Tony125 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Philippines deploys 5,000 troops to fight terror group Abu Sayyaf http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/06/17/Philippines-deploys-5000-troops-to-fight-terror-group-Abu-Sayyaf/4461466170129/ Some 5,000 Philippine soldiers have been deployed to the southern province of Sulu to track down the Islamist militant group Abu Sayyaf. Pictured, Philippine Marines with 28th Company 8th Marine Battalion Landing Team push forward after splashing ashore in an amphibious assault vehicle during an amphibious assault training exercise. Photo by Lance Cpl. Michael Bianco/U.S. Marines ZAMBOANGA CITY, Philippines, June 17 (UPI) -- Some 5,000 Philippine soldiers have been deployed to the southern province of Sulu to track down the Islamist militant group Abu Sayyaf that beheaded two Canadian hostages and is threatening two others. At least 10 military battalions from the Philippine marines, army, air force and navy are converging on Sulu from land, sea and air, Maj. Filemon Tan Jr., spokesman for the Western Mindanao Command, said. Tan said the operation is not considered "wide scale" but will focus on areas known to back, the Islamic State-linked Abu Sayyaf. "We focus on areas known to be supportive of the Abu Sayyaf group. We will go to the communities known to provide refuge to bandits," he said. "There are selected target areas. These bandits have relatives and they hide in the populace." *** To add to the reason why its dangerous there if you visit Manila you will see armed guards at McDonald's , Burger King and Malls with shotguns or automatic weapons. *** Edited July 10, 2016 by metisdead Edited as per fair use policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISTIANa9 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 You people must visit a different Philippines to me as I lived in Cebu and never had any problems or felt unsafe anywhere in Cebu.My buddy was a DJ and we used to fly up to Manila to party all weekend in Manila and we had a fantastic time,nothing but fun met great people local and foreigners and never felt unsafe in Manila for even a second either!. I honestly don't understand what you people must do to attract such attention from bad people or to feel unsafe it just does not compute with me at all?I've travelled all over the Phils to many islands like Bohol,Bantayan,Malapascua,Camotes,Cabilao,I've done Clark and Angeles City in Pampanga also and had an absolutely fantastic time and anyone that doesn't really does have something wrong with them. In fact I don't believe these people have even been there,it's just scaremongering nonsense! Do u travel alone or with a bunch of local? Do u have private transport waiting for u? Do u stay within makati? It's makati not makati city. Have u Try walking alone at night from ayala ave to burgos st. ? Have u try walking around chinatown or 168 etc. Try it. Try walking from. La cafe (old) name up and down the street. Try walking from la cafe to makati. It's a long walk. Yry b4 u defend the unknown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Do u travel alone or with a bunch of local? Do u have private transport waiting for u? Do u stay within makati? It's makati not makati city. Have u Try walking alone at night from ayala ave to burgos st. ? Have u try walking around chinatown or 168 etc. Try it. Try walking from. La cafe (old) name up and down the street. Try walking from la cafe to makati. It's a long walk. Yry b4 u defend the unknown Where did I say Makati City,please tell me? And yes I've walked all over Manila at night,Makati,Malate,Burgos Street we use to walk there from Makati Avenue where my buddy used to DJ at Time nightclub and Chihuahua (he's Latino so did Salsa nights there!)To the Bronx Bar one of the few still open on Burgos Street at around 5-6:00am and guess what...we had a wonderful time,no problems,no attacks,nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Do u travel alone or with a bunch of local? Do u have private transport waiting for u? Do u stay within makati? It's makati not makati city. Have u Try walking alone at night from ayala ave to burgos st. ? Have u try walking around chinatown or 168 etc. Try it. Try walking from. La cafe (old) name up and down the street. Try walking from la cafe to makati. It's a long walk. Yry b4 u defend the unknown Where did I say Makati City,please tell me? And yes I've walked all over Manila at night,Makati,Malate,Burgos Street we use to walk there from Makati Avenue where my buddy used to DJ at Time nightclub and Chihuahua (he's Latino so did Salsa nights there!) To the Bronx Bar one of the few still open on Burgos Street at around 5-6:00am and guess what...we had a wonderful time,no problems,no attacks,nothing! Because you are native Phillippino YOU will have no problems going around areas or taking foreign friends around but foreigners may have problems. Thailand has 65 million people---Phill has 100 million. Beaches are even nicer in Phill but Thailand gets almost 30 million tourists a year---the Phillippeans less than 5 million. Why ? People don't want to visit poor dirty looking country where they may be kidnapped and they see armed guards at McDonald's ,banks , malls and many other places. Do you see that in Thailand, Vietnam or Laos? And you know that the country sends their Dr's nurses, school teachers ect overseas to make money to send home because of the poor conditions in Phill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Do u travel alone or with a bunch of local? Do u have private transport waiting for u? Do u stay within makati? It's makati not makati city. Have u Try walking alone at night from ayala ave to burgos st. ? Have u try walking around chinatown or 168 etc. Try it. Try walking from. La cafe (old) name up and down the street. Try walking from la cafe to makati. It's a long walk. Yry b4 u defend the unknown Where did I say Makati City,please tell me? And yes I've walked all over Manila at night,Makati,Malate,Burgos Street we use to walk there from Makati Avenue where my buddy used to DJ at Time nightclub and Chihuahua (he's Latino so did Salsa nights there!) To the Bronx Bar one of the few still open on Burgos Street at around 5-6:00am and guess what...we had a wonderful time,no problems,no attacks,nothing! Because you are native Phillippino YOU will have no problems going around areas or taking foreign friends around but foreigners may have problems. Thailand has 65 million people---Phill has 100 million. Beaches are even nicer in Phill but Thailand gets almost 30 million tourists a year---the Phillippeans less than 5 million. Why ? People don't want to visit poor dirty looking country where they may be kidnapped and they see armed guards at McDonald's ,banks , malls and many other places. Do you see that in Thailand, Vietnam or Laos? And you know that the country sends their Dr's nurses, school teachers ect overseas to make money to send home because of the poor conditions in Phill. No in Thailand they just attack and kill tourists. Quit being so ridiculous in your post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 "Because you are native Phillippino YOU will have no problems going around areas or taking foreign friends around but foreigners may have problems. Thailand has 65 million people---Phill has 100 million. Beaches are even nicer in Phill but Thailand gets almost 30 million tourists a year---the Phillippeans less than 5 million. Why ? People don't want to visit poor dirty looking country where they may be kidnapped and they see armed guards at McDonald's ,banks , malls and many other places. Do you see that in Thailand, Vietnam or Laos? And you know that the country sends their Dr's nurses, school teachers ect overseas to make money to send home because of the poor conditions in Phill." I'm blue-eyed,blond-haired and from the UK I'm afraid! So yeh,all the above with no problems,no attacks,no kidnappings from Abu Sayyaf,nothing...Had Karaoke sessions on the microphone at Wendy's at 5-6:00am with all the staff laughing with us! Been to the reggae nights at The Collective,B-Side etc. nothing but a fantastic time with probably the friendliest people in the World,the Pinoys! http://www.wheninmanila.com/manila-sunday-nightlife-reggae-music-at-b-side-bar-in-the-collective-makati/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 "No in Thailand they just attack and kill tourists. Quit being so ridiculous in your post." This!!! And on a daily basis and very well publicised these days.It really does make me wonder why people bother to go there anymore,to a place they are just so obviously not wanted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISTIANa9 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Do u travel alone or with a bunch of local? Do u have private transport waiting for u? Do u stay within makati? It's makati not makati city. Have u Try walking alone at night from ayala ave to burgos st. ? Have u try walking around chinatown or 168 etc. Try it. Try walking from. La cafe (old) name up and down the street. Try walking from la cafe to makati. It's a long walk. Yry b4 u defend the unknown Where did I say Makati City,please tell me? And yes I've walked all over Manila at night,Makati,Malate,Burgos Street we use to walk there from Makati Avenue where my buddy used to DJ at Time nightclub and Chihuahua (he's Latino so did Salsa nights there!) To the Bronx Bar one of the few still open on Burgos Street at around 5-6:00am and guess what...we had a wonderful time,no problems,no attacks,nothing! Good for u, please carry on and leave ThailAnd for us mortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 "Good for u, please carry on and leave ThailAnd for us mortal." I actually feel sorry for Thailand and the Thais when I come across such negative people as you,with nothing good to say about anyone or anywhere,poor Thailand is welcome to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISTIANa9 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 "Good for u, please carry on and leave ThailAnd for us mortal." I actually feel sorry for Thailand and the Thais when I come across such negative people as you,with nothing good to say about anyone or anywhere,poor Thailand is welcome to you! U are wrong again. There are many things i like about Philippines, just safety is not one of them. Its terribly unsafe. If i have a private transport fetching everywhere, with local escort, its a fun place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 13 Indonesian sailors abducted by suspected Abu Sayyaf terroristsMANILA: -- Thirteen Indonesian sailors have been abducted by suspected Abu Sayyaf militants from their tugboat off the southern Philippine province of Tawi-Tawi two weeks after four Malaysian hostages were released for ransom, The Manila Times Onlinereported on Thursday.Indonesia media reported that the boat captain of the tugboat Charles 00 phoned his wife and told her that gunmen who introduced themselves as Abu Sayyaf intercepted them at sea on Wednesday then demanded 20 million ringgits for their safe release.Both the abductors and their hostages were last seen heading toward Tawi-Tawi, one of the five provinces under the Muslim autonomous region. Source: http://englishnews.t...yaf-terrorists/ Edited July 10, 2016 by metisdead Edited as per fair use policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippine-militants-release-hostage-duterte-intervention-073500579.html World Freed hostage recounts boyfriend's beheading by Philippine militants Ayee Macaraig,AFP 1 hour 26 minutes ago A Filipina hostage released by southern Philippine militants on Friday broke down in tears as she recounted how her Canadian boyfriend had been beheaded a week earlier. Marites Flor was abducted in September by Abu Sayyaf militants, along with three others, two of whom -- Flor's partner Robert Hall and fellow Canadian John Ridsdel -- were killed. Flor cried as she recounted how the kidnappers led away Hall to be beheaded after a ransom deadline lapsed last week. Ridsdel had been killed in April. Edited July 10, 2016 by metisdead Edited as per fair use policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Philippines: President Duterte 'will confront' Isis-linked Abu Sayyaf as kidnappings continue http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/philippines-president-duterte-will-confront-isis-linked-abu-sayyaf-kidnappings-continue-1567229?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news&yptr=yahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorguy Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) yes,thanks for your share,phillippines has so much beautiful beach! Edited June 24, 2016 by poorguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The Norwegian hostage is the only one left , the family try to raise money to release him , since the Norwegian government will not pay anything. So I think they will kill him if they do not receive any money soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 (edited) Do u travel alone or with a bunch of local? Do u have private transport waiting for u? Do u stay within makati? It's makati not makati city. Have u Try walking alone at night from ayala ave to burgos st. ? Have u try walking around chinatown or 168 etc. Try it. Try walking from. La cafe (old) name up and down the street. Try walking from la cafe to makati. It's a long walk. Yry b4 u defend the unknown Where did I say Makati City,please tell me? And yes I've walked all over Manila at night,Makati,Malate,Burgos Street we use to walk there from Makati Avenue where my buddy used to DJ at Time nightclub and Chihuahua (he's Latino so did Salsa nights there!) To the Bronx Bar one of the few still open on Burgos Street at around 5-6:00am and guess what...we had a wonderful time,no problems,no attacks,nothing! Because you are native Phillippino YOU will have no problems going around areas or taking foreign friends around but foreigners may have problems. Thailand has 65 million people---Phill has 100 million. Beaches are even nicer in Phill but Thailand gets almost 30 million tourists a year---the Phillippeans less than 5 million. Why ? People don't want to visit poor dirty looking country where they may be kidnapped and they see armed guards at McDonald's ,banks , malls and many other places. Do you see that in Thailand, Vietnam or Laos? And you know that the country sends their Dr's nurses, school teachers ect overseas to make money to send home because of the poor conditions in Phill. No in Thailand they just attack and kill tourists. Quit being so ridiculous in your post. LOL. And that doesn't happen in the Philippines? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-26/philippines-militants-behead-canadian-tourist/7356888 (just one example) http://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Philippines/sub5_6f/entry-3910.html (includes some more examples) SOMEbody needs to "quit being so ridiculous"... The OBVIOUS bottom line here is that BOTH places can be dangerous for tourists. Edited June 25, 2016 by hawker9000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post balo Posted June 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2016 In Thailand I can walk alone at night most places, I would never dare to do the same in Phills alone without locals with me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2011 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 You can use public transport in Southern Thailand as a foreigner (looking white) and have no problems. You can't do that west of Zamboanga. The authorities will stop you from doing so. PLUS you better dont do it south of a line Molave - Sindangan. Even Pagadian is bad. Unfortunately, the entire Rio Grande area also needs to be added to that list plus the area south of the Isulan - Cotabato highway. That covers a pretty nasty and extensive stretch of land. Worse: As the Davao attacks showed - the list is incomplete and raids go far beyond. No idea if there is a statistics on chopped of white heads Thailand vs Phils. or, being more positive: white foreigners dies in captivity; or, just held hostage and released after paying some minor sums. Comparing Manila with BKK: You wont get robbed in Central BKK, be it by criminals in or without uniform. Kidnapping foreign business in Pampanga and surroundings (mostly Koreans) is a favorite past-time of filipino criminals. How many foreign businessmen have been kidnapped or their families shot in Thailand? Finally, Duterte makes the Thai junta look like Sunday school boys. The Philippines are pretty lawless, thoroughly corrupt, and health-wise an epic mess. That does not mean that are not livable spots and nice people. The overall picture is, however, the view down an unflushed toilet. Taken this together it is non-sense that Thailand is more dangerous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genobkk Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) I have not been to Manila but I have been to, Cebu, Bohol, Panglao. After hearing stories like you describe I feared for the worst but it was a great trip, no issues with taxis, they even spoke Engkish. I even walked to the mall near my hotel after dark in Cebu. Nothing bad happened I spent 3 weeks. Yes I did see armed guards at Starbucks and shopping malls, I saw a lot more poverty then Thailand. I will say that I felt less safe then in Thailand, maybe because of all the bad stuff I heard, maybe seeing all the armed guards but I am going back for a month stoping in Manila just for a few days My advise skip Manila your first time as I did If you go to the Philippines and skip Manila and use street smarts I am sure you will report back lving your trip. I will report about my first stay in in Manila as well. Edited July 9, 2016 by genobkk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I have not been to Manila but I have been to, Cebu, Bohol, Panglao. After hearing stories like you describe I feared for the worst but it was a great trip, no issues with taxis, they even spoke Engkish. I even walked to the mall near my hotel after dark in Cebu. Nothing bad happened I spent 3 weeks. Yes I did see armed guards at Starbucks and shopping malls, I saw a lot more poverty then Thailand. I will say that I felt less safe then in Thailand, maybe because of all the bad stuff I heard, maybe seeing all the armed guards but I am going back for a month stoping in Manila just for a few days My advise skip Manila your first time as I did If you go to the Philippines and skip Manila and use street smarts I am sure you will report back lving your trip. I will report about my first stay in in Manila as well. I can GUARANTEE you that all the people commenting on here,saying the Philippines is unsafe have NEVER been there and thankfully,never will! Cebu and Manila are not so different,they are the first and second largest cities in the Philippines after all Manila is much,much bigger and more overcrowded but it puts Bangkok to shame for shopping in Makati and restaurants also. Try the People's Palace for Thai food it's a great place an right in the centre of Makati and the shopping,bars,restaurants etc. : https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Restaurant_Review-g298450-d804094-Reviews-People_s_Palace-Makati_Metro_Manila_Luzon.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 I have not been to Manila but I have been to, Cebu, Bohol, Panglao. After hearing stories like you describe I feared for the worst but it was a great trip, no issues with taxis, they even spoke Engkish. I even walked to the mall near my hotel after dark in Cebu. Nothing bad happened I spent 3 weeks. Yes I did see armed guards at Starbucks and shopping malls, I saw a lot more poverty then Thailand. I will say that I felt less safe then in Thailand, maybe because of all the bad stuff I heard, maybe seeing all the armed guards but I am going back for a month stoping in Manila just for a few days My advise skip Manila your first time as I did If you go to the Philippines and skip Manila and use street smarts I am sure you will report back lving your trip. I will report about my first stay in in Manila as well. I can GUARANTEE you that all the people commenting on here,saying the Philippines is unsafe have NEVER been there and thankfully,never will! Cebu and Manila are not so different,they are the first and second largest cities in the Philippines after all Manila is much,much bigger and more overcrowded but it puts Bangkok to shame for shopping in Makati and restaurants also. Try the People's Palace for Thai food it's a great place an right in the centre of Makati and the shopping,bars,restaurants etc. : https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Restaurant_Review-g298450-d804094-Reviews-People_s_Palace-Makati_Metro_Manila_Luzon.html That's an unfair and sweeping statement. I started the thread by stating about a friend who had returned from there and gave his assessment on the place and he is well travelled around Asia. We have heard from guys who have lived there for substantial amounts of time and some who have Filipina wives. You cannot say they are all wrong just because their experiences and knowledge differs from yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I have not been to Manila but I have been to, Cebu, Bohol, Panglao. After hearing stories like you describe I feared for the worst but it was a great trip, no issues with taxis, they even spoke Engkish. I even walked to the mall near my hotel after dark in Cebu. Nothing bad happened I spent 3 weeks. Yes I did see armed guards at Starbucks and shopping malls, I saw a lot more poverty then Thailand. I will say that I felt less safe then in Thailand, maybe because of all the bad stuff I heard, maybe seeing all the armed guards but I am going back for a month stoping in Manila just for a few days My advise skip Manila your first time as I did If you go to the Philippines and skip Manila and use street smarts I am sure you will report back lving your trip. I will report about my first stay in in Manila as well. I can GUARANTEE you that all the people commenting on here,saying the Philippines is unsafe have NEVER been there and thankfully,never will! Cebu and Manila are not so different,they are the first and second largest cities in the Philippines after all Manila is much,much bigger and more overcrowded but it puts Bangkok to shame for shopping in Makati and restaurants also. Try the People's Palace for Thai food it's a great place an right in the centre of Makati and the shopping,bars,restaurants etc. : https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Restaurant_Review-g298450-d804094-Reviews-People_s_Palace-Makati_Metro_Manila_Luzon.html That's an unfair and sweeping statement. I started the thread by stating about a friend who had returned from there and gave his assessment on the place and he is well travelled around Asia. We have heard from guys who have lived there for substantial amounts of time and some who have Filipina wives. You cannot say they are all wrong just because their experiences and knowledge differs from yours. So you even admit to starting a thread denigrating somewhere you've never been then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 Absolute nonsense, I merely stated observations made by a friend who had been as I had been contemplating on visiting the place until I started reading and hearing the horror stories. I then sought advice from people who have been, lived there, visited long and short term to gain knowledge and get their views. That is the idea of a public forum, to exchange views and find out the good, the bad and the ugly. I certainly have made no judgement or degenerated anybody and stated from the outset I had never been. You need to read the post fully before making accusations like that and then read the responses from TV members. You seem to have a problem with any person whose views differ from yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Absolute nonsense, I merely stated observations made by a friend who had been as I had been contemplating on visiting the place until I started reading and hearing the horror stories. I then sought advice from people who have been, lived there, visited long and short term to gain knowledge and get their views. That is the idea of a public forum, to exchange views and find out the good, the bad and the ugly. I certainly have made no judgement or degenerated anybody and stated from the outset I had never been. You need to read the post fully before making accusations like that and then read the responses from TV members. You seem to have a problem with any person whose views differ from yours. No I have a problem with people denigrating the Philippines that have never been there,like you,as I have lived and worked there and know the truth.If you are trapped in Thailand like so many here desperately trying to convince yourself that putting all your assets in your Thai wife's/girlfriend's name was a wise move then you're in denial,if not I don't understand what your motivation is? The Philippines are beautiful islands with some of the most pristine beaches in the World and some of the friendliest people in the World to boot,if you don't want to go there that is just fine but why are you trying to convince other people not to go there.When Thailand is clearly less welcoming to foreigners and far,far more violent with many more unexplained tourist deaths on a daily basis? The same can be said of Vietnam,Cambodia,Laos,Myanmar,Indonesia,Malaysia,Singapore etc. with regards to tourist deaths,unexplained or otherwise these are the indisputable facts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Whatever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Absolute nonsense, I merely stated observations made by a friend who had been as I had been contemplating on visiting the place until I started reading and hearing the horror stories. I then sought advice from people who have been, lived there, visited long and short term to gain knowledge and get their views. That is the idea of a public forum, to exchange views and find out the good, the bad and the ugly. I certainly have made no judgement or degenerated anybody and stated from the outset I had never been. You need to read the post fully before making accusations like that and then read the responses from TV members. You seem to have a problem with any person whose views differ from yours. No I have a problem with people denigrating the Philippines that have never been there,like you,as I have lived and worked there and know the truth.If you are trapped in Thailand like so many here desperately trying to convince yourself that putting all your assets in your Thai wife's/girlfriend's name was a wise move then you're in denial,if not I don't understand what your motivation is? The Philippines are beautiful islands with some of the most pristine beaches in the World and some of the friendliest people in the World to boot,if you don't want to go there that is just fine but why are you trying to convince other people not to go there.When Thailand is clearly less welcoming to foreigners and far,far more violent with many more unexplained tourist deaths on a daily basis? The same can be said of Vietnam,Cambodia,Laos,Myanmar,Indonesia,Malaysia,Singapore etc. with regards to tourist deaths,unexplained or otherwise these are the indisputable facts! So according to you there are no unexplained tourist deaths in the Phillippines ? You can hire hit men there to kill someone for 10000 pesos! Life is cheap there. I can find lots of articles about tourist/expat deaths in the Phills , anytime. List of foreigners killed in the Philippines in the past 10 years (August 18, 2013) October 9, 2014 at 10:46pm The list is only a sample of the foreigner murders or acts of terrorism committed there the last decade. Many more are committed and not reported in the regional or national news, case in point, look at the State Department cases - Unnamed American on my list at the bottom. AITKIN, Phillip Andrew b: abt 1963 in Australia (British passport - dual) d: 20Oct 2008 in Guadalupe Village, Lanang, Davao City, Mindanao, Philippines AKSNES, NilsFrode Steen b: abt 1958 in Norway d: 20 Jul 2009 in Grantville Subdivision,Consolacion, Cebu, Philippines ANG, Luis b:abt 1953 in Chinese National d: 18 Oct 2011 in Tondo District, Metro Manila,Philippines ATKINS, PaulRaymond b: abt 1949 in Stoke On Trent, England d: 18 Oct 2011 in Angeles City,Pampanga, Philippines BALMER, Davidb: abt 1955 in Northern Ireland d: Sep 2009 in Barangay Malabanias, AngelesCity, Pampanga, Philippines BASHAM, JamesK b: 14 May 1947 in Jefferson County, Kentucky d: 19 Sep 2010 in BarangayPampang, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines BAYLEY, Grahamb: abt 1952 in of Staffordshire, England d: 31 Dec 2010 in Cabanatuan City,Nueva Ecija, Luzon, Philippines BENNUN ORBANNAN, Geoffrey Allan b: abt 1950 in Canadian passport d: 12 Jul 2010 inClarkview, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines BROWN, IvanRoyal b: abt 1943 in /of Bentleigh Court, Australia d: 24 Sep 2008 in AngelesCity, Pampanga, Philippines BUCHNER,Donald b: in United States d: 26 Sep 1989 in near Camp O'Donnell, Capas,Tarlac, Philippines BUENAFLOR,Raymond Cesar b: 18 Oct 1938 in of the U.S. d: 10 Feb 2010 in Barangay PulungMaragul, Angeles City, Pampanga BUHLER, RonaldBarsh b: abt 1952 in Germany d: 26 May 2010 in Village 3. Talakag, Bukidnon,Mindanao, Philippines BUJNOWSKI,George Harold b: 22 May 1947 in prob Massachusetts d: 26 Aug 2009 in BarangayGun-ob, Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu, Philippines BURNEY, Jim b:abt 1944 in Australia d: 25 May 2009 in Tangalan, Aklan, Philippines BURNHAM,"Hostage" Martin "Missionary" b: abt 1960 in of Rose Hill,Butler County, Kansas d: 7 Jun 2002 in Mindanao, Philippines CABURNAY,Orlando Barrozo b: 19 Aug 1952 in /of Greatmills, St. Mary's County, Marylandd: 27 Jun 2011 in Brgy. Sampaguita, San Pedro, Laguna, Philippines CAMPBELL,Julia "Peace Corps" b: 25 Jan 1967 in of Fairfax, Fairfax County,Virginia d: 8 Apr 2007 in Brgy. Batad, Banaue, Ifugao, Philippines CARZEDDA, FrSalvatore b: in Italy d: 1992 in Zamboanga, Mindanao, Philippines CASTEEN,Leamon Wesley Jr b: 23 Jan 1935 in South Carolina d: 30 Mar 2011 in SanciangkoStreet, Cebu City, Cebu, Phillipines CHANDER,Subash "Lucky" b: abt 1977 in India d: bef 26 Sep 2010 in Ilagan,Isabela, Philippines CHANG, Suk-hi(plus two unamed) b: abt 1954 in South Korea d: 27 Jul 2008 in Kabalan village,Olongapo City, Philippines CHO, Rev.Te-Hwan "Missionary" b: in South Korea d: 22 Aug 2010 in Manila,Philippines CHOI, In-Soob: in South Korea d: 2 Dec 2011 in Hospital, Cagayan de Oro City, Philippines CO, Shahani"Raymond" b: in Chinese National d: 28 Nov 2010 in Fontana LeisureParks/Casino, CEZ, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines CONEJAR, Rodgen b: abt 1954 in Australia d: 11Nov 2011 in Bunawan Brook, Agusan del Sur, Mindanao, Philippines COWPERTHWAITE, John James b: abt 1944 inEngland d: 2 May 2004 in villa La Dolce Vita, Mt. Luho, Balabag, BoracayIsland, Aklan, Philippines DAVIS, Sgt Randy b: abt 1957 in United Statesd: 28 Oct 1987 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines DAVIS, Steven "Steve" b: in Englandd: 2002 in Manila, Philippines DEBONO, Joseph Mary b: abt 1938 in Australia d:7 Aug 2011 in Ano, Brgy. Banilad, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines DIEFENBACKED, Benn b: in Europe d: bet Jan andSep 2011 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines DOLAN, Owen b: in New Zealand d: 15 Aug 2001 inAngeles City, Pampanga, Philippines DVORAK, Richard Kevin b: 12 Apr 1961 inMissouri d: 27 Aug 2003 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines Ex-pat aka "Santa Claus” b: in UnitedStates d: 2000 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines FAHEY, Kenneth b: abt 1953 in /of Sydney, NewSouth Wales, Australia d: 24 Feb 2009 in near Ayungon, Negros Oriental,Philippines FAUST, A1C Steven M b: 11 Sep 1965 in DeerPark, Harris County, Texas d: 28 Oct 1987 in Angeles City, Pampanga,Philippines FAVALI, Fr. Tullio b: in Italy d: 1985 inTulunan, North Cotabato, Mindanao, Philippines FORSTENHAUSLER, Anton b: abt 1941 in Germany d:2 May 2004 in villa La Dolce Vita, Boracay Island, Aklan, Philippines FRONDA, Julius b: abt 1960 in /a U.S. Citizend: 14 Mar 2011 in #284 Unson St., San Pablo City, Laguna, Philippines FRONDA, Zenaida b: abt 1937 in /a U.S. Citizend: 14 Mar 2011 in #284 Unson St., San Pablo City, Laguna, Philippines <deleted>, Cheuk-Yan b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug 2010in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines FUNG, Kwok Che b: abt 1949 in of Hong Kong d:abt 8 Apr 2011 in Sitio Cantimog, Brgy. Libhu, Maasin City, Leyte, Philippines GRAHAM, James Kermit b: in United States d: inAngeles City, Pampanga, Philippines HA, Yang-Kang b: in South Korea d: 30 Jan 2010in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines HAESSLER, Kartsen b: abt 1963 in of Wolfsburg,Germany d: Nov 2006 in San Francisco, Agusan del Sur, Mindanao, Philippines HAMMER, John d: abt 2000 in Angeles City,Pampanga, Philippines HOLTZ, Hans b: abt 1954 in Germany d: 14 Apr2006 in Clark Ave, Villasol Subd, Brgy Arunas, Angeles City, Philippines HOLZ, Werner b: abt 1947 in of Melbourne,Australia d: 6 Jan 2009 in Ajuy, Iloilo, Philippines HONDA, Hiromi b: abt 1951 in Japan d: abt 30Jan 2010 in Manila, Philippines HUANG, Shao-Huai b: abt 1964 in ChineseNational d: 9 Jul 2011 in St. Luke’s Medical Center, Quezon City, Luzon, Philippines HYDE, William P "Missionary" b: 3 Feb1944 in of Iowa d: 4 Mar 2003 in Davao City, Mindano, Philippines HYUNG, Hur b: abt 1952 in South Korea d: 28 Sep2011 in San Juan City, Manila, Philippines IMOTO, Kazuya b: abt 1961 in Yoshimizu-Cho, Kyoto,Japan d: 8 Jun 2010 in Subic Techno Park, Subic Bay, Philippines ISHERWOORD, Jane b: abt 1947 in England d: 30Oct 2010 in Dau Street, Pilar Village, Las Piñas City, NCR, Philippines JARMAN, Leonard b: abt 1940 in Rhondda CynonTaf, Wales, United Kingdom d: 31 Aug 2007 in Las Pinas City, Metro Manila,Philippines JOHNSON, SFC Mark Wayne "Green Beret"b: 7 Jun 1962 in Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan d: 2 Oct 2002 in Malagutay,Zamboanga, Mindanao, Philippines JONES, Bruce Anthony b: abt 1960 in England d:21 Sep 2010 in Brgy. Pulung Maragul, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines KAKARA, James Thomas b: 25 Feb 1950 in LosAngeles County, California d: 24 Dec 2011 in Viva Road, Barangay KaybagalSouth, Tagaytay City, Cavite, Philippines KANG, Ha-Young b: in South Korea d: 30 Jan 2010in Clark economic zone, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines KESSLER, Martin b: abt 1963 in Germany d: May2009 in Quezon City, Philippines KIM, Jae-Chun Lee b: in South Korea d: 16 Dec2011 in Sta Barbara, Piat, Cagayan, Luzon, Philippines KIM, Min-Jung b: abt 1988 in South Korea d: 24May 2011 in in Eurotel, Pedro Gil Street, Malate, Metro Manila, Philippines KIM, Young-Dal b: abt 1954 in South Korea d: 26Jul 2011 in Ternate, Cavite, Philippines KINDY, Steven "Steve" aka Candy b: 12Mar 1969 in of Midland, Midland County, Michigan d: 20 Sep 2010 in Mahayahay,Iligan, Lanao del Norte, Philippines KO, Jaem-Young b: abt 1962 in South Korea d:abt 20 Jul 2010 in Villasol Subd., Brgy. Anunas, Angeles City, Pampanga,Philippines KRUSE, Herman b: abt 1941 in Germany d: 3 Jul2009 in Daan Bantayan, Cebu, Philippines KUMAR, Anil b: abt 1975 in India d: 20 May 2007in Lucban town, Quezon, Luzon, Philippines LAVERI, William "Bill" b: 20 Aug 1939in prob Connecticut d: 28 Jul 2011 in Sta. Maria 1, Balibago, Angeles City,Pampanga, Philippines LEE, Hyen-Koung b: in South Korea d: 26 Dec2007 in Brgy. Manibaug, Paralaya, Pampanga, Philippines LEUNG, Doris Chung-See b: abt 1989 in of HongKong (Canadian Passport) d: 23 Aug 2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila,Philippines LEUNG, Jessie Song-yi b: abt 1996 in of HongKong (Canadian Passport) d: 23 Aug 2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila,Philippines LEUNG, Ken Kam-wing b: in of Hong Kong(Canadian Passport) d: 23 Aug 2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines LIM, Kyong Il b: abt 1979 in South Korea d: 30Jan 2011 in Ayala Alabang Village, Metro Manila, Philippines LINGLEY, Barry Ernest b: 7 May 1950 in /of SanJose, Santa Clara County, California d: 27 Jun 2011 in Brgy. Cristo Rey, Capas,Tarlac, Philippines LOBKI, Antonio Henricos b: abt 1919 inNetherlands d: 6 Jan 2009 in Barangay Liboron, Carcar City, Cebu, Phillipines MAGELLAN, Ferdinand b: c 1480 in Sabrosa,Portugal d: 27 Apr 1521 in Mactan Island, Cebu, Philippines MANGANTI, Ret. Sgt. Herculano b: abt 1927 inPhilippines with U.S. Citizenship d: 28 Oct 1987 in Angeles City, Pampanga,Philippines MASA, Tse b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug 2010 inQuirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines MAXWELL, Charles "Charlie" b: abt1948 in of Longbridge Deverill, Warminster, Wiltshire, England d: 12 Apr 2009in Ubay, Bohol, Philippines MAZZA, Sergio Sandro b: abt 1972 in of Berlin,Germany d: 10 Jun 2010 in Legaspi Village, Makati, Manila, Philippines MCDONALD, John Lorne b: abt 1983 in ofAberdeen, Lancashire, England d: 5 Sep 2010 in Angona, Rizal, Philippines MELTON, Jerry b: abt 1957 in United States d: 5Mar 2009 in Barangay Malabanias, Angeles City, Philippines MICHALSKI, Dr Frank Joseph M.D. b: 28 Sep 1938in of Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida d: 10 Aug 2009 in Tagaytay City,Cavite, Philippines MIDDLETON, Carl Roy b: abt 1968 in of Englandd: 19 Jun 2010 in Tayaw Lodge, Baguio City, Philippines MILLER, William Henry "Billy" b: abt1966 in United States d: 16 Dec 2010 in Barangay Capaya, Angeles City,Philippines MITCHELL, Albert Raye Sr b: 28 Nov 1937 inHighpoint, Guilford County, North Carolina d: 22 Jul 2010 in BarangayMalabanias, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines MURDOCH, Gordan David b: abt 1939 in ofBatemans Bay, Australia d: 16 Feb 1981 in Mindanao, Philippines NICHOLAS, Anthony b: abt 1946 in of London,England d: 6 Sep 2010 in Sitio Matlag, Barangay 4, Sipalay, Negros Occidental,Philippines NOE, Victor Eugene b: 31 Jan 1946 in of Indianad: 24 Jul 2006 in R. Duterte Street, Banawa, Cebu City, Cebu, Philippines OH, Young-Kwan b: abt 1969 in South Korea d: 26Dec 2007 in Brgy. Manibaug, Paralaya, Pampanga, Philippines PERIDER, Pierre b: in Belguim d: 22 Apr 2009 inSouthern Tagalog Arterial Road (STAR) Tollway in Batangas, Luzon, Philippines PORTER, James Bolton b: abt 1960 in of Lincoln,Lincolnshire, England d: 16 Jul 2010 in Barangay Balibago, Angeles City,Pampanga, Philippines R, Richard b: abt 1940 in of Canton,Switzerland d: 12 May 2010 in /near Manila, Philippines RASAY, Mikael Troy Johansen b: abt 1993 in ofOslo, Norway d: 31 Jul 2011 in Timog Avenue, Quezon City, Philippines REICH, Alexander b: abt 1987 in /ofBrüttisellen, in canton Zurich, Switzerland d: 22 Sep 2011 in Quezon City,Metro Manila, Philippines REUTENBERG, Darcy Hanz "Missionary"b: abt 1958 in Canada d: 26 Jun 2011 in Barangay Adlawon, Cebu City, Cebu,Philippines ROBERTS, Paul Anthony b: abt 1949 in England d:28 Jun 2009 in Barangay Canigao, Kalibo, Aklan, Philippines ROWE, COL James Nicholas b: 8 Feb 1938 inMcAllen, Hidalgo County, Texas d: 21 Apr 1989 in Quezon City, Metro Manila,Philippines SABERO, Guillermo b: abt 1961 in of Corona,Riverside County, California d: abt 12 Jun 2001 in Basilan Island, Mindanao,Philippines SCHOENI, Manfred b: abt 1944 in Switzerland d:2 May 2004 in villa La Dolce Vita, Mt. Luho, Balabag, Boracay Island, Aklan,Philippines SELVARAJ, Palaniappen b: abt 1955 in Malaysiad: 18 Jun 2009 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines SHINDA, Surinder b: in Jalandhar, Punjab, Indiad: Jul 2006 in Manila, Philippines SIEPKAMP, Hans van de b: 10 Feb 1952 inVoorburg, Leidschendam, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands d: 15 Dec 2011 in Sta. Maria1, Balibago, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines SINGH, Charmjewd b: in India d: 25 Nov 2010 inPresident Quirino, Sultan Kudarat, Mindanao, Philippines SINGH, Gurmail b: abt 1969 in Kot-Bhaktu,Bathinda, Punjabi, India d: 22 Jan 2011 in Manila, Philippines SINGH, Manjeat b: abt 1984 in India d: 15 Nov2011 in Agusan del Sur, Mindanao, Philippines SINGH, Mohinder b: in India d: 25 Feb 2011 inManila, Philippines SINGH, Pardeep b: abt 1985 in India d: 5 Mar2011 in Angono, Rizal, Philippines SINGH, Raja b: abt 1974 in India d: 10 Aug 2011in Brgy. Lower Mohon, Talisay City, Cebu, Philippines SINGH, Satinder b: abt 1984 in India d: 10 Jun2010 in Panabo, Davao del Norte, Mindanao, Philippines SINGH, Sokhdib b: in India d: 5 Oct 2010 inBrgy. Lag-asan, Cadiz City, Negros Occidental, Philippines SINGH, Sukhinder b: abt 1985 in India d: 15 Nov2011 in Agusan del Sur, Mindanao, Philippines SMITH, Brian Thomas b: 20 Feb 1960 in Grinnell,Poweshiek County, Iowa d: 30 Jan 2002 in Mt. Pinatubo, Porac, Pampanga, Philippines SO, Richard b: abt 1955 in Chinese d: 24 Sep2010 in Haven Hotel, Brgy. Pulung Maragul, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines STEIN, Nils Aksnes Frodei b: abt 1958 in Norwayd: 20 Jul 2009 in Subd. Jugan, Consolacion town, Cebu, Philippines SUBHASH, Chandre Bhati b: abt 1974 in India d: 7Dec 2011 in Purok 2, Brgy. Naggasican, Santiago City, Isabela, Philippines SUNG, Jung-Hak b: abt 1982 in South Korea d: 7Aug 2010 in Brgy. Dau, Mabalacat, Pampanga, Philippines TENTORIO, Fr. Fausto b: abt 1952 in Italy d: 17Oct 2011 in Arakan, North Cotabato, Mindanao, Philippines THOMPSON, William b: in United States d: 26 Sep1989 in near Camp O'Donnell, Capas, Tarlac, Philippines THORPE, Thomas Michael b: 26 Dec 1979 inCanandaigua, Ontario County, New York d: 13 Aug 2009 in Fields Ave., Balibago,Angeles City, Pampamga, Philippines U.S. STATE DEPT FILE, Two Unnamed American(s)b: in U.S. Citizen d: 25 Mar 2010 in San Jose Del Monte, Bulacan, Philippines US NAVY, Two "Sebees" b: in of UnitedStates d: 29 Sep 2009 in near Indanan, Sulu, Jolo Island, Philippines VIKSTEN, Alfonso Meker b: abt 1947 in Swedend: 7 Jun 2008 in Sitio Catap, Brgy. Banlot, Sibonga, Cebu, Philippines WANG, Guilin b: abt 1964 in Chinese National d:18 Dec 2001 in Nueva Ecija province, North Luzon, Philippines WILLIAMS, Martin b: abt 1966 in of Liverpool,England d: 24 Mar 2009 in Boloc-boloc Spring, Brgy. Mansasa, Pangalo, Bohol,Philippines WONG, Tze-Iam b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug 2010in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines YEUNG, Yee-kam b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines YEUNG, Yee-Wa b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug 2010in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) Hawker, thanks for confirming my assumption. You dont have better data at hand. So why are other statements more laughable than you own? Yup nice try and even nicer score Anyhow, I think we agree that the Phils are relatively more dangerous than Thailand while Thailand has more victims in absolute numbers. His statements dovetail with my experiences. I live in Thailand and work in Manila. Fort bonifacio is as safe and sterile as singapore, Forbes is hundred year old trees and mansions . Head through the golf course to the outskirts of makati and things can get real pretty quick. Certain areas of metro Manila make klong toey look like a country club. The Philippines has a far more extreme range of conditions from wealthy and very beautiful gated communities to the direst of slums often separated by a street or a 5 meter wall. And yes violence against foreigners may well be higher - as you said the ratios are higher- the Phil's wins hands down in degree of violence against foreigners as well as but just plain violence against their own. Edited July 10, 2016 by HooHaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 when I was still with my now-ex pilipina missus, we were staying on family land outside Cavite. We (I) noticed many events going on all the time around us... Even the old bag was starting to get scared, when a whitey down the street was murdered whilst out on his farm property. The killers took all his property (including the house etc that is) Eventually his missus was taken down too, when she was implicated in the affair I checked that listing earlier in this Thread. Still sweating how close I had become to being on that list back 1995 era. My then-fiancee's ex-common law hubby had sneaked into our Engagement/her birthday party on the beach. (I later found out how nasty the back ground of my threat, that no one including my then fiancee warned me of his presence) He was pretending to be a 'cousin' While drinking in a big tent, separate from all the women folk, this dude JoJo C***, a worker at Ternate Resort (who I also found out later was an earlier convicted killer) , tried to buddy up and amid the drinking, tried to coax me onto a long boat down by the waterside, as he wanted to take me out, just him and me, out onto the bay when I declined the offer he then vanished back into the crowd and apparently left... Months later, after married, and then the soon-after separation, I come across some photos. It was him! the ex's ex common law hubby, in OUR room,both in their undies. My last words to her were my thoughts and realisations on what had earlier transpired (on the beach), and she admitted something bad was planned, though denied being part of it. Anyhow, I am a cool kat, and didn't rip her head off, instead ensured she got back on the plane that was due to leave for Singapore then PhiloLand good riddance they deserved each other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Absolute nonsense, I merely stated observations made by a friend who had been as I had been contemplating on visiting the place until I started reading and hearing the horror stories. I then sought advice from people who have been, lived there, visited long and short term to gain knowledge and get their views. That is the idea of a public forum, to exchange views and find out the good, the bad and the ugly. I certainly have made no judgement or degenerated anybody and stated from the outset I had never been. You need to read the post fully before making accusations like that and then read the responses from TV members. You seem to have a problem with any person whose views differ from yours. No I have a problem with people denigrating the Philippines that have never been there,like you,as I have lived and worked there and know the truth.If you are trapped in Thailand like so many here desperately trying to convince yourself that putting all your assets in your Thai wife's/girlfriend's name was a wise move then you're in denial,if not I don't understand what your motivation is? The Philippines are beautiful islands with some of the most pristine beaches in the World and some of the friendliest people in the World to boot,if you don't want to go there that is just fine but why are you trying to convince other people not to go there.When Thailand is clearly less welcoming to foreigners and far,far more violent with many more unexplained tourist deaths on a daily basis? The same can be said of Vietnam,Cambodia,Laos,Myanmar,Indonesia,Malaysia,Singapore etc. with regards to tourist deaths,unexplained or otherwise these are the indisputable facts! So according to you there are no unexplained tourist deaths in the Phillippines ? You can hire hit men there to kill someone for 10000 pesos! Life is cheap there. I can find lots of articles about tourist/expat deaths in the Phills , anytime. List of foreigners killed in the Philippines in the past 10 years (August 18, 2013) October 9, 2014 at 10:46pm The list is only a sample of the foreigner murders or acts of terrorism committed there the last decade. Many more are committed and not reported in the regional or national news, case in point, look at the State Department cases - Unnamed American on my list at the bottom. AITKIN, Phillip Andrew b: abt 1963 in Australia (British passport - dual) d: 20Oct 2008 in Guadalupe Village, Lanang, Davao City, Mindanao, Philippines AKSNES, NilsFrode Steen b: abt 1958 in Norway d: 20 Jul 2009 in Grantville Subdivision,Consolacion, Cebu, Philippines ANG, Luis b:abt 1953 in Chinese National d: 18 Oct 2011 in Tondo District, Metro Manila,Philippines ATKINS, PaulRaymond b: abt 1949 in Stoke On Trent, England d: 18 Oct 2011 in Angeles City,Pampanga, Philippines BALMER, Davidb: abt 1955 in Northern Ireland d: Sep 2009 in Barangay Malabanias, AngelesCity, Pampanga, Philippines BASHAM, JamesK b: 14 May 1947 in Jefferson County, Kentucky d: 19 Sep 2010 in BarangayPampang, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines BAYLEY, Grahamb: abt 1952 in of Staffordshire, England d: 31 Dec 2010 in Cabanatuan City,Nueva Ecija, Luzon, Philippines BENNUN ORBANNAN, Geoffrey Allan b: abt 1950 in Canadian passport d: 12 Jul 2010 inClarkview, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines BROWN, IvanRoyal b: abt 1943 in /of Bentleigh Court, Australia d: 24 Sep 2008 in AngelesCity, Pampanga, Philippines BUCHNER,Donald b: in United States d: 26 Sep 1989 in near Camp O'Donnell, Capas,Tarlac, Philippines BUENAFLOR,Raymond Cesar b: 18 Oct 1938 in of the U.S. d: 10 Feb 2010 in Barangay PulungMaragul, Angeles City, Pampanga BUHLER, RonaldBarsh b: abt 1952 in Germany d: 26 May 2010 in Village 3. Talakag, Bukidnon,Mindanao, Philippines BUJNOWSKI,George Harold b: 22 May 1947 in prob Massachusetts d: 26 Aug 2009 in BarangayGun-ob, Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu, Philippines BURNEY, Jim b:abt 1944 in Australia d: 25 May 2009 in Tangalan, Aklan, Philippines BURNHAM,"Hostage" Martin "Missionary" b: abt 1960 in of Rose Hill,Butler County, Kansas d: 7 Jun 2002 in Mindanao, Philippines CABURNAY,Orlando Barrozo b: 19 Aug 1952 in /of Greatmills, St. Mary's County, Marylandd: 27 Jun 2011 in Brgy. Sampaguita, San Pedro, Laguna, Philippines CAMPBELL,Julia "Peace Corps" b: 25 Jan 1967 in of Fairfax, Fairfax County,Virginia d: 8 Apr 2007 in Brgy. Batad, Banaue, Ifugao, Philippines CARZEDDA, FrSalvatore b: in Italy d: 1992 in Zamboanga, Mindanao, Philippines CASTEEN,Leamon Wesley Jr b: 23 Jan 1935 in South Carolina d: 30 Mar 2011 in SanciangkoStreet, Cebu City, Cebu, Phillipines CHANDER,Subash "Lucky" b: abt 1977 in India d: bef 26 Sep 2010 in Ilagan,Isabela, Philippines CHANG, Suk-hi(plus two unamed) b: abt 1954 in South Korea d: 27 Jul 2008 in Kabalan village,Olongapo City, Philippines CHO, Rev.Te-Hwan "Missionary" b: in South Korea d: 22 Aug 2010 in Manila,Philippines CHOI, In-Soob: in South Korea d: 2 Dec 2011 in Hospital, Cagayan de Oro City, Philippines CO, Shahani"Raymond" b: in Chinese National d: 28 Nov 2010 in Fontana LeisureParks/Casino, CEZ, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines CONEJAR, Rodgen b: abt 1954 in Australia d: 11Nov 2011 in Bunawan Brook, Agusan del Sur, Mindanao, Philippines COWPERTHWAITE, John James b: abt 1944 inEngland d: 2 May 2004 in villa La Dolce Vita, Mt. Luho, Balabag, BoracayIsland, Aklan, Philippines DAVIS, Sgt Randy b: abt 1957 in United Statesd: 28 Oct 1987 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines DAVIS, Steven "Steve" b: in Englandd: 2002 in Manila, Philippines DEBONO, Joseph Mary b: abt 1938 in Australia d:7 Aug 2011 in Ano, Brgy. Banilad, Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines DIEFENBACKED, Benn b: in Europe d: bet Jan andSep 2011 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines DOLAN, Owen b: in New Zealand d: 15 Aug 2001 inAngeles City, Pampanga, Philippines DVORAK, Richard Kevin b: 12 Apr 1961 inMissouri d: 27 Aug 2003 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines Ex-pat aka "Santa Claus” b: in UnitedStates d: 2000 in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines FAHEY, Kenneth b: abt 1953 in /of Sydney, NewSouth Wales, Australia d: 24 Feb 2009 in near Ayungon, Negros Oriental,Philippines FAUST, A1C Steven M b: 11 Sep 1965 in DeerPark, Harris County, Texas d: 28 Oct 1987 in Angeles City, Pampanga,Philippines FAVALI, Fr. Tullio b: in Italy d: 1985 inTulunan, North Cotabato, Mindanao, Philippines FORSTENHAUSLER, Anton b: abt 1941 in Germany d:2 May 2004 in villa La Dolce Vita, Boracay Island, Aklan, Philippines FRONDA, Julius b: abt 1960 in /a U.S. Citizend: 14 Mar 2011 in #284 Unson St., San Pablo City, Laguna, Philippines FRONDA, Zenaida b: abt 1937 in /a U.S. Citizend: 14 Mar 2011 in #284 Unson St., San Pablo City, Laguna, Philippines <deleted>, Cheuk-Yan b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug 2010in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines FUNG, Kwok Che b: abt 1949 in of Hong Kong d:abt 8 Apr 2011 in Sitio Cantimog, Brgy. Libhu, Maasin City, Leyte, Philippines GRAHAM, James Kermit b: in United States d: inAngeles City, Pampanga, Philippines HA, Yang-Kang b: in South Korea d: 30 Jan 2010in Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines HAESSLER, Kartsen b: abt 1963 in of Wolfsburg,Germany d: Nov 2006 in San Francisco, Agusan del Sur, Mindanao, Philippines HAMMER, John d: abt 2000 in Angeles City,Pampanga, Philippines HOLTZ, Hans b: abt 1954 in Germany d: 14 Apr2006 in Clark Ave, Villasol Subd, Brgy Arunas, Angeles City, Philippines HOLZ, Werner b: abt 1947 in of Melbourne,Australia d: 6 Jan 2009 in Ajuy, Iloilo, Philippines HONDA, Hiromi b: abt 1951 in Japan d: abt 30Jan 2010 in Manila, Philippines HUANG, Shao-Huai b: abt 1964 in ChineseNational d: 9 Jul 2011 in St. Luke’s Medical Center, Quezon City, Luzon, Philippines HYDE, William P "Missionary" b: 3 Feb1944 in of Iowa d: 4 Mar 2003 in Davao City, Mindano, Philippines HYUNG, Hur b: abt 1952 in South Korea d: 28 Sep2011 in San Juan City, Manila, Philippines IMOTO, Kazuya b: abt 1961 in Yoshimizu-Cho, Kyoto,Japan d: 8 Jun 2010 in Subic Techno Park, Subic Bay, Philippines ISHERWOORD, Jane b: abt 1947 in England d: 30Oct 2010 in Dau Street, Pilar Village, Las Piñas City, NCR, Philippines JARMAN, Leonard b: abt 1940 in Rhondda CynonTaf, Wales, United Kingdom d: 31 Aug 2007 in Las Pinas City, Metro Manila,Philippines JOHNSON, SFC Mark Wayne "Green Beret"b: 7 Jun 1962 in Saginaw, Saginaw County, Michigan d: 2 Oct 2002 in Malagutay,Zamboanga, Mindanao, Philippines JONES, Bruce Anthony b: abt 1960 in England d:21 Sep 2010 in Brgy. Pulung Maragul, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines KAKARA, James Thomas b: 25 Feb 1950 in LosAngeles County, California d: 24 Dec 2011 in Viva Road, Barangay KaybagalSouth, Tagaytay City, Cavite, Philippines KANG, Ha-Young b: in South Korea d: 30 Jan 2010in Clark economic zone, Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines KESSLER, Martin b: abt 1963 in Germany d: May2009 in Quezon City, Philippines KIM, Jae-Chun Lee b: in South Korea d: 16 Dec2011 in Sta Barbara, Piat, Cagayan, Luzon, Philippines KIM, Min-Jung b: abt 1988 in South Korea d: 24May 2011 in in Eurotel, Pedro Gil Street, Malate, Metro Manila, Philippines KIM, Young-Dal b: abt 1954 in South Korea d: 26Jul 2011 in Ternate, Cavite, Philippines KINDY, Steven "Steve" aka Candy b: 12Mar 1969 in of Midland, Midland County, Michigan d: 20 Sep 2010 in Mahayahay,Iligan, Lanao del Norte, Philippines KO, Jaem-Young b: abt 1962 in South Korea d:abt 20 Jul 2010 in Villasol Subd., Brgy. Anunas, Angeles City, Pampanga,Philippines KRUSE, Herman b: abt 1941 in Germany d: 3 Jul2009 in Daan Bantayan, Cebu, Philippines KUMAR, Anil b: abt 1975 in India d: 20 May 2007in Lucban town, Quezon, Luzon, Philippines LAVERI, William "Bill" b: 20 Aug 1939in prob Connecticut d: 28 Jul 2011 in Sta. Maria 1, Balibago, Angeles City,Pampanga, Philippines LEE, Hyen-Koung b: in South Korea d: 26 Dec2007 in Brgy. Manibaug, Paralaya, Pampanga, Philippines LEUNG, Doris Chung-See b: abt 1989 in of HongKong (Canadian Passport) d: 23 Aug 2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila,Philippines LEUNG, Jessie Song-yi b: abt 1996 in of HongKong (Canadian Passport) d: 23 Aug 2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila,Philippines LEUNG, Ken Kam-wing b: in of Hong Kong(Canadian Passport) d: 23 Aug 2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines LIM, Kyong Il b: abt 1979 in South Korea d: 30Jan 2011 in Ayala Alabang Village, Metro Manila, Philippines LINGLEY, Barry Ernest b: 7 May 1950 in /of SanJose, Santa Clara County, California d: 27 Jun 2011 in Brgy. Cristo Rey, Capas,Tarlac, Philippines LOBKI, Antonio Henricos b: abt 1919 inNetherlands d: 6 Jan 2009 in Barangay Liboron, Carcar City, Cebu, Phillipines MAGELLAN, Ferdinand b: c 1480 in Sabrosa,Portugal d: 27 Apr 1521 in Mactan Island, Cebu, Philippines MANGANTI, Ret. Sgt. 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Fausto b: abt 1952 in Italy d: 17Oct 2011 in Arakan, North Cotabato, Mindanao, Philippines THOMPSON, William b: in United States d: 26 Sep1989 in near Camp O'Donnell, Capas, Tarlac, Philippines THORPE, Thomas Michael b: 26 Dec 1979 inCanandaigua, Ontario County, New York d: 13 Aug 2009 in Fields Ave., Balibago,Angeles City, Pampamga, Philippines U.S. STATE DEPT FILE, Two Unnamed American(s)b: in U.S. Citizen d: 25 Mar 2010 in San Jose Del Monte, Bulacan, Philippines US NAVY, Two "Sebees" b: in of UnitedStates d: 29 Sep 2009 in near Indanan, Sulu, Jolo Island, Philippines VIKSTEN, Alfonso Meker b: abt 1947 in Swedend: 7 Jun 2008 in Sitio Catap, Brgy. Banlot, Sibonga, Cebu, Philippines WANG, Guilin b: abt 1964 in Chinese National d:18 Dec 2001 in Nueva Ecija province, North Luzon, Philippines WILLIAMS, Martin b: abt 1966 in of Liverpool,England d: 24 Mar 2009 in Boloc-boloc Spring, Brgy. Mansasa, Pangalo, Bohol,Philippines WONG, Tze-Iam b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug 2010in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines YEUNG, Yee-kam b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug2010 in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines YEUNG, Yee-Wa b: in of Hong Kong d: 23 Aug 2010in Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Philippines That 126 people I counted IN TEN YEARS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! Pick any SINGLE Western country and I guarantee you that there are HUNDREDS of their tourists murdered or dying unexplained deaths in JUST ONE YEAR in Thailand! Let's take Australia for example,Thailand is the NUMBER ONE destination in the WORLD for their nationals to die while on holiday,these are FACTS not nonsense hearsay like half of this thread! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFrenU Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Hawker, thanks for confirming my assumption. You dont have better data at hand. So why are other statements more laughable than you own? Yup nice try and even nicer score Anyhow, I think we agree that the Phils are relatively more dangerous than Thailand while Thailand has more victims in absolute numbers. His statements dovetail with my experiences. I live in Thailand and work in Manila.Fort bonifacio is as safe and sterile as singapore, Forbes is hundred year old trees and mansions . Head through the golf course to the outskirts of makati and things can get real pretty quick. Certain areas of metro Manila make klong toey look like a country club. The Philippines has a far more extreme range of conditions from wealthy and very beautiful gated communities to the direst of slums often separated by a street or a 5 meter wall. And yes violence against foreigners may well be higher - as you said the ratios are higher- the Phil's wins hands down in degree of violence against foreigners as well as but just plain violence against their own. You live in Thailand but work in Manila?Can I ask what you do and what visa you have to duck in an out of Thailand so often,I've never heard of anyone doing this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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