Thai at Heart Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Could u imagine the carnage in court if they actually allowed a foreign law firm to work? The amount of public shaming that would go on and opening up of corruption to the world would be so obvious they dare not do it. Imagine actually having to hold cases and make reasonable judgments instead of going to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 There are quite a number of 1/:2 Thai 1/2 Farang children now being highly educated in International schools,hopefully their parents are raising them correctly,ensuring that they have farangs ethics. If some of these children were then to enter the Thai ( so- called ) legal profession, maybe they could make a difference, but for how long would they be allowed to practice before they were bumped off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailanddogerator Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Scare that someone with a brain shows you how to correctly do your work ? <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I think the Thai lawyer would win every time unless, the foreign lawyer is 100% proficient in Thai language including legal jargon and has studied Thai law extensively. All cases in Thailand will be conducted in Thai language according to Thai law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) What are they worried about? Must have seen Ted in action and got scared.. youtu.be/U7-YheyIIiE Edited December 2, 2015 by wow64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 " take over"? If that is not a typo or mis quote I can understand the fear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli42 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 They seem so certain of their own incompetence that it's alarming (the profession taken over by foreigners). The language barrier for foreigners is not inconsequential yet they fear opening the profession. In the next breath they compare themselves to hairdressers. When professionals have this low an opinion of themselves, I hope I never need their services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbymack Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Foreigners cannot practice here in Thailand. It is a restricted profession and although Foreign Lawyers are here (I was one for more than 2 years) they are classified as "managers" on the work permit. The bigger international firms have mainly Thai lawyers anyway and only the odd foreigner as an "advisor". The Thai lawyers are scared because they are incompetent, they have no ethics, are unable to think outside the box, client care is poor and their knowledge of general legal principles is pathetic. I got out. The pay is also not sustainable with less than THB 50,000 a month. When Thailand has to comply with AEC in Asean and some of the ideas about free movement of professionals they will be stuck as they will be up against lawyers from Malaysia and Singapore who are infinitely superior. The only thing that Thailand can possibly do is say that all foreign lawyers would have to take the Thai bar exams in Thai which will then be a barrier to entry. However, the language of the AEC of Asean is English so that may be a problem for Thailand in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I suggest they pursue this through the courts rather than by a rally (which I thought was currently illegal) The experience of waiting a decade or two for a judgement on the case should be a wake up call for the entire profession. If you allow foreign lawyers, what next? foreign judges? foreign generals? who knows where it would stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siamwhiteelephant Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Oh, I see. Xenophobia aloud allowed! So, there’s no contradiction in having Thai lawyers practice law in Western countries, and they do? The Thai law system is great, full of honest lawyers and many an expat 'farang' happily goes their merry way after having placed their colossal scam victim, corruption or legal problem in its hands!!! - not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatbrit Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Western medical doctors can practise in Thailand providing they can pass the Thai medical examinations. The same criteria should applied to the Legal profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What are they afraid of? Getting sued by a foreign lawyer... Or maybe having to tell the truth . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The subject of the law should be free for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelplatoon Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Yes, we shouldn't allow this. Just THINK what could happen, you might even get some righteous, law abiding, knowledgeable and affordable lawyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy360 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The lone purpose of an attorney is to protect his client from members of his own profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petchou Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Actually this is not specific to Thailand. Any foreign lawyer trying to practice in USA, Canada etc... Will not be allowed, he must eventually go back to law school, get exams to join lawyers association etc.... Which may take him years, plus paying huge money to join the association to be able to practice. Same thing apply to engineers, physicians, dentists etc... All these jobs they try to protect their interests by putting barriers to foreigners to practice. Not even in the least similar. All of those "barriers" are there to make sure they can practice the laws of those particular countries. In Thailand you could have the entire code memorized and 30 years experience and still not be allowed to practice. This is fallacious statement. There were tens of foreigners practising in law firms in Thailand. Just do a little research and you will find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petchou Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I am surprised why people are shocked by such thing. All western countries don't allow foreigners access to jobs. Except if you are legally permanent resident or immigrant and you still have to fill the requirements for said jobs. Most of the time difficult ones. To any Westerner, try to get legally a job in states and Canada when you are not permanent resident. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Actually this is not specific to Thailand. Any foreign lawyer trying to practice in USA, Canada etc... Will not be allowed, he must eventually go back to law school, get exams to join lawyers association etc.... Which may take him years, plus paying huge money to join the association to be able to practice. Same thing apply to engineers, physicians, dentists etc... All these jobs they try to protect their interests by putting barriers to foreigners to practice. Not even in the least similar. All of those "barriers" are there to make sure they can practice the laws of those particular countries. In Thailand you could have the entire code memorized and 30 years experience and still not be allowed to practice. This is fallacious statement. There were tens of foreigners practising in law firms in Thailand. Just do a little research and you will find out. "Exactly"do a little research and you will soon discover that there are very few foreigners attached to law firms in Thailand. They cannot represent their clients in the actual courts, even thou they may be able to speak Thai, have far more knowledge than the Thai ( so called ) lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 What are they afraid of? Let's see: competence, ethical code of behavior, competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisrazz Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I wonder what nice coloured shirts they'll be wearing at their rally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 What are they afraid of? Thai Visa lawyers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petchou Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Actually this is not specific to Thailand. Any foreign lawyer trying to practice in USA, Canada etc... Will not be allowed, he must eventually go back to law school, get exams to join lawyers association etc.... Which may take him years, plus paying huge money to join the association to be able to practice. Same thing apply to engineers, physicians, dentists etc... All these jobs they try to protect their interests by putting barriers to foreigners to practice. Not even in the least similar. All of those "barriers" are there to make sure they can practice the laws of those particular countries. In Thailand you could have the entire code memorized and 30 years experience and still not be allowed to practice. This is fallacious statement. There were tens of foreigners practising in law firms in Thailand. Just do a little research and you will find out."Exactly"do a little research and you will soon discover that there are very few foreigners attached to law firms in Thailand. They cannot represent their clients in the actual courts, even thou they may be able to speak Thai, have far more knowledge than the Thai ( so called ) lawyer. I am not sure of what you state, the chances they are high they don't master Thai enough to be defending their clients. It's not about speaking Thai to bargirls, it's about legal nuances etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Actually this is not specific to Thailand.Any foreign lawyer trying to practice in USA, Canada etc... Will not be allowed, he must eventually go back to law school, get exams to join lawyers association etc.... Which may take him years, plus paying huge money to join the association to be able to practice. Same thing apply to engineers, physicians, dentists etc... All these jobs they try to protect their interests by putting barriers to foreigners to practice. Not even in the least similar. All of those "barriers" are there to make sure they can practice the laws of those particular countries. In Thailand you could have the entire code memorized and 30 years experience and still not be allowed to practice. This is fallacious statement. There were tens of foreigners practising in law firms in Thailand. Just do a little research and you will find out."Exactly"do a little research and you will soon discover that there are very few foreigners attached to law firms in Thailand. They cannot represent their clients in the actual courts, even thou they may be able to speak Thai, have far more knowledge than the Thai ( so called ) lawyer. I am not sure of what you state, the chances they are high they don't master Thai enough to be defending their clients. It's not about speaking Thai to bargirls, it's about legal nuances etc... They aren't allowed to act as lawyers. They can technically advise, but cannot hold the position of lawyer or directly approach the court. It is a protected profession because the Thai legal system is a paragon of world class legal ability and foreigners would obviously destroy it's stellar reputation for world class efficiency, even handedness and speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 What are they afraid of? ..............Farang lawyers do corruption better than Thai lawyers..................... ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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