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I've been "close" to an incident like this. It would help to know what time this happened. If it was night time, i'd put money on the Thai vessel having no navigation aids, and the captain was probably enjoying a few jars.

The super yacht would have had a manned bridge, and radar i guess. Paying for compensation would be normal practise, and a nice gesture from the captain, as this would be the Thai subsistence method.

Daytime, apparently there is no doubt the yacht was at fault.

Was it unser sail in which case it is unlikely to be at fault as others give way to sail

Wy you did not looked at the picture, the yacht is clearly not under sail, secondly the fishing boat was anchored. I will add, what is really scary is a 200 feet vessel navigating carelessly without any one having an eye on the radar since they believed putting the radar's alarm on was unnecessary

Why would they be looking at the radar ? It was a bright sunny day, just looking where they were going would have done :)

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“The owner of the superyacht agreed to pay full compensation to the fishing boat, so there was no need for us to charge anyone,” Lt Col Panya said. “We were just there to help.”

That's one of the problems here. Pay a bit of money and nothing goes on your record. You're free to cause problems again. If a law was broken, the offending party needs to be charged.

True, although it can also work for you !

Just imagine that you caused a minor traffic accident and can pay it off on site and be on your way, would you rather follow the law, pay nothing and spend the whole night at the police station ?

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Are the pictures from PG at the moment of impact ? Whatever means of navigation aid a boat has the most important still is the eyes on the bridge.....relying on radar and other technical installations only is regarded as reckless sailing.

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Why would they be looking at the radar ? It was a bright sunny day, just looking where they were going would have done smile.png

Because steering a ship that size, sunny day or not, the boat being 200 feet long one do not see much in front of her, but just a modest seaman's opinion, I've done a lot of sailing alone, when doing something else than steering, like cooking for instance my boat under auto-pilot I always put a radar-alarm in front of me coffee1.gif

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Are the pictures from PG at the moment of impact ? Whatever means of navigation aid a boat has the most important still is the eyes on the bridge.....relying on radar and other technical installations only is regarded as reckless sailing.

There's fishermen in the water who jumped ship, so PG photos seem to be very shortly after impact.
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Why would they be looking at the radar ? It was a bright sunny day, just looking where they were going would have done smile.png

Because steering a ship that size, sunny day or not, the boat being 200 feet long one do not see much in front of her, but just a modest seaman's opinion, I've done a lot of sailing alone, when doing something else than steering, like cooking for instance my boat under auto-pilot I always put a radar-alarm in front of me coffee1.gif

You are right, a modest opinion...

I can be pretty certain that the Captain on that vessel didn't have to duck down to the galley and knock up his own pancakes :)

Radar is a back up, a good watch keeper would have spotted an anchored fishing boat long before it was below the bow !!

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Are the pictures from PG at the moment of impact ? Whatever means of navigation aid a boat has the most important still is the eyes on the bridge.....relying on radar and other technical installations only is regarded as reckless sailing.

What's puzzling about the pics is that it looks like an aerial shot.

Did they have a drone flying above?

It can't be taken from the coast because that's in the background.

Hmmm.

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I've been "close" to an incident like this. It would help to know what time this happened. If it was night time, i'd put money on the Thai vessel having no navigation aids, and the captain was probably enjoying a few jars.

The super yacht would have had a manned bridge, and radar i guess. Paying for compensation would be normal practise, and a nice gesture from the captain, as this would be the Thai subsistence method.

Daytime, apparently there is no doubt the yacht was at fault.

Was it unser sail in which case it is unlikely to be at fault as others give way to sail
Doesn't look like it in the pic, if that pic is of the actual incident. Edited by F4UCorsair
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I like the comment " we were just here to help". Yes help the fishing boat negotiate a bigger fee. Then help relieve the said fishing boat owner of such a heavy load of 1000 baht notes to the value of about 40%. The only thing those blokes like to help is themselves to other peoples money.

Be that as it may, but this is clearly a case of "Gross Negligence" on the part of that (not so attractive) Super-Yacht ! - I would hate to round Singapore (Straights-of-Malaga), at night, with THAT skipper in charge ! ! ! I mean, if he can't manage to spot that fishing boat, in clear day-light; what change does he have at night ? ? ?

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“The owner of the superyacht agreed to pay full compensation to the fishing boat, so there was no need for us to charge anyone,” Lt Col Panya said. “We were just there to help.”

That's one of the problems here. Pay a bit of money and nothing goes on your record. You're free to cause problems again. If a law was broken, the offending party needs to be charged.

Here it's the "Law of the jungle,The way the cookie crumbles"

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I like the comment " we were just here to help". Yes help the fishing boat negotiate a bigger fee. Then help relieve the said fishing boat owner of such a heavy load of 1000 baht notes to the value of about 40%. The only thing those blokes like to help is themselves to other peoples money.

Be that as it may, but this is clearly a case of "Gross Negligence" on the part of that (not so attractive) Super-Yacht ! - I would hate to round Singapore (Straights-of-Malaga), at night, with THAT skipper in charge ! ! ! I mean, if he can't manage to spot that fishing boat, in clear day-light; what change does he have at night ? ? ?

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Can you guide us through the Malaga Straights Captain [emoji572]️[emoji6]
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I've been "close" to an incident like this. It would help to know what time this happened. If it was night time, i'd put money on the Thai vessel having no navigation aids, and the captain was probably enjoying a few jars.

The super yacht would have had a manned bridge, and radar i guess. Paying for compensation would be normal practise, and a nice gesture from the captain, as this would be the Thai subsistence method.

Daytime, apparently there is no doubt the yacht was at fault.

Was it unser sail in which case it is unlikely to be at fault as others give way to sail

The fishing boat was reported to be at anchor, so most likely the yacht was at fault.

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I like the comment " we were just here to help". Yes help the fishing boat negotiate a bigger fee. Then help relieve the said fishing boat owner of such a heavy load of 1000 baht notes to the value of about 40%. The only thing those blokes like to help is themselves to other peoples money.

I read the linked article and it didn't include any of this information...oh, wait, you were just tsking creative license.

Hey, when the truth doesn't fit your paranoia then rewrite the facts by all means.

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It obviously had no canvas out and based on the wind and closeness to shore and the fact there were 18 guests aboard it is obvious it was not under sail.

Furthermore, there are no crew at the bow even after impact so certsinly no bow watch.

The interesting thing is the churned up water suggests the fishing boat did have its engine running.

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this accident most probably happened at night and the yachts captain did the right thing if in doubt pay out .

Whatabout the canvas lieing near the bow....and the neely roller reefed jib not stowed away like all the other sails.

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Was it unser sail in which case it is unlikely to be at fault as others give way to sail
Doesn't look like it in the pic, if that pic is of the actual incident.

I think the pic used is actually from the police re-enactment.

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this accident most probably happened at night and the yachts captain did the right thing if in doubt pay out .

Daytime. Read the link.
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this accident most probably happened at night and the yachts captain did the right thing if in doubt pay out .

Daytime. Read the link.

What link..it has been removed...it did not happen

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this accident most probably happened at night and the yachts captain did the right thing if in doubt pay out .

Daytime. Read the link.

What link..it has been removed...it did not happen

In that case just read the thread or any of the news outlets. Phuketwan has the story, Phuket News does, http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-fishing-boat-saved-from-sinking-after-collision-with-ketch-55485.php as well.

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'iron wood hulled phinisi ' What is this in English please ?

Well.......you could use Google.

Iron wood, a common name given to many different woods, but, all have the properties of being hard and dense.

A Phinisi is a traditional sailing vessel from Indonesia, closely associated with Makassar (Ujung Pandang) on the island of Sulawesi.

Therefore, iron wood hulled Phinisi is a traditional Indonesian sailing boat with a very hard wooden hull.

You're welcome.

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