Suspected Killers of Disabled Man Related to Police

[GanDoonToonPet]

Very disconcerting when officials talk about giving "fair treatment" for people who are unequivocally implicated in the brutal murder of a disabled man.

I smell another fix up / cover up in the making. Disgraceful

Ridiculous distortion of the statement by police.

Acting metro police chief Lt.Gen. Sanit Mahatavorn said at a press conference Monday afternoon that although four of the six suspects are related to police officers, the case will proceed with fair treatment

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1462258962

[GanDoonToonPet]

Said they were drunk so I guess a "Sorry" an Wei and Bht 1000 they will be out. They need to get the death penalty each of them...

Somehow I don't think so, given the severity of the charges.

The six suspects were charged with assault resulting in death and possession of knives in public without permission.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1462258962

[GanDoonToonPet]

Sad to say, but we know the thai justice system. These boys will never see a cell. This country has no rule of law. It's lawless unless your rich or connected.

They were all refused bail, so are in a cell now.

Five suspects were taken to Ratchada Criminal Court Tuesday morning. They were refused bail. One suspect, Peerapol Yodponganan, was absent from the court as he is being treated at hospital for a cut on his left arm that he received during the fight.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1462258962

[GanDoonToonPet]

They should arrest the girlfriend of one of the suspects as she was heard to be inciting the violence and urging them to kill this poor chap. Such wickedness must not go unpunished.

She was arrested & charged.

The unidentified woman was charged with instigating violence.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1462258962

[dcnx]

Sad to say, but we know the thai justice system. These boys will never see a cell. This country has no rule of law. It's lawless unless your rich or connected.

I love Thailand it's like living living in a movie. and I'm part of the movie...

It's like living in a whacky Japanese cartoon.

[dcnx]

Carrying knives without permission? News flash! Those are swords! Who do I see to carry a sword or knife with permission? What is his name? Cowards come in all age groups, the punk who is 18 is no different than the punk who is 22'

I doubt this is the first time they have killed. Only the first time to be captured on CCTV.

[Jonmarleesco]

Just a bunch of scumbags that think they are above the law because of daddy.

Sadly, they are probably right.

That might well depend who daddy is.

[nev]

Ah, so that's why they fired into the air...

when they arrived at the scene and this assault was in progress the victim may still have been alive, the police should have made every attempt to stop the assault including using deadly force

This 100%, they all 6 of them was killing a poor innocent person they all should have been shot to help the victim.

[gandalf12]

6 men beating and stabbing to death a disabled man. Speechless...

Next thing you know they will be beating up old ladies .... Oh.. Sorry, That already just happened.

No surprises anymore ...

Next is attacking babies in prams because the baby looked at them

[gandalf12]

Said they were drunk so I guess a "Sorry" an Wei and Bht 1000 they will be out. They need to get the death penalty each of them...

Somehow I don't think so, given the severity of the charges.

The six suspects were charged with assault resulting in death and possession of knives in public without permission.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1462258962

One would hope not but this is Thailand and what we consider to be the norm is definitely not here

[Lupatria]

Now I'm waiting for this interpretation from official side:

"Disabled man insulted 6 teenagers before he brutally attacked them"

[joeyg]

Having family in Law Enforcement has similar benefits in the USA. I know from first hand experience and from experience of friends. I went to grad school in California with a guy whose father was a judge. He he had other relatives in LE. He got away with murder. Not literally but he was practically untouchable. Same with a guy I grew up with in Jersey. If you had any kind of LE connections you pretty much had a free pass.

Murder? It went on a case by case basis so I've heard...

RIP to this poor soul...

Edited May 4, 2016 by joeyg

[The Deerhunter]

Sad to say, but we know the thai justice system. These boys will never see a cell. This country has no rule of law. It's lawless unless your rich or connected.

You have it the wrong way round. It is only lawless WHEN you are rich or connected! Try being poor & picking mushrooms in a national park.

[Artisi]

Ah, so that's why they fired into the air...

when they arrived at the scene and this assault was in progress the victim may still have been alive, the police should have made every attempt to stop the assault including using deadly force

I'm just wondering what the actual ROE (rules of engagement) is for armed, on duty policemen.

No, no, I am being serious, they will be there somewhere.

First up, do we know them

second, are they related to our mates

third, what is the potential for a fat brown envelope

fourth, there are too many of them to approach

fifth, it's lunch time isn't it?

this is just the main points, others can be organised on the run to suit the situation.

[chrisinth]

Prison life will be interesting when the inmates find out their Daddies a copper. Ride um cowboy! "YEE HAA!!!"

JUSTICE

Yesterday there was 3 swords recovered, today looks like they're is only 2?

Has the murder weapon got "lost" already?

Two on the table and one in the policeman's right hand (I think) reference the picture in post #42.

Can only see 5 occupied chairs though for the accused.............................

[Mystified]

Very disconcerting when officials talk about giving "fair treatment" for people who are unequivocally implicated in the brutal murder of a disabled man.

I smell another fix up / cover up in the making. Disgraceful

Fair might = Wai and "boys will be boys" plus they were drunk so no harm blah blah blah

[Mystified]

when they arrived at the scene and this assault was in progress the victim may still have been alive, the police should have made every attempt to stop the assault including using deadly force

I'm just wondering what the actual ROE (rules of engagement) is for armed, on duty policemen.

No, no, I am being serious, they will be there somewhere.

In LOS everyone knows everyone..... For sure the BiB that attended know these shits are BiB offspring........Sure....

Of that i have little doubt.

But my question was what were the actual rules where an armed policeman in Thailand can use lethal force.

They (ROE) differ greatly throughout the world, but the majority of the rules are based on something like 'if your own life or the life of others is in imminent danger by others..'.

It is obviously the call of the armed officer (he will be the one facing criminal charges if he gets it wrong) but it does make you wonder why shots were fired into the air (regardless of the danger of what goes up must come down) instead of shots fired at assailants (attacking someone with swords <deleted>) to save the life of the victim.

What I want to know is what do the police think when they fire in the air? The rounds (bullets) never come back down?

[alfalfa19]

I want to be sure that I understand this correctly. These 6 cockroaches went out and got likkered up. Then they armed themselves with machetes and samurai swords. Then, spoiling for a fight, they got on their scooters and went out looking for trouble. Then, they hacked to death a lone, unarmed, handicapped man. Is this the scenario? Looking at their faces, I can't detect any trace of remorse or regret. They just look pissed off at having to be on public display.

Edited May 4, 2016 by alfalfa19

[anto]

>>Two on the table and one in the policeman's right hand (I think) reference the picture in post #42.<<

Correct .

>>Can only see 5 occupied chairs though for the accused............................. <<

The 6 th was in Hospital being treated for a cut arm .

[balo]

They will probably get out on bail and asked by their parents to enter the monkhood for a few years to cleanse their soul . After a few years as monks they will be forgiven .

Edited May 5, 2016 by balo

[JonnyF]

I want to be sure that I understand this correctly. These 6 cockroaches went out and got likkered up. Then they armed themselves with machetes and samurai swords. Then, spoiling for a fight, they got on their scooters and went out looking for trouble. Then, they hacked to death a lone, unarmed, handicapped man. Is this the scenario? Looking at their faces, I can't detect any trace of remorse or regret. They just look pissed off at having to be on public display.

From the video I saw inside the shop, the disabled man (he had a pretty bad limp but was by no means a "cripple") ran into the shop to get a sword/machete and then ran back out onto the street with the weapon after someone else (I assume a family member ?) had shooed the gang out of the shop as they tried to follow the disabled man in. I don't know what happened prior to that or if he was already injured at that point but I couldn't see any obvious injury on the video. The disabled man arming himself with a machete before going back out onto the street also provides a possible explanation as to why one of the gang had a badly cut arm, unless the gang started turning on themselves or were extremely clumsy during the attack.

So I'm not sure the scenario was exactly how you described it.

Disclaimer; I am in no way blaming the victim nor am I defending this disgusting and vicious attack, I'm just describing what I saw on the video for those who haven't seen it. FWIW I live a couple of kms from where this attack took place and have found it extremely disturbing on many levels.

[scorecard]

Most of us know they are 100% guilty. But in any country they can only be officially termed suspects until found guilty in court of law. (I it gets that far). To officially term them guilty prior being found guilty, will only give their defence lawyers a loophole to dismiss the case. Sad but true.

Also note that it is illegal in Thailand for the police to 'parade' suspects like in the attached photo post #42.

As already said until the case has been fully processed in an appropriate hearing / court they are suspects who have not been found guilty. But the police continue to do it every day.

Just proves:

- The lack of credibility / knowledge of law on the part of police seniors / lack of professional police work according to law.

- The lack of credibility of the media, who claim to have reformed themselves, they know this is illegal but they continue to do it every day.

[Wilsonandson]

The police children claim self defence.

Post #84 might be spot on!

[GeckosDiving]

Like farther like son !! The apple doesn't fall to far from the tree !! These ​kids​ adults are brought up this way make NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT​........ ​

[Wilsonandson]

Why don't they keep the same news story in just one thread. Up and down searching for comments, information and photos, videos. God its hard work.

[Wilsonandson]

Video of the attack from another camera.

[Wilsonandson]

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1462443908

‘I Watched Him as He Died,’ Witness to Disabled Man’s Murder Recalls

BANGKOK — Ananchai Chaiyadech was working in his office Sunday morning. Outside, a group of young men who had been drinking for six hours passed a bread stall and taunted the disabled man working there.

“They were so drunk, you could see it in their eyes,” said the lawyer, estimating they drank from 2am until 8am.

That man, Somkiat Srichan, took offense and shouted back. Ananchai felt both powerless and horrified by what happened next, as he watched the six men use knives and bricks to stab and beat Somkiat, who lacked the use of one leg and tried hopping away, to death in the street.

Suspected Killers of Disabled Man Related to Police

“Can you imagine seeing someone you know being murdered right in front of you?” Ananchai said. “He kept backing off. He was fleeing for his life. He was cornered in the end, but I couldn’t help him.”

Several of the suspects continued slashing at Somkiat’s lifeless body, according to a police report of the incident, when officers arrived at the scene, prompting them to fire shots into the air to get control of the situation.

Four of the six men arrested for Somkiat’s murder were sons of police officers. The entire thing was recorded by a nearby mobile phone camera. That footage went viral after it was posted on social media, drawing widespread attention to the case.

“In my 31 years as a lawyer, I had never seen a person killing another person before,” said Ananchai, who is now involved in the case as both lawyer and witness. “And I couldn’t do anything to help him.”

The six suspects are Arin Yodponganan, 20; Peerapol Yodponganan, 20; Monmanat Sangpho, 22; Akkaradet Thatsana, 22; Mek Polkraisorn, 19; and Jatuporn Chansopha, 18.

Because of his direct experience of the crime, Ananchai said he is now considered a key witness in the criminal investigation.

“I watched him before he died, I watched him as he died, and I watched him after he died,” he said.

In fact, Ananchai said, he’s the only witness to come forward, as other residents in the area are too scared of possible retaliation from the police.

“Usually, people are already scared of one police officer’s son, and in this case, there are four,” Ananchai said. “People just want to go on with their lives normally.”

The suspects at Monday news conference at Choke Chai Police Station

Nevertheless, the lawyer, who is providing legal counsel to Somkiat’s family, said some people have contacted him via Facebook and sent pictures and footage of the murder to be used as evidence in the upcoming trial.

For their part, police said they will be impartial in the investigation, despite some of the suspects’ family ties to the force.

“I am not taking this lightly,” Sanit Mahathavorn, interim chief of Metropolitan Police Bureau, said at yesterday’s news conference. “It is said that the law is here to protect good people and, at the same time, the law is here to prosecute all wrongdoers, no matter who they are.”

Lt. Gen. Sanit added, “In this case, police are ready to be fair to all sides. There won’t be any privileges.”

All of the six suspects have been denied bail and are currently held at Bangkok Remand Prison to await trial, Ananchai said.

He also expressed concern that a girlfriend of one of the six accused murderers verbally abused and threatened members of Somkiat’s family at the hospital just after his murder.

“She mocked the deceased at the hospital, she said, ‘Serves him right, it’s good that he died,’ and she said, ‘If anything happens to my boyfriend, you will be in trouble,’” Ananchai said.

Suspects escorted to criminal court on Tuesday

Screenshots of what was presented as a Facebook page of the girl, filled with derogatory remarks about Somkiat, have also been shared online, but the page’s authenticity is doubtful. It appears to have been created after the murder, using photos lifted from the girl’s Instagram account which went inactive over a year ago.

Police withheld her name, saying she was a minor.

Chairop Chunnawat, commander of Chokchai Police Station, told reporters the girl has already been interrogated.

He said it’s still too early to say when the case can be sent to prosecutors, citing the need to collect more evidence and witnesses.

Teeranai Charuvastra[/media]

Edited May 5, 2016 by Wilsonandson

[phycokiller]

they would have been doing this for years, although maybe not killed too many people. just the first time it got caught on camera

[JAG]

" He said it’s still too early to say when the case can be sent to prosecutors, citing the need to collect more evidence and witnesses."

Given that this lawyer chappie is the only witness who is prepared to testify, for the very good reason that the others are too scared to', and the police say they need to collect more evidence and witnesses before they can send it up for prosecution, I rather suspect that this case has entered the downward spiral.

[z42]

Very disconcerting when officials talk about giving "fair treatment" for people who are unequivocally implicated in the brutal murder of a disabled man.

I smell another fix up / cover up in the making. Disgraceful

Ridiculous distortion of the statement by police.

Acting metro police chief Lt.Gen. Sanit Mahatavorn said at a press conference Monday afternoon that although four of the six suspects are related to police officers, the case will proceed with fair treatment

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1462258962

Behave yourself sunshine.

Just what exactly do you think the spokesman is getting at?

Experience has shown that when police bigwigs start talking about fair treatment in cases involving vip's and connected people. The case grinds to a halt and becomes intentionally over complicated.

Or are you going to predict these guys will go through a swift trial with death sentences meted out