rooster59 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Phuket police yet to conclude probe into death of Chinese touristThe Phuket NewsRescue workers bring the body of Lu Weidong ashore at Laem Ka in Rawai. Photo: Courtesy of Phuket RescuePHUKET: The Ministry of Tourism and Sports (MoTS) Phuket office has revealed they are powerless to do anything more in their investigation into whether or not a tour guide was present when Chinese tourist died during a day tour to Racha Island earlier this month.The tourist, 50-year-old Lu Weidong, died whilst being transferred to Vachira Phuket Hospital after he was pulled from the water unconscious whilst swimming at Batok Bay on Feb 2.Following reports that no tour guide was present, Mr Santi said that his office would investigate the company regarding whether or not a tour guide was present on that day. (See story here.)“We cannot do anything more until the police have concluded their investigation, which I hope they will conclude by next week,” Santi Pawai told The Phuket News today (Feb 13). Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-police-yet-to-conclude-probe-into-death-of-chinese-tourist-56210.php -- Phuket News 2016-01-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upena Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Ministry of Tourism and Sports is powerless across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Scary to have nincumpoops in charge... Thats why this place is such a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) These Chinese tourist are drowning at a high rate both in Phuket and Krabi waters. Begs the question - when tour guides are present, are they constantly rescuing these people as they get into trouble, or, is it that they are providing training and guidance at such a high level that incidents don't occur? If so they deserve some sort of recognition from tourism authorities. Or perhaps, non swimming Chinese trying to snorkel will occasionally drown despite the presence, or not, of a guide? Perhaps what needs to be reviewed is the practise of bringing large numbers of these people to a beautiful part of the ocean, handing them snorkeling gear and saying "look at the colourful coral and fish" without first establishing if they are competent enough to be in the water. Edited February 14, 2016 by Old Croc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 When is a tour not a tour? Unless the tour guide is him/herself a qualified diver, then their usefulness is zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 ...they don't have to do anything..... ...the onus is on the victims....... ...they will continue raking in the dough regardless..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 ...they don't have to do anything..... ...the onus is on the victims....... ...they will continue raking in the dough regardless..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhajim Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 What is expected of a tour guide, that they are Rambo? Phoning the emergency services for help and CPR is the best they can reasonably do, which in many cases is not going to prevent a tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihalis Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Scary to have nincumpoops in charge... Thats why this place is such a mess The world is in a mess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihalis Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 What is expected of a tour guide, that they are Rambo? Phoning the emergency services for help and CPR is the best they can reasonably do, which in many cases is not going to prevent a tragedy. So when it happens in Australia what would the reason be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Scary to have nincumpoops in charge... Thats why this place is such a mess The world is in a mess..... I believe I have read the same lament, from various sources and from various time periods in history. I keep own house in order, help those that I can and leave the rest to a power, higher than myself. Of course, if one lacks support from an external source, that is their business. "The sun rises without my meddling and it's great to be alive". RIP for the Dear Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Scary to have nincumpoops in charge... Thats why this place is such a mess The world is in a mess..... To make an all encompassing comment like that, you must be a very sad person, damn glad I do not think the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 One flame post has been removed from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 What is expected of a tour guide, that they are Rambo? Phoning the emergency services for help and CPR is the best they can reasonably do, which in many cases is not going to prevent a tragedy. So when it happens in Australia what would the reason be ? Some people comment without any knowledge of the subject, I suggest before comment you at least do just a little research. Go read this. https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/diving-snorkelling/diving-and-snorkelling-hazards/qualifications-and-competency For people like yourself, it could be an awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 it's a fool who thinks that there are any changes in laws after investigations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Showing Chinese tourists pictures of ther drowned countrymen might help to prevent them from doing stupid things, like going into deep water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Showing Chinese tourists pictures of ther drowned countrymen might help to prevent them from doing stupid things, like going into deep water. In another news report one drowned in the hotel swiming pool ... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 What is expected of a tour guide, that they are Rambo? Phoning the emergency services for help and CPR is the best they can reasonably do, which in many cases is not going to prevent a tragedy. The tragedy should be prevented before it happens. As suggested earlier, check if people know how to swim. Hand out life-vests as floating devices in case of someone that does not have a reasonable swimming skill level insisting to go into the water. (All easier said than done if there is one tour-guide per touring car, let alone making sure that such person knows how to perform a rescue and a CPR) In case of under water activities, if my memory does not trick me thirty years after getting my PADI Rescue, the minimum company under water of an uncertified diver is a dive master. In case of training groups, we used an instructor with one or two dive masters. And even with those very experienced and dedicated people, some near misses did happen when students disregarded instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 What is expected of a tour guide, that they are Rambo? Phoning the emergency services for help and CPR is the best they can reasonably do, which in many cases is not going to prevent a tragedy. Add in "lookout duties" to your meager list of expectations, and this tourist may still be alive.... Tragedy prevented.... Rambo can stay in his box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Showing Chinese tourists pictures of ther drowned countrymen might help to prevent them from doing stupid things, like going into deep water.In another news report one drowned in the hotel swiming pool ... ?? Yeah, said he was 'relaxing' in the pool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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