constrained by strict orders not to cause civilian casualties. As soon as this happens, you people will be the first to complain about the evil U.S. military-industrial complex oppressing the poor innocent Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Now that the Russian are burning mad in revenge, it will seem that dawning the Russian passenger's get might have been a big mistake... and why are Russian can do much more damage to IS in a few days of operations than the other flying clowns air forces of several other countries that were trying to do the same for many months now? What are you, a 12-year-old Russian who watches that RT channel so it makes you feel good? I think the US Air Force has more than proven itself for the past 75 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It is with much regret that, in order to destroy ISIS, civilians will be killed. As is the case in all human conflicts. I am sure that's the current mantra being disseminated by the Western governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It does two things here.Destroying the oil fields in the area will increase the price of oil in Russia,Saudi Arabia,North America,and South America thus raising their respective economy at home and costing Isis it's income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Now that the Russian are burning mad in revenge, it will seem that dawning the Russian passenger's get might have been a big mistake... and why are Russian can do much more damage to IS in a few days of operations than the other flying clowns air forces of several other countries that were trying to do the same for many months now? Because Russia wants payback. The rest of the West are more interested discussing if Assad is to stay or not. He is the least of the problems. Remove ISIS then talk about Assad. the West has become just mouths and no balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It does two things here.Destroying the oil fields in the area will increase the price of oil in Russia,Saudi Arabia,North America,and South America thus raising their respective economy at home and costing Isis it's income. Interesting perspective. Russia bombs oil fields and the price of their oil goes up. LOL Never thought of it that way. But makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It does two things here.Destroying the oil fields in the area will increase the price of oil in Russia,Saudi Arabia,North America,and South America thus raising their respective economy at home and costing Isis it's income. Interesting perspective. Russia bombs oil fields and the price of their oil goes up. LOL Never thought of it that way. But makes perfect sense. Blow it all up in Iraq as well. Oil prices will increase then and make everyone happy - except the motorist of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky54 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Fortunately the old human shield/ shroud waving ploy is not going to work on the Russians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock09 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 When this is all over and the dust settles then someone is going to have to rebuild all this destroyed infrastructure. It will be interesting to see if some of those dropping bombs indiscriminately will be there to rebuild what they have destroyed. Somehow, I get the impression that you don't understand the US role in geo-politics. In all cases the US has been looking after its own self interest. Certainly US companies like Brown and Root will be to the fore when rebuilding commences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 When this is all over and the dust settles then someone is going to have to rebuild all this destroyed infrastructure. It will be interesting to see if some of those dropping bombs indiscriminately will be there to rebuild what they have destroyed. Somehow, I get the impression that you don't understand the US role in geo-politics. In all cases the US has been looking after its own self interest. Certainly US companies like Brown and Root will be to the fore when rebuilding commences. And how is this different from any other country??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) why not make this before ??? Ask Obama Ask Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, and all the other defense contractors that have both parties in their pockets. One poster stated the possibility that the Russians are doing it to raise oil prices--which is unlikely. America is now the #1 oil producing nation in the world. Syrian oil is still flowing, just not from ISIL-controlled wells funding their slimy pockets, and as was true for quite some time, and that Assad oil has not been flowing into the open markets of the West. Edited November 24, 2015 by FangFerang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 There is a traffic jam on the high seas at present due to the number of oil tankers (big boats to some) already filled and looking to offload their valuable cargo. The Russian claim to destroying 1000+_ tankers (Lorries to some) in past few days in most cases have a max capacity load of less than 100 bbl. The pipelines are the normal conductor for transport of oil on land /and sea from production fields (several to many wells) to refinery facilities. Most pipelines and even individual oil wells, have safety devices built in so if the line is cut, ruptured, damaged, the safety device shuts and oil flow stops. I guess any report of hits on ISIS is welcomed, but do not expect any real damage to have taken place as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The US has also been involved in taking out oil trucks: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/u-s-destroys-280-isis-oil-trucks-syrian-city-deir-n468126 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 When this is all over and the dust settles then someone is going to have to rebuild all this destroyed infrastructure. It will be interesting to see if some of those dropping bombs indiscriminately will be there to rebuild what they have destroyed. yes, that the classic Pax Americana modus operandi. a missed opportunity for the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 When this is all over and the dust settles then someone is going to have to rebuild all this destroyed infrastructure. It will be interesting to see if some of those dropping bombs indiscriminately will be there to rebuild what they have destroyed. Somehow, I get the impression that you don't understand the US role in geo-politics. In all cases the US has been looking after its own self interest. Certainly US companies like Brown and Root will be to the fore when rebuilding commences. They won't... Assad will reward his saviors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Now that the Russian are burning mad in revenge, it will seem that dawning the Russian passenger's get might have been a big mistake... and why are Russian can do much more damage to IS in a few days of operations than the other flying clowns air forces of several other countries that were trying to do the same for many months now? Because the coalition in Syria (some 49 countries) were trying to only target ISIS terrorists. Not also rebels opposed to Assad. It's been widely reported a majority of Russia's strikes are NOT against ISIS. Even Russia admits this. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/10/01/Putin-Spox-Admits-ISIS-Not-Russia-s-Only-Target-Syria And thus the extremely high number of civilian causalities. Something the coalition was trying to avoid. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/syria-monitoring-groups-russian-air-strikes-kill-400-civilians-151122063024984.html Russian air strikes 'killed over 400 Syrian civilians' At least 97 children among casualties of military operations which began in late September, two monitoring groups say. I hold the belief that a large part of non-ISIS rebel forces are composed of islamists too. Just they are non-ISIS islamists. Al-Qaeda and ISIS are enemies. Maybe some are even non-violent islamists. Good riddance anyway. And how many of these so-called civilians killed in the airstrikes were islamists? IMO, in that region it is not enough to not wear neither uniform nor weapon to be considered a "civilian". Edited November 24, 2015 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The US has also been involved in taking out oil trucks: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/u-s-destroys-280-isis-oil-trucks-syrian-city-deir-n468126 Yes I read that one. I wonder who will be the first to target those buying oil from ISIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) The US has also been involved in taking out oil trucks: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/u-s-destroys-280-isis-oil-trucks-syrian-city-deir-n468126 Yes I read that one. I wonder who will be the first to target those buying oil from ISIS. Putin asked about who was buying oil from ISIS, of course he knew the answer: http://sachtimes.com/en/world/1699-turkish-opposition-parties-accuse-president-erdo%C4%9Fan%E2%80%99s-son-of-smuggling-isis%E2%80%99-crude-oil Bilal Erdogan is the son of President Erdogan of Turkey, the key US/NATO ally in the region. I could not find a single major Western news outlet reporting on this, neither to confirm neither to deny. Edited November 24, 2015 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Now that the Russian are burning mad in revenge, it will seem that dawning the Russian passenger's get might have been a big mistake... and why are Russian can do much more damage to IS in a few days of operations than the other flying clowns air forces of several other countries that were trying to do the same for many months now? Because the coalition in Syria (some 49 countries) were trying to only target ISIS terrorists. Not also rebels opposed to Assad. It's been widely reported a majority of Russia's strikes are NOT against ISIS. Even Russia admits this. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/10/01/Putin-Spox-Admits-ISIS-Not-Russia-s-Only-Target-Syria And thus the extremely high number of civilian causalities. Something the coalition was trying to avoid. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/syria-monitoring-groups-russian-air-strikes-kill-400-civilians-151122063024984.html Russian air strikes 'killed over 400 Syrian civilians' At least 97 children among casualties of military operations which began in late September, two monitoring groups say. Say what you will about Russia, they have been a much more effective against ISIS that the US 'effort' was. The US wanted ISIS to weaken Assad and so they have let them off very easy indeed. On top of that the Americans bought ISIS lots and lots of white Toyotas, and there is a wonderful picture of a long convoy of white Toyotas with ISIS flags driving down a desert road being escorted by a US Apache attack helicopter (not doing any attacking). Of course you won;t see this in the supine Western excuse for a media. Russia has bombed more ISIS targets in 2 months that the US has done in 18 months. The Syrian army is chasing ISIS out of Aleppo, Homs and Latakia....ISIS is on the run. Now have Russia bombed FSA, of course they have they are allies of Assad, invited in to save Assad's regime, which happens to be the legitimate ruling government of Syria according to the UN, so it is only right and proper and these Takfiri are being chased out of key positions near the Turkish border. There is no evidence at all that Russian airstrikes have killed civilians...the SHRO is a completely discredited outfit, run out of an exiles flat in Coventry. ook we have real evidence of US strikes killing civilians, wedding parties, hospitals, and zero evidence against Russia. I think we have to start questioning our news sources because you cannot believe a word coming out of the Pentagon or the UK government, and the western media don't show any other view. 'Moderate rebels' ate a soldier's liver and lungs...and you want to arm him with modern weapons. The west needs to drop its hypocrisy and go after the funders of this debacle of a war...Saudi, Qatar and yes the US as well. Edited November 24, 2015 by Scott Post inside quote box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Interesting article. Would be nice to get the info vetted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 why not make this before ??? Ask Obama perhaps because Congress has hung Obama out to dry? They have admitted to not passing any bills regarding this so that they cannot be held responsible. They expect Obama to do it all, take all the risk, then take all the heat when there is collateral damage. easy to blame Obama for this and everything else that is wrong with the US right now but the truth is, Congress is the problem, not the President!!! Whenever Obama makes a powerful move of any kind FOX news and Republican cronies always compare him to Hitler. Then in the same breath they praise Putin for being so strong even though he is a tyrannical dictator. Bunch of hypocrites with selective memories!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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