Germany agrees new measures to stem flow of migrants

snoop1130 · January 29, 2016

Germany agrees new measures to stem flow of migrants
Euronews

GERMANY -- More than a million migrants arrived in Germany last year – and now Berlin is making moves to stem the flow.

New measures agreed include a two-year ban on family reunions for asylum seekers who are granted limited refugee protection and speeding up the deportations of failed applicants.

A dispute over tighter immigration controls has been straining the ruling coalition and Chancellor Angela Merkel’s popularity has slumped.

“We will work case-by-case with the migrants’ countries of origin to move the issue forward,” Merkel told reporters.

“We want those with the prospect of remaining to be integrated, but we also want to say that we need those who have no prospect of remaining to return.”

Meanwhile, Germany has also issued its first ID cards for refugees. The aim is to make it tougher for individuals to travel through the country with multiple identities, linking them instead to one set of fingerprints.

German towns and cities say the influx of 1.1 million migrants last year is pushing their resources to the limit and they would not be able to accommodate more newcomers if the numbers do not go down.

A growing number of migrants from Iraq are already deciding that life in Germany is not for them. Some 50 asylum seekers flew out of Berlin on Wednesday, having volunteered to return home.

There is mounting frustration over a long application process and poor conditions at shelters.

-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-01-29

clockman · January 29, 2016

This picture shows all men. This is only storing up trouble for the future. Dangerous situation in the making.

JetsetBkk · January 29, 2016

This picture shows all men. This is only storing up trouble for the future. Dangerous situation in the making.

Yes, what happened to the little old ladies and babies we see day after day arriving at the Greek island of Lesbos. Surely those pictures aren't being selectively chosen by the media to give a false impression?

No, they would never do that.

NeverSure · January 29, 2016

Stick a fork in Europe. It's done. Those are young men bringing trouble and that's almost all I see in pictures.

Who's going to pay for all of the delayed medical and dental attention these people need? Rhetorical question, of course. Europeans are about to find out that those things really aren't "free".

So long Western Europe. It really wasn't all that nice knowing you, anyway. I think I'll spend the day reloading ammo for my M16.

Cheers.

jope · January 29, 2016

Latest figures show that for the first time there are actually more women and children than men among the refugees. Explanation: those refugees who already made it reunite with their families before possible restrictive laws prevent them from reuniting in the future.

Could that also mean that we saw the peak of the refugee influx and that the majority of people who wanted to come have already arrived? I do not know, but one can ask, can one not?

The German government declared Marokko, Algeria and Tunisia to be "safe countries" (debatable, I would say, but alright then...). Let us see whether that influences the numbers in the months to come.

I still have not lost my optimism that we will get this under control. I will reconsider, if the numbers have not dropped in Summer. And we have elections in three German states. The results may become quite motivational for the democratic parties.

Ghostnigel · January 29, 2016

I wonder how many have moved into Mother Merkel's house or street?

Scott · January 30, 2016

An off-topic post has been removed with a picture. Replies removed as well.

The topic is about Germany's new measure regarding migrants.

Mr Money Bags · January 30, 2016

Stick a fork in Europe. It's done. Those are young men bringing trouble and that's almost all I see in pictures.

Who's going to pay for all of the delayed medical and dental attention these people need? Rhetorical question, of course. Europeans are about to find out that those things really aren't "free".

So long Western Europe. It really wasn't all that nice knowing you, anyway. I think I'll spend the day reloading ammo for my M16.

Cheers.

Reloads always inevitably jam. Saving a few pennies isn't worth losing your life due to a jam.

ALWAYS use new, dry, clean ammo......

You're Welcome!!

Baerboxer · January 31, 2016

Latest figures show that for the first time there are actually more women and children than men among the refugees. Explanation: those refugees who already made it reunite with their families before possible restrictive laws prevent them from reuniting in the future.

Could that also mean that we saw the peak of the refugee influx and that the majority of people who wanted to come have already arrived? I do not know, but one can ask, can one not?

The German government declared Marokko, Algeria and Tunisia to be "safe countries" (debatable, I would say, but alright then...). Let us see whether that influences the numbers in the months to come.

I still have not lost my optimism that we will get this under control. I will reconsider, if the numbers have not dropped in Summer. And we have elections in three German states. The results may become quite motivational for the democratic parties.

If this isn't satire or a troll attempt, then you must be on another planet.

Whose figures show more women and children arriving and arriving where?

Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia are not at war with anyone. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone from any country that doesn't like the lack of benefits should have the right to pick a country in Europe, come, be looked after, given everything they want and be treated above the native citizens? Whilst refusing to respect the local laws and culture and insist their law and religion are above all and you must bow to it?

Why don't you move to an Islamic country and protest that they aren't taking in more Moslem refugees and proving everything for nothing? Let us know how you get on.

Saradoc1972 · January 31, 2016

Latest figures show that for the first time there are actually more women and children than men among the refugees. Explanation: those refugees who already made it reunite with their families before possible restrictive laws prevent them from reuniting in the future.

Could that also mean that we saw the peak of the refugee influx and that the majority of people who wanted to come have already arrived? I do not know, but one can ask, can one not?

The German government declared Marokko, Algeria and Tunisia to be "safe countries" (debatable, I would say, but alright then...). Let us see whether that influences the numbers in the months to come.

I still have not lost my optimism that we will get this under control. I will reconsider, if the numbers have not dropped in Summer. And we have elections in three German states. The results may become quite motivational for the democratic parties.

If this isn't satire or a troll attempt, then you must be on another planet.

Whose figures show more women and children arriving and arriving where?

Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia are not at war with anyone. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone from any country that doesn't like the lack of benefits should have the right to pick a country in Europe, come, be looked after, given everything they want and be treated above the native citizens? Whilst refusing to respect the local laws and culture and insist their law and religion are above all and you must bow to it?

Why don't you move to an Islamic country and protest that they aren't taking in more Moslem refugees and proving everything for nothing? Let us know how you get on.

Nah, jope is right. That's the latest news from the Greek isles and the Macedonian border, it's more women and children than males at the moment,

though we can only surmise it's for the reason he stated. What I don't see is how that flood of migrants (including refugees) is seeming to abate.

And I am wondering where the supposed males who made it to Europe first now take the money from to enable spouses and children the same

perilous journey they themselves apparently took before them.

And those Maghreb countries are obviously not at war or in a civil war, I daresay nothing gets past you. But that apparently doesn't keep some natives

from heading to Germany (not over the Meds - they take a comfy plane to Turkey where they can enter for 90 without a visa and then cross the Aegeis).

While those countries are not the nicest places on earth with a view to human rights, and you might find a couple of handful earnestly persecuted people,

e.g. trade union leaders, acceptance rate of claims for asylum is well below 3 %. They still try, because as things are it will give them years to live in a string

European nations where they can make money on welfare and street-crime.

What jope is referring to is a practice under German law where claims for asylum by nationals of individual nations can be summarily dismissed, i.e. much faster,

and the applicant would then have to bring hard evidence that in his personal case there is actual persecution. As he says, for those three states it's debatable

but tenable. Too my mind it shows under how much pressure CDU and SPD are to get the stopper back on the bottle they so recklessly opened.

What I do not agree with is the exclusion of AFD from the ranks of "democratic parties". They are, as things stand not out to abolish the pillars of German Basic Law,

there is internal democracy as could be witnessed when Henkel was ousted, they are not undemocratic because they have positions not preferred by voters of a

different (i.e. more leftist or in this case centrist) political spectrum. A democracy has to be able to tolerate dissenting views, maybe with limits, or it isn't a democracy.

NeverSure · January 31, 2016

Stick a fork in Europe. It's done. Those are young men bringing trouble and that's almost all I see in pictures.

Who's going to pay for all of the delayed medical and dental attention these people need? Rhetorical question, of course. Europeans are about to find out that those things really aren't "free".

So long Western Europe. It really wasn't all that nice knowing you, anyway. I think I'll spend the day reloading ammo for my M16.

Cheers.

Reloads always inevitably jam. Saving a few pennies isn't worth losing your life due to a jam.

ALWAYS use new, dry, clean ammo......

You're Welcome!!

ALL serious competitive shooters reload their own ammunition because it is so much more consistent and accurate than factory ammo which is mass produced by automated machines. Much of the time they have their reloading equipment at the event so that they can tune the ammo for the conditions that day.

You're welcome.

jope · January 31, 2016

Latest figures show that for the first time there are actually more women and children than men among the refugees. Explanation: those refugees who already made it reunite with their families before possible restrictive laws prevent them from reuniting in the future.

Could that also mean that we saw the peak of the refugee influx and that the majority of people who wanted to come have already arrived? I do not know, but one can ask, can one not?

The German government declared Marokko, Algeria and Tunisia to be "safe countries" (debatable, I would say, but alright then...). Let us see whether that influences the numbers in the months to come.

I still have not lost my optimism that we will get this under control. I will reconsider, if the numbers have not dropped in Summer. And we have elections in three German states. The results may become quite motivational for the democratic parties.

If this isn't satire or a troll attempt, then you must be on another planet.

Whose figures show more women and children arriving and arriving where?

Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia are not at war with anyone. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone from any country that doesn't like the lack of benefits should have the right to pick a country in Europe, come, be looked after, given everything they want and be treated above the native citizens? Whilst refusing to respect the local laws and culture and insist their law and religion are above all and you must bow to it?

Why don't you move to an Islamic country and protest that they aren't taking in more Moslem refugees and proving everything for nothing? Let us know how you get on.

UNHCR: "As of 15 January 2016, just over 55 per cent of those arriving are women and children, as compared to only 27 per cent in June 2015."

Terrifying, isn't it? Anyway, here is the link.

I do not know how you come to the conclusion that I am suggesting "that anyone from any country should have the right to pick a country in Europe etc". It is neither in my words nor between the lines.

And no, I won't go to an Islamic country to demonstrate. I rather stay in Germany and help getting the situation under control. And that we will, getting it under control.

jope · January 31, 2016

Latest figures show that for the first time there are actually more women and children than men among the refugees. Explanation: those refugees who already made it reunite with their families before possible restrictive laws prevent them from reuniting in the future.

Could that also mean that we saw the peak of the refugee influx and that the majority of people who wanted to come have already arrived? I do not know, but one can ask, can one not?

The German government declared Marokko, Algeria and Tunisia to be "safe countries" (debatable, I would say, but alright then...). Let us see whether that influences the numbers in the months to come.

I still have not lost my optimism that we will get this under control. I will reconsider, if the numbers have not dropped in Summer. And we have elections in three German states. The results may become quite motivational for the democratic parties.

If this isn't satire or a troll attempt, then you must be on another planet.

Whose figures show more women and children arriving and arriving where?

Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia are not at war with anyone. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone from any country that doesn't like the lack of benefits should have the right to pick a country in Europe, come, be looked after, given everything they want and be treated above the native citizens? Whilst refusing to respect the local laws and culture and insist their law and religion are above all and you must bow to it?

Why don't you move to an Islamic country and protest that they aren't taking in more Moslem refugees and proving everything for nothing? Let us know how you get on.

Nah, jope is right. That's the latest news from the Greek isles and the Macedonian border, it's more women and children than males at the moment,

though we can only surmise it's for the reason he stated. What I don't see is how that flood of migrants (including refugees) is seeming to abate.

And I am wondering where the supposed males who made it to Europe first now take the money from to enable spouses and children the same

perilous journey they themselves apparently took before them.

And those Maghreb countries are obviously not at war or in a civil war, I daresay nothing gets past you. But that apparently doesn't keep some natives

from heading to Germany (not over the Meds - they take a comfy plane to Turkey where they can enter for 90 without a visa and then cross the Aegeis).

While those countries are not the nicest places on earth with a view to human rights, and you might find a couple of handful earnestly persecuted people,

e.g. trade union leaders, acceptance rate of claims for asylum is well below 3 %. They still try, because as things are it will give them years to live in a string

European nations where they can make money on welfare and street-crime.

What jope is referring to is a practice under German law where claims for asylum by nationals of individual nations can be summarily dismissed, i.e. much faster,

and the applicant would then have to bring hard evidence that in his personal case there is actual persecution. As he says, for those three states it's debatable

but tenable. Too my mind it shows under how much pressure CDU and SPD are to get the stopper back on the bottle they so recklessly opened.

What I do not agree with is the exclusion of AFD from the ranks of "democratic parties". They are, as things stand not out to abolish the pillars of German Basic Law,

there is internal democracy as could be witnessed when Henkel was ousted, they are not undemocratic because they have positions not preferred by voters of a

different (i.e. more leftist or in this case centrist) political spectrum. A democracy has to be able to tolerate dissenting views, maybe with limits, or it isn't a democracy.

What can I say? The usual quality! .

Regarding AFD: their last outbreak (shoot at refugees to defend our borders) did not make them more likable for me. But yes, they are probably still in the democratic system. I remember how the green party started out (demanding free child abuse, no riot police and other peculiar things) and nowadays they are a more or less normal leftwing party. Maybe, this will happen on the other side of the spectrum with the AFD (they probably hope that the refugee crisis will never end).

Alright, let's call it "old" and "new" parties then.

BeefSlapper · February 1, 2016

Wheres that photoop pic with standing man?

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JetsetBkk · February 3, 2016

Wheres that photoop pic with standing man?

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So many threads about immigrants, I think you're getting confused...

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/889615-greece-hundreds-of-migrants-and-refugees-arrive-in-lesbos-from-turkey/#entry10358628

jerojero · February 3, 2016

Merkel started this. Perhaps her resignation is in order given the massive fiasco its become.

Thongkorn · February 3, 2016

Go look at YouTube at the real Immigrants, Mostly young men , they where given food water and clothing , They through It back and said they wanted money.

MJP · February 3, 2016

Stick a fork in Europe. It's done. Those are young men bringing trouble and that's almost all I see in pictures.

Who's going to pay for all of the delayed medical and dental attention these people need? Rhetorical question, of course. Europeans are about to find out that those things really aren't "free".

So long Western Europe. It really wasn't all that nice knowing you, anyway. I think I'll spend the day reloading ammo for my M16.

Cheers.

Report out the other day, over the course of 2016/17 the "refugee" crisis will cost Germany 50Bn Euros.

https://www.rt.com/news/330869-germany-migrants-50bn-cost/

Imagine if the borders hadn't been flung open and that 50Bn Euros had gone on supporting and protecting genuine refugees?