Purify dirty water?

[Jonathanmcgill]

Hey everyone, I hope this is the correct area to post this thread. I searched and this seemed to be the most general area.

My dilemma..

I live in a very rural village between Surat and krabi. The water is brownish yellow. Somedays it is a bit clearer.. But most of the time it's very bad. I assume the water comes from a local dam or something.

Being a farang, it's difficult for me to bathe with this water, and do my laundry.

My question - is there such a thing as something I can buy to purify the water? I was thinking a chlorine puck or something.. I just want to the water to be clear(ish) any suggestions? I would post a picture but I don't think I can.

Any suggestions would be great!

[lopburi3]

You need a filter system - lot of information in the real estate/home/DIY area.

[Chuckles78]

Try HomePro if you are near one.

I think you may want something like this to filter all the water before it goes in the house.

[Satcommlee]

Lots of filters available as suggested, but you could also collect rain water.

[lujanit]

Before you get a 'filter system' you need to get the water tested by an accredited lab. A filter system cannot be designed without knowing what is in the water. 800 to 1000 baht well spent.

[goltec]

To bad ,that is far away from us....we have a water purification bussines in the Isaan...... But true, if you want to do it really right you need to know what is in the water and what you want to get rid of..... If you just want to try something (no guarantee) go for 3 frp tanks with manual or automatic filterheads. In the 1st one zeolite, in the second carbon and in the third resin. You should get pretty clean water then. Even better?,,,install at the verry end a big ultra violet unit to kill all bacteria, virusses, fungusses, algae, parasites......

!!!!!! AVOID the LUX system. they ask 25000 baht for a system that costs no more than 12000 baht at our place...... just simple, 1 tank, manual backwash, carbon and anthracite combined in 1 tank.

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[SOUTHERNSTAR]

Before you get a 'filter system' you need to get the water tested by an accredited lab. A filter system cannot be designed without knowing what is in the water. 800 to 1000 baht well spent.

Can you please give me the names of these labs that provide water testing services for less than B 1000. Last time I requested a quote for water testing a borehole it came in at B 15 000 (bacteria, heavy metals, nitrates etc).

[bark]

Before you get a 'filter system' you need to get the water tested by an accredited lab. A filter system cannot be designed without knowing what is in the water. 800 to 1000 baht well spent.

Can you please give me the names of these labs that provide water testing services for less than B 1000. Last time I requested a quote for water testing a borehole it came in at B 15 000 (bacteria, heavy metals, nitrates etc).

SGS # 02-683-0541 Central Labs # 03-485-7710

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

Before you get a 'filter system' you need to get the water tested by an accredited lab. A filter system cannot be designed without knowing what is in the water. 800 to 1000 baht well spent.

Can you please give me the names of these labs that provide water testing services for less than B 1000. Last time I requested a quote for water testing a borehole it came in at B 15 000 (bacteria, heavy metals, nitrates etc).

SGS # 02-683-0541 Central Labs # 03-485-7710

Thanks they both quoted me B 15 000 and more for the proper tests. That's why I asked about the B 1000 tests, because that is about what you pay for a proper swimming pool test.

[Daniel Boon]

Australian ABC TV Catalyst program, water filter with cow manure Google it

[jackh]

Get this and stop worrying about water.....

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[carlyai]

Hey everyone, I hope this is the correct area to post this thread. I searched and this seemed to be the most general area.

My dilemma..

I live in a very rural village between Surat and krabi. The water is brownish yellow. Somedays it is a bit clearer.. But most of the time it's very bad. I assume the water comes from a local dam or something.

Being a farang, it's difficult for me to bathe with this water, and do my laundry.

My question - is there such a thing as something I can buy to purify the water? I was thinking a chlorine puck or something.. I just want to the water to be clear(ish) any suggestions? I would post a picture but I don't think I can.

Any suggestions would be great!

Hi

Ive just been through a water testing process and filyer buying and installing.

If you go to the thaivisa diy forum in the realestate section i think u will find the thread i started, (started by carlyai) Watersafe well water test kit.

You will find a lot of answers there that should bring uu to an informed decision on what to do.

[bazza40]

Depending on what's in the water, you could be wasting your money on filters if they clog up too quickly. Things such as colloids won't be filtered easily.

You could also be wasting your money on lab testing. Nitrates and heavy metals? That's BS. Nothing to do with your problem, which is suspended solids.

Chlorine tablets MIGHT kill off any bacteria; however, this depends on the chlorine demand of the suspended solids.

It also depends on what you want to do with the water. I wouldn't suggest drinking it or cooking with it, even after filtration etc.

I would suggest a bit of observation. Is the water discolouration still there if you leave it in a glass or bottle overnight? If so, colloidal clay is probably what you have.

To get rid of this, you would need floc clarification. Bench testing first.

Go to a chemical supply house. Buy pH papers, a small quantity of ferric chloride, and some lime ( calcium hydroxide ). Plus a pipette ( graduated tube ) to measure diluted chemicals.

Dissolve the ferric chloride and lime with bottled water, in separate containers. The lime will be a suspension.

to about 1-2 litres of the dirty water, add ferric chloride solution with stirring until the pH papers indicate pH 3-4. Rinse out the pipette with water, then add lime suspension with stirring until pH is indicated > 7. You should see a floc form and settle to the bottom of the container leaving clear water on top. From there, it's a matter of scaling up. A filtration system will handle the floc easily.

If all of this happens, congratulations - you've just become a chemical engineer.

[bazza40]

Australian ABC TV Catalyst program, water filter with cow manure Google it

Presume the cow manure has been heat sterilised, otherwise a good way to contract tetanus.

[robertson468]

To bad ,that is far away from us....we have a water purification bussines in the Isaan...... But true, if you want to do it really right you need to know what is in the water and what you want to get rid of..... If you just want to try something (no guarantee) go for 3 frp tanks with manual or automatic filterheads. In the 1st one zeolite, in the second carbon and in the third resin. You should get pretty clean water then. Even better?,,,install at the verry end a big ultra violet unit to kill all bacteria, virusses, fungusses, algae, parasites......

!!!!!! AVOID the LUX system. they ask 25000 baht for a system that costs no more than 12000 baht at our place...... just simple, 1 tank, manual backwash, carbon and anthracite combined in 1 tank.

We have been running the latter system very successfully for the last 10 years, including our six houses for rent. The water is clean enough to clean your teeth (we add chloride through an automatic feeder), but tell the customers that it is unsuitable as drinking water.

[sawadee1947]

when I was in Africa..,,,people put their water into plastic bottles and put these bottles on top of their huts into hot sun. After 3 days the water became drink water quality

[bazza40]

To bad ,that is far away from us....we have a water purification bussines in the Isaan...... But true, if you want to do it really right you need to know what is in the water and what you want to get rid of..... If you just want to try something (no guarantee) go for 3 frp tanks with manual or automatic filterheads. In the 1st one zeolite, in the second carbon and in the third resin. You should get pretty clean water then. Even better?,,,install at the verry end a big ultra violet unit to kill all bacteria, virusses, fungusses, algae, parasites......

!!!!!! AVOID the LUX system. they ask 25000 baht for a system that costs no more than 12000 baht at our place...... just simple, 1 tank, manual backwash, carbon and anthracite combined in 1 tank.

We have been running the latter system very successfully for the last 10 years, including our six houses for rent. The water is clean enough to clean your teeth (we add chloride through an automatic feeder), but tell the customers that it is unsuitable as drinking water.

I think you mean chlorine. Chloride does nothing to sterilise water.

[Chuckles78]

To bad ,that is far away from us....we have a water purification bussines in the Isaan...... But true, if you want to do it really right you need to know what is in the water and what you want to get rid of..... If you just want to try something (no guarantee) go for 3 frp tanks with manual or automatic filterheads. In the 1st one zeolite, in the second carbon and in the third resin. You should get pretty clean water then. Even better?,,,install at the verry end a big ultra violet unit to kill all bacteria, virusses, fungusses, algae, parasites......

!!!!!! AVOID the LUX system. they ask 25000 baht for a system that costs no more than 12000 baht at our place...... just simple, 1 tank, manual backwash, carbon and anthracite combined in 1 tank.

We have been running the latter system very successfully for the last 10 years, including our six houses for rent. The water is clean enough to clean your teeth (we add chloride through an automatic feeder), but tell the customers that it is unsuitable as drinking water.

I think you mean chlorine. Chloride does nothing to sterilise water.

He uses it to clean teeth, seems then chloride is the right choice?

[Daniel Boon]

Bazaar40 ...did you watch it or you just an armchair observer ...

[bazza40]

Bazaar40 ...did you watch it or you just an armchair observer ...

To what "it" are you referring?

[bazza40]

To bad ,that is far away from us....we have a water purification bussines in the Isaan...... But true, if you want to do it really right you need to know what is in the water and what you want to get rid of..... If you just want to try something (no guarantee) go for 3 frp tanks with manual or automatic filterheads. In the 1st one zeolite, in the second carbon and in the third resin. You should get pretty clean water then. Even better?,,,install at the verry end a big ultra violet unit to kill all bacteria, virusses, fungusses, algae, parasites......

!!!!!! AVOID the LUX system. they ask 25000 baht for a system that costs no more than 12000 baht at our place...... just simple, 1 tank, manual backwash, carbon and anthracite combined in 1 tank.

We have been running the latter system very successfully for the last 10 years, including our six houses for rent. The water is clean enough to clean your teeth (we add chloride through an automatic feeder), but tell the customers that it is unsuitable as drinking water.

I think you mean chlorine. Chloride does nothing to sterilise water.

He uses it to clean teeth, seems then chloride is the right choice?

No

[Daniel Boon]

Bazaar40 ...did you watch it or you just an armchair observer ...

To what "it" are you referring?

[Daniel Boon]

Bazaar40 ...did you watch it or you just an armchair observer ...

To what "it" are you referring?

Catalyst on ABC TV ..

[lopburi3]

Get this and stop worrying about water.....

A 200 year old candle filtration system? No thanks. Had to suffer that process in Dacca 45 years ago - all day to get a few glasses of water and then it still had to be boiled to make safe. Colonial India relic - became outdated with running water.

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[bazza40]

Get this and stop worrying about water.....

Thanks Jack.

OP, this is the answer.

Permit me to doubt. This filter probably works well with good quality water, although it's very rare to meet a manufacturer of anything that did not exaggerate claims for their product.

The OP is attempting to deal with water containing a high level of suspended solids. I don't care how good a manufacturer says a filter is, they all eventually clog. To say otherwise is the equivalent of claiming a perpetual motion machine.

I also note no pricing is given.

You are very permitted to doubt. However, before talking out your ass with your comments, how about actually looking at my website a few minutes and get some education!

"manufacturer of anything that did not exaggerate claims" - The manufacturer has independant accrediated labs test and anaylize these systems. The results of which are posted on my website. University of Arizona, County of Los Angeles, Envirotek Laboratories, Spectrum Labs, Analylitical Services Inc just to name some.

This system is designed for purifying SOURCE water. That means water from streams, rivers, lakes, ponds, drainage, and yes tap water as well.

"they all eventually clog" - sure can depending on the source water being filtered. So what? I know that means to you then they must be replaced. Fact is, a 10 minute clean process is all that is required to put them back in service again. BTW, they have no shelf life expiration so they can be used however often until they process 6000 gal of water. THEN they need replacing ($154). Equates to about $0.02 a gallong to make 100% safe water. In most systems the expire time starts from the moment they get wet wheather they are used or not.

Finally, about the only correct thing you said is I did not give pricing. I do not sell in Thailand. I sell in China and have no interest in selling in LOS. But for argument's sake, I will tell you this system costs $587 which will accomadate a family of 4-6 people. (Big Berkey)

I suggest anyone who wants safe and clean water anywhere get this system. It's all you need. I'm just trying to help out with information - don't buy it from me.

I am a retired scientist with considerable experience in water and wastewater treatment. You are obviously a salesman. I think that's all I need to say.

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[seedy]

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[jackh]

"I am a retired scientist with considerable experience in water and wastewater treatment. You are obviously a salesman. I think that's all I need to say."

Well afterall this is TV and people can claim anything. From your comments I doubt you have little to no water treatment experience.

Read my last comment very S L O W L Y. Perhaps even you can understand it. "I'm just trying to help out with information - don't buy it from me."

I am NOT selling anything.

[bazza40]

"I am a retired scientist with considerable experience in water and wastewater treatment. You are obviously a salesman. I think that's all I need to say."

Well afterall this is TV and people can claim anything. From your comments I doubt you have little to no water treatment experience.

Read my last comment very S L O W L Y. Perhaps even you can understand it. "I'm just trying to help out with information - don't buy it from me."

I am NOT selling anything.

Yes, people can claim anything. Sometimes it can be true.

" From your comments I doubt you have little to no water treatment experience".

Try reading your own sentence very S L O W L Y. I think it conveys the opposite meaning to what you intended.

[bazza40]

Bazaar40 ...did you watch it or you just an armchair observer ...

To what "it" are you referring?

Catalyst on ABC TV ..

Don't get ABC TV in Chiang Mai. Yes, an armchair observer with a good antenna for dubious science/technology.

[goltec]

To bad ,that is far away from us....we have a water purification bussines in the Isaan...... But true, if you want to do it really right you need to know what is in the water and what you want to get rid of..... If you just want to try something (no guarantee) go for 3 frp tanks with manual or automatic filterheads. In the 1st one zeolite, in the second carbon and in the third resin. You should get pretty clean water then. Even better?,,,install at the verry end a big ultra violet unit to kill all bacteria, virusses, fungusses, algae, parasites......

!!!!!! AVOID the LUX system. they ask 25000 baht for a system that costs no more than 12000 baht at our place...... just simple, 1 tank, manual backwash, carbon and anthracite combined in 1 tank.

We have been running the latter system very successfully for the last 10 years, including our six houses for rent. The water is clean enough to clean your teeth (we add chloride through an automatic feeder), but tell the customers that it is unsuitable as drinking water.

I think you mean chlorine. Chloride does nothing to sterilise water.

right. and even chlorine does not kill all..... temperture and PH play an important role in this proces as well. I hope you add chlorine BEFORE your filters to kill as much as possible. After that job is done you would want to have the chlorine removed again.....If you want to continue sterilisation of possible creeps that survived after your filters, you can install a 40 watt UV system. (with ground rod and earth leakage breaker please!!! Ask the right Thai people and you will find it......most of them have no idea what you are talking about is my experience)