ronmnk Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Noticed that anything from speakers to coffee machines is 70-100% more expensive than what they would cost in Europe or the USA. I understand that import tax makes those things more expensive. But THAT much? In other Asian countries like Japan or Singapore it's mostly just 5-15% more of what you would pay in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I cannot say i have particularly noticed inflated prices on electrical equipment. The only things i really buy are TV's and they have always seemed fairly reasonable. 10-12K for a flat screen, which i presume is comparable to anywhere else. The other equipment i occasionally browse at are the electronic sections in Emporium etc toasty machines, rice makers, hot water, juicers etc never struck me as being unreasonably costly either, although granted i am rarely back in the home country these days ti gain a comparison. Things i find expensive are decent bedding and the alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmnk Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yeah, maybe you just are used to the high prices by now Was at Emporium today and saw for example an espresso machines that costs about 180 euro in Germany, 200 euro in Japan.. online in Singapore about 220.. At emporium: 325 euro. Most other once cost way more than in Europe as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit_Doggie Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 lol these things are mainly manufactured in japan/Singapore hence the prices we pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmnk Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 Would be very surprised if Delonghi and Krups are producing in Japan or Singapore. In the example I gave, it was Delonghi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Bedding is cheap and soft mattresses in the IKEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Same with cars. The prices are really high. I do know that Thailand charges high import duties but the only other country I have information about is the US which doesn't charge any. You can automatically subtract that duty from the price at the store. Thailand also has another big tax on cars which at least the US doesn't have. I was helping a young relative look at a brand new 2016 Ford Focus hatchback the other day and the price was $16,000 - 578K baht. That's all in - out the door with license and title. This is not as small as many cars sold in Thailand although it is a small car. Then there's volume buying by big retailers and competition for customers. In Thailand it seems more like prices are fixed than competition driven, although I don't know that's true. We have another well known member here who is American. He travels to America every year. One thing he is sure to do is to buy a new laptop which he may get past customs as simply his laptop. I dunno. He says the savings is large. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 70 - 100 % more in Thailand ? .No way for most electronics ,in my experience.Seems like roughly 10% more than most of Europe ,so it maybe 30% more than America ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singerman Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Some interesting viewpoints ! I have just bought (last Sat) a new laptop computer which would have cost much more had I purchased in the UK or Australia......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Supply and demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al007 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 shop around many good deals also use eBay and Lazada, i personally believe maybe cheaper here than europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Some interesting viewpoints ! I have just bought (last Sat) a new laptop computer which would have cost much more had I purchased in the UK or Australia......................... Did it have a valid OS? Many laptops bought here have illegal copies installed. Back home, they are legal. I bought a laptop a few years ago and it was about 15-20% cheaper, but add in the OS, and it was close to 50% cheaper. Plus, no Thai letters on the keyboard! LOL Duty adds to the costs here as well as not a huge demand for luxury items. Very few here are buying high end stuff. More and more every year and sites like Lazada are helping to bring prices down. But still, many high end electronics are quite a bit more expensive here. Sometimes, double what you'd pay back home...at least in the US. And especially if you are buying them at a big department store or high end stereo shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRich Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) I am from Georgia USA and the gasoline here is more expensive than South Carolina USA and way cheaper than New York USA. The same reason why the same brand of French Cognac costs more in France than it does in the USA. You already said it: tax. On the plus side, I bought a new Samsung phone from Tukcom a few months back for 3500 baht ($96). The next week when I went to my trusted computer store Microcenter in the USA the same phone was $149 (5300 baht). Edited December 21, 2015 by AdamRich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briley Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I can not quite understand why computer parts (things I buy a lot) are the same price in Chiang Mai as in the UK - but the UK has 20% VAT and Thailand has 7% sales tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howzat Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Many items manufactured in China. Am I correct in thinking that China has a free trade agreement with Thailand so transport costs should be cheaper than to Europe so you would expect prices to be cheaper?Timberland shoes for example in Emporium are about 40% higher than UK. Maybe that's why there never seems to be anybody in Emporium.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunano Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Same with cars. The prices are really high. I do know that Thailand charges high import duties but the only other country I have information about is the US which doesn't charge any. You can automatically subtract that duty from the price at the store. Thailand also has another big tax on cars which at least the US doesn't have. I was helping a young relative look at a brand new 2016 Ford Focus hatchback the other day and the price was $16,000 - 578K baht. That's all in - out the door with license and title. This is not as small as many cars sold in Thailand although it is a small car. Then there's volume buying by big retailers and competition for customers. In Thailand it seems more like prices are fixed than competition driven, although I don't know that's true. We have another well known member here who is American. He travels to America every year. One thing he is sure to do is to buy a new laptop which he may get past customs as simply his laptop. I dunno. He says the savings is large. Cheers. Maybe the US should also charge some import or other taxes on cars so they would be able to properly maintain their road network... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 They are not if you shop around. I have bought a lot of electronics recently, camera, speakers, PS4, tablet, smart phone etc and they have ALL been cheaper than in the UK. Places like Lazada (with their discounts) offer very good prices, and free delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Import duty & taxes when importing into Thailand Overview Import duty and taxes are due when importing goods into Thailand whether by a private individual or a commercial entity. The valuation method is CIF (Cost, Insurance and Freight), which means that the import duty and taxes payable are calculated on the complete shipping value, which includes the cost of the imported goods, the cost of freight, and the cost of insurance. In addition to duty, imports are subject to sales tax (VAT), and in some cases to excise, interior tax and a surcharge. Duty Rates Duty rates in Thailand vary from 0% to 80%, with an average duty rate of 20.93%. Some products can be imported free of duty, e.g. laptops and other electronic products. Sales Tax Goods imported into Thailand are subject to VAT at a rate of 7% calculated over the CIF value plus any applicable duty. Minimum thresholds Imports with a CIF value up to 1000 THB are exempt from duty and VAT. Other taxes and customs fees Alcohol and tobacco products are subject to excise duty which could be ad valorem or specific. Goods subject to excise are levied an additional Interior tax calculated at 10% of excise. Additionally, Thailand imposes certain product-specific surcharges on some foodstuffs that take the form of ad valorem or specific duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arabowen1986 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 shop around many good deals also use eBay and Lazada, i personally believe maybe cheaper here than europe Certainly about 30% cheaper than Europe if you know the right place to buy. We bought an ZTE smartphone, excellent quality, at Lazada at 900 Baht (promotion). The built-in camera is excellent for this price category, bottom line smartphone. Now this promotion is finished, we wanted to buy one more but now the price is 1900 Baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Made in Thailand or not made in Thailand makes the difference, import tax on electrical equipment is high. I noticed that simple HP laser printers are more than twice as expensive here as in Europe, it goes for anything with a plug that is not made here.Electronics manufacturers are moving their production to other countries, so more stuff will become expensive here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmnk Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 They are not if you shop around. I have bought a lot of electronics recently, camera, speakers, PS4, tablet, smart phone etc and they have ALL been cheaper than in the UK. Places like Lazada (with their discounts) offer very good prices, and free delivery. Yeah, some products can be found cheaper on sites like Lazada. But I've also had tons of situations where it was impossible to not buy 70-90% more. For example with delonghi espresso maker, bose speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 70 - 100 % more in Thailand ? .No way for most electronics ,in my experience.Seems like roughly 10% more than most of Europe ,so it maybe 30% more than America ? I agree on average it seems to be around 30% more expensive. There are some goods which are almost double of prices in the US. I think many times it has to do with the re seller or importer wanting big profits, hence such a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 They are not if you shop around. I have bought a lot of electronics recently, camera, speakers, PS4, tablet, smart phone etc and they have ALL been cheaper than in the UK. Places like Lazada (with their discounts) offer very good prices, and free delivery. Yeah, some products can be found cheaper on sites like Lazada. But I've also had tons of situations where it was impossible to not buy 70-90% more. For example with delonghi espresso maker, bose speakers. I was in the market for some high quality, outdoor speakers. The difference in price is dramatic between here and back in the US. Easily double or more. Bose were ones I was also looking at. But how many Thais are willing to pay the price for these things? I'm guessing not many. So a very low demand. I've been told to go to Hong Kong and bring them back in our suitcase! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Don't forget, the most saled electronics in Thailand are produced in Thailand and in China. So it don't give an import tax on the most products. Thailand has a FreeTrade Arragement with China. In my eyes a lot of things are so expensive because it don't give a real competition in Thailand and everyone want earn so much they can. Maybe they make price agreement too? Who know it!!! But what it give here? Shoppingmarket: Tesco Lotus, Big C, Makro and some small one. No discounters like WalMart, Aldi, Lidl, ...!!! For electronics Powerbuy and ..... ??? No other big one more. In Pattaya NumChai but that's all. For computer and parts it is the Com7 Group (Banana IT, Apple, ...), J.I.B. and Hardware House. How much profit Tesco and BigC make, you can see at all small shops what they build now everywhere. :-) No competition = high prices!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LALes Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Big screen TVs are Waaaaaaaaaaaaay more in Thailand than the US. And they are Made In Thailand!! Most of the big names in TV have plants here except for Sharp, which still imports their panels from Japan. Prices are fixed. You might find a "deal" where you save a few thousand baht, but there is no Costco or Walmart here to kick them in the ass. And I'm sure they are quite happy that there is no Costco here. Phones are another matter. Not too much difference in price there. Must be a volume thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuk23 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I know what you mean I wanted to order a computer steering wheel for the kids and in America they sell for about 8500 baht but here they go for at least 20,000 to 30.000 baht no way I will pay that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) I know what you mean I wanted to order a computer steering wheel for the kids and in America they sell for about 8500 baht but here they go for at least 20,000 to 30.000 baht no way I will pay that much. Let me know if you're interested in a hardly used Microsoft Sidewinder wheel. Edited December 21, 2015 by TheCruncher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuk23 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I know what you mean I wanted to order a computer steering wheel for the kids and in America they sell for about 8500 baht but here they go for at least 20,000 to 30.000 baht no way I will pay that much. Let me know if you're interested in a hardly used Microsoft Sidewinder wheel. Thank's for the offer, but we are looking for one with a clutch and shifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Bedding is cheap and soft mattresses in the IKEA. 100% cotton high thread count sheets cost a fortune here.. Sure cheap crap is.. well cheap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Many things (yes coffee machines) are much more expensive here.. Reasons being poor supply chains.. inefficient stocking.. Low turnover of items.. Etc etc.. Basic laptops or TVs these days are volume enough that the big differences seen a decade ago have shrunk.. But many many things are still low volume and many many middlemen.. Add in random taxation and slow turnover and you have the pricing you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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