webfact Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Army warns elements who attempt to cause public disorder or confusionBANGKOK: -- People who attempt to stir up unrest, public disorder or public confusion have been warned that they will be dealt with in accordance with the law by the military.Army spokesman Colonel Winthai Suvaree said Army Commander-in-Chief General Theerachai Nakvanich in his capacity as the peace-keeping commander had attached great importance to maintaining peace and order in the country.The colonel warned individuals or group of people who attempt to incite unrest or stir up public confusion to drop their plan otherwise they would be dealt with by the military.“We believe the society is fully aware of what is going on and who are doing anything,” he said apparently referring to the planned visit to the Rajabhakti Park by red-shirt leaders Jatuporn Promphan and Natthawut Saikua which the military has considered as politically motivated.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/army-warns-elements-who-attempt-to-cause-public-disorder-or-confusion -- Thai PBS 2015-12-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Causing public confusion ? He's not actually warning his own bosses is he ? Saddam supposedly said the law was whatever he wrote on a piece of paper, sound familiar ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Stop causing confusion. That's our job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 so the army and the junta can't get their story straight on how to cover up the corruption at the 7 statues park, and now they want to prosecute other people who cause confusion... The clown car rolls on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Jesus, look in the mirror pal. The regime (can I call it that I wonder) is falling apart. The attempted censorship of all and sundry (excluding things that directly support their agenda aside) I suspect will be their downfall. Seems very clearly to be a "do as I say, not as I do" kinda situation, I wonder how long it'll last until people either wake up, or make a stand.Very sad to see how this regime have made such a bulls ear of everything but still deludedly think everyone is onside, incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) "People who attempt to stir up unrest, public disorder or public confusion have been warned that they will be dealt with in accordance with the law by the military." "The police are not here to create disorder, they're here to preserve disorder." - Richard J. Daley Edited December 1, 2015 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellacissa Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Time to round up every traffic sign maker in the Kingdom. Creating confusion seems to be their very intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Sixty-nine million Thais now under army rule. Everyone better be happy about that (and that's an order)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) confuse you more Gen Prawit says Jatuporn and Natthawut are not banned from visiting Rajabhakti Park http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/gen-prawit-says-jatuporn-and-natthawut-are-not-banned-from-visiting-rajabhakti-park Abused too easily and often, lese majeste law is indefensible http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Abused-too-easily-and-often-lese-majeste-law-is-in-30274025.html Edited December 2, 2015 by londonthai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the first 12 months of the NCPO there was little criticism and even adversaries bided their time and kept relatively quiet. We are now nearly 20 months into the NCPO and little has happened in terms of reform, so obviously it is becoming easier and easier to criticize. Not only has no reformed happened, but seemingly there does not even seem to be an attempt to reform, and the same old corruption even within the NCPO ranks seems to be ongoing. They were given time, nothing happened, the country seems to be moving backwards on a number of fronts, so if anything they only have themselves to blame. If there were genuine and visible attempts to carry out the promised reform, and even some minor victories, then i think they would be on far less tenuous ground. As it happens there complete inability to do anything, only has opened themselves up for more and more critics especially when they get marred in the very same things that they came riding to power on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Someone should point the army in the direction of the US embassy. There was a gathering of more than 5 people outside it's gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the first 12 months of the NCPO there was little criticism and even adversaries bided their time and kept relatively quiet. We are now nearly 20 months into the NCPO and little has happened in terms of reform, so obviously it is becoming easier and easier to criticize. Not only has no reformed happened, but seemingly there does not even seem to be an attempt to reform, and the same old corruption even within the NCPO ranks seems to be ongoing. They were given time, nothing happened, the country seems to be moving backwards on a number of fronts, so if anything they only have themselves to blame. If there were genuine and visible attempts to carry out the promised reform, and even some minor victories, then i think they would be on far less tenuous ground. As it happens there complete inability to do anything, only has opened themselves up for more and more critics especially when they get marred in the very same things that they came riding to power on. Yeah, I was full of hope back then. I thought some altruistic leader would sort things. I'm not totally anti yet, because he does have some particularly tricky hurdles to jump and certainly needs time, but I'm certainly starting to get disillusioned. I'll maintain patience for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Well, I'm confused. Clampdown on corruption? Look no further than the park scams misinformation and rank-closing. Run the economy better? They can't even sort their national airline out, the fishing industry slaving issue or air safety standards. Also they've embraced the last lot's populist policies and and dished out amnesties all round. Reconciliation? Two guys arrested going to a park, whilst an unruly mob protests outside a major embassy with zero consequences. I wonder when enough will be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Well, I'm confused. Clampdown on corruption? Look no further than the park scams misinformation and rank-closing. Run the economy better? They can't even sort their national airline out, the fishing industry slaving issue or air safety standards. Also they've embraced the last lot's populist policies and and dished out amnesties all round. Reconciliation? Two guys arrested going to a park, whilst an unruly mob protests outside a major embassy with zero consequences. I wonder when enough will be enough. Its quite strange, but the think that i find most difficult to swallow is the hypocrisy. The things you mention above in isolation are really nothing events, but it just seems everything they do they seem to have two standards for. Gathering to protest against the US comments, seemingly no problem, two political agitators doing something fairly innocuous but obviously planned are detained. If things Jat & Natt do are deemed political, it would seem to most people anything the monk does should also seemingly be linked to politics, but no. Clampdown on corruption, lots of rhetoric etc, but in the one major incident they have, they simply do everything wrong. Try to avoid it, try and deflect it etc etc. Just complete failure. They are just making a mess of handling so many isolated issues, it just magnifies the hypocrisy and selective enforcement of laws/regulations. Everything they 'claimed' they wanted to fix, just seems to be getting exacerbated and worse. Criticize politicians for trying to involve the highest Institution in politics, when they are simply the worst for this. The list goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoristheBlade Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Dads army MKII ...Don't Panic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the first 12 months of the NCPO there was little criticism and even adversaries bided their time and kept relatively quiet. We are now nearly 20 months into the NCPO and little has happened in terms of reform, so obviously it is becoming easier and easier to criticize. Not only has no reformed happened, but seemingly there does not even seem to be an attempt to reform, and the same old corruption even within the NCPO ranks seems to be ongoing. They were given time, nothing happened, the country seems to be moving backwards on a number of fronts, so if anything they only have themselves to blame. If there were genuine and visible attempts to carry out the promised reform, and even some minor victories, then i think they would be on far less tenuous ground. As it happens there complete inability to do anything, only has opened themselves up for more and more critics especially when they get marred in the very same things that they came riding to power on. Well, I for one, have run out of patience with this bunch of clowns. At first I was optomistic and hopefull. But now no, it is just same same, but different (faces). For me, the turning point was Koh Tao. The PM had the opportunity to sort out the police, but didn't. Worse, he actually commended them. That was when I knew nothing would ever change in this country. The big question now is, how much longer will the Thai people put up with this BS before rising up en mass against these tyrants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Time to round up every traffic sign maker in the Kingdom. Creating confusion seems to be their very intent. They get confused about many things, bless their hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the first 12 months of the NCPO there was little criticism and even adversaries bided their time and kept relatively quiet. We are now nearly 20 months into the NCPO and little has happened in terms of reform, so obviously it is becoming easier and easier to criticize. Not only has no reformed happened, but seemingly there does not even seem to be an attempt to reform, and the same old corruption even within the NCPO ranks seems to be ongoing. They were given time, nothing happened, the country seems to be moving backwards on a number of fronts, so if anything they only have themselves to blame. If there were genuine and visible attempts to carry out the promised reform, and even some minor victories, then i think they would be on far less tenuous ground. As it happens there complete inability to do anything, only has opened themselves up for more and more critics especially when they get marred in the very same things that they came riding to power on. Well, I for one, have run out of patience with this bunch of clowns. At first I was optomistic and hopefull. But now no, it is just same same, but different (faces). For me, the turning point was Koh Tao. The PM had the opportunity to sort out the police, but didn't. Worse, he actually commended them. That was when I knew nothing would ever change in this country. The big question now is, how much longer will the Thai people put up with this BS before rising up en mass against these tyrants? I'd give it 5 years, maybe 10 before another thug takes over, with the populace "en masse" backing him/her (maybe a katoey next time?). The folks were doing exactly what you mention, till the tanks & M16's appeared last year. Oh yeah, I'm not, by any means taking sides. I'm neither red nor yellow. Just a pasty white farang of no consequence in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpho Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Orwellian...an adjective describing the situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free and open society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the first 12 months of the NCPO there was little criticism and even adversaries bided their time and kept relatively quiet. We are now nearly 20 months into the NCPO and little has happened in terms of reform, so obviously it is becoming easier and easier to criticize. Not only has no reformed happened, but seemingly there does not even seem to be an attempt to reform, and the same old corruption even within the NCPO ranks seems to be ongoing. They were given time, nothing happened, the country seems to be moving backwards on a number of fronts, so if anything they only have themselves to blame. If there were genuine and visible attempts to carry out the promised reform, and even some minor victories, then i think they would be on far less tenuous ground. As it happens there complete inability to do anything, only has opened themselves up for more and more critics especially when they get marred in the very same things that they came riding to power on. Well, I for one, have run out of patience with this bunch of clowns. At first I was optomistic and hopefull. But now no, it is just same same, but different (faces). For me, the turning point was Koh Tao. The PM had the opportunity to sort out the police, but didn't. Worse, he actually commended them. That was when I knew nothing would ever change in this country. The big question now is, how much longer will the Thai people put up with this BS before rising up en mass against these tyrants? The inevitable drought next year will be the snapping point I suspect. when people don't even have the means to make a living for themselves, while still being squeezed by a still yet shrinking economy, people will be forced to make their voices heard I would have thought. The micro managing of basically non events at the expense of actively solving huge problems is going to bite this regime in the ass. And the fallout I think will be pretty darn ugly. Very sad, a lot of decent working class Thais stand to fall considerably while the wealthy ones will continue to look on with bemusement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the first 12 months of the NCPO there was little criticism and even adversaries bided their time and kept relatively quiet. We are now nearly 20 months into the NCPO and little has happened in terms of reform, so obviously it is becoming easier and easier to criticize. Not only has no reformed happened, but seemingly there does not even seem to be an attempt to reform, and the same old corruption even within the NCPO ranks seems to be ongoing. They were given time, nothing happened, the country seems to be moving backwards on a number of fronts, so if anything they only have themselves to blame. If there were genuine and visible attempts to carry out the promised reform, and even some minor victories, then i think they would be on far less tenuous ground. As it happens there complete inability to do anything, only has opened themselves up for more and more critics especially when they get marred in the very same things that they came riding to power on. Well, I for one, have run out of patience with this bunch of clowns. At first I was optomistic and hopefull. But now no, it is just same same, but different (faces). For me, the turning point was Koh Tao. The PM had the opportunity to sort out the police, but didn't. Worse, he actually commended them. That was when I knew nothing would ever change in this country. The big question now is, how much longer will the Thai people put up with this BS before rising up en mass against these tyrants? Depends on how long the middle and upper class will support the junta. They are the biggest supporter of the junta whether in the cyper space or on the grounds. They are now hurting in their wallets and see the park corruption which will influence their position. The economy malaise has hit the wealthy elites and they have big influence together with the Amart whether to dump the junta when their interests and plans are being threatened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Now they can lock up anyone whom they deem to be 'causing confusion'. Sinister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Orwellian...an adjective describing the situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free and open society. Somebody get Red Adair on the phone, it looks like he'll be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Army spokesman Colonel Winthai Suvaree. He's such a lovely boy, with a lovely job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Well, I'm confused. Clampdown on corruption? Look no further than the park scams misinformation and rank-closing. Run the economy better? They can't even sort their national airline out, the fishing industry slaving issue or air safety standards. Also they've embraced the last lot's populist policies and and dished out amnesties all round. Reconciliation? Two guys arrested going to a park, whilst an unruly mob protests outside a major embassy with zero consequences. I wonder when enough will be enough. Its quite strange, but the think that i find most difficult to swallow is the hypocrisy. The things you mention above in isolation are really nothing events, but it just seems everything they do they seem to have two standards for. Gathering to protest against the US comments, seemingly no problem, two political agitators doing something fairly innocuous but obviously planned are detained. If things Jat & Natt do are deemed political, it would seem to most people anything the monk does should also seemingly be linked to politics, but no. Clampdown on corruption, lots of rhetoric etc, but in the one major incident they have, they simply do everything wrong. Try to avoid it, try and deflect it etc etc. Just complete failure. They are just making a mess of handling so many isolated issues, it just magnifies the hypocrisy and selective enforcement of laws/regulations. Everything they 'claimed' they wanted to fix, just seems to be getting exacerbated and worse. Criticize politicians for trying to involve the highest Institution in politics, when they are simply the worst for this. The list goes on and on. guys, this is a military junta in Thailand. They came to power for their own goals. NONE of the excuses for taking power were real - stopping a 'civil war', fixing corruption, unnamed 'reforms' - ALL just smoke and mirrors. Eventually smoke drifts away and then it's time to look in the mirror. 20 months after the coup... we just have a mirror and desperate attempts at generating more smoke... Poor Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Well, I'm confused. Clampdown on corruption? Look no further than the park scams misinformation and rank-closing. Run the economy better? They can't even sort their national airline out, the fishing industry slaving issue or air safety standards. Also they've embraced the last lot's populist policies and and dished out amnesties all round. Reconciliation? Two guys arrested going to a park, whilst an unruly mob protests outside a major embassy with zero consequences. I wonder when enough will be enough. Its quite strange, but the think that i find most difficult to swallow is the hypocrisy. The things you mention above in isolation are really nothing events, but it just seems everything they do they seem to have two standards for. Gathering to protest against the US comments, seemingly no problem, two political agitators doing something fairly innocuous but obviously planned are detained. If things Jat & Natt do are deemed political, it would seem to most people anything the monk does should also seemingly be linked to politics, but no. Clampdown on corruption, lots of rhetoric etc, but in the one major incident they have, they simply do everything wrong. Try to avoid it, try and deflect it etc etc. Just complete failure. They are just making a mess of handling so many isolated issues, it just magnifies the hypocrisy and selective enforcement of laws/regulations. Everything they 'claimed' they wanted to fix, just seems to be getting exacerbated and worse. Criticize politicians for trying to involve the highest Institution in politics, when they are simply the worst for this. The list goes on and on. guys, this is a military junta in Thailand. They came to power for their own goals. NONE of the excuses for taking power were real - stopping a 'civil war', fixing corruption, unnamed 'reforms' - ALL just smoke and mirrors. Eventually smoke drifts away and then it's time to look in the mirror. 20 months after the coup... we just have a mirror and desperate attempts at generating more smoke... Poor Thailand... Yes, YES, and yes. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 so the army and the junta can't get their story straight on how to cover up the corruption at the 7 statues park, and now they want to prosecute other people who cause confusion... The clown car rolls on... This is why they will allow Farang Lawyers. The language confusion will make the 7 Statues problem stay tied up for 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan7444 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 so the army and the junta can't get their story straight on how to cover up the corruption at the 7 statues park, and now they want to prosecute other people who cause confusion... The clown car rolls on... So as a warning, if anyone on TV dares to confuse me or others with their comments, they should be reported to the Army??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 For the first 12 months of the NCPO there was little criticism and even adversaries bided their time and kept relatively quiet. We are now nearly 20 months into the NCPO and little has happened in terms of reform, so obviously it is becoming easier and easier to criticize. Not only has no reformed happened, but seemingly there does not even seem to be an attempt to reform, and the same old corruption even within the NCPO ranks seems to be ongoing.[/size] [/size] They were given time, nothing happened, the country seems to be moving backwards on a number of fronts, so if anything they only have themselves to blame.[/size] [/size] If there were genuine and visible attempts to carry out the promised reform, and even some minor victories, then i think they would be on far less tenuous ground.[/size] [/size] As it happens there complete inability to do anything, only has opened themselves up for more and more critics especially when they get marred in the very same things that they came riding to power on.[/size] Well, I for one, have run out of patience with this bunch of clowns. At first I was optomistic and hopefull. But now no, it is just same same, but different (faces). For me, the turning point was Koh Tao. The PM had the opportunity to sort out the police, but didn't. Worse, he actually commended them. That was when I knew nothing would ever change in this country. The big question now is, how much longer will the Thai people put up with this BS before rising up en mass against these tyrants? The inevitable drought next year will be the snapping point I suspect. when people don't even have the means to make a living for themselves, while still being squeezed by a still yet shrinking economy, people will be forced to make their voices heard I would have thought. The micro managing of basically non events at the expense of actively solving huge problems is going to bite this regime in the ass. And the fallout I think will be pretty darn ugly. Very sad, a lot of decent working class Thais stand to fall considerably while the wealthy ones will continue to look on with bemusement Don't look now but this is happening in North America and other parts of the globe now. Korea is a good example. Workers are being controlled by new government legislation while "chaebols" are just rolling in money. Their leader is another product of dynasty leadership much like the Bushes in America. She is trying to rewrite history to show her deceased father a former ruler in a more favorable light. Saddam Hussein insulted GW's father and wanted to assassinate him and look where that went. When will we ever learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) The only confusion I experienced recently were government orders that were declared to be jokes the next day... Edited December 2, 2015 by Lupatria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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