Duck Farm

[Cockwomble]

Me and Missus Cockwomble, are just about to move out to the boonies.

We havd got a lot of family land, and we are going to do a bit of farming, and food selling.

We have bought some pigs, buffalo , chickens and ducks. Our plan is to use the livestock to make a living. Our land also is on a busy highway, so we will have a eatery that cooks our produce. Missus CW thinks Duck should be our menu specialty, though i would like to get some goats to breed and serve goat curry.

I reckon this is a good opportunity as route 21 is a busy one.

Anyone with suggestion, as i want to have a bench mark in highway service stations.

Looks like a good idead from Missus CW and her family

[cyberfarang]

How do you intend to get around the legalities, because Farlangs are not allowed to own land and farms.

[bendejo]

I think it would be wise to do some research regarding Thai people's appreciation of goat curry. Then again there are styles of curry. I don't think I've ever seen thick India-style curries served in a Thai restaurant (Bkk/Pattaya/Phuket doesn't count).

Farming is a lot of work. So is running a food service business. (I know more about the latter than the former) Having to throw away so much food is a heartbreaker.

What part of Thailand?

[smokie36]

I think duck krapow is the next big thing...but you have to make sure the meat is lean....exercise those little birdies Cockwomble!

Overall though having a Coffee World next door is the key here....we all love a queue after all!

[sipi]

Ducks can be nasty peckers. You might want to train a dog to keep them in line.

[colinneil]

I think that ducks are a quaking good idea.

[Cockwomble]

How do you intend to get around the legalities, because Farlangs are not allowed to own land and farms.

We have spoken to a law company in Pattaya that advertise on here. Theyve been very helpful and all seems in hand.

[robblok]

How do you intend to get around the legalities, because Farlangs are not allowed to own land and farms.

We have spoken to a law company in Pattaya that advertise on here. Theyve been very helpful and all seems in hand.

I would not trust that too much, farming is a Thai only reserved occupation and owning land in a company for farming is not allowed. Of course the lawyer stands to profit from you doing so.

I would do some own research if I were you.

If your wife is Thai, and the operation is not large scale you might get around it. (100% foreign.. i doubt it)

Edited May 29, 2016 by robblok

[Cockwomble]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

[meatboy]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

its all in the lawyers hand,you can be sure of that,but doesnt it scare you that missusus cockwomble's brother is involved.

be carefull or you might have PROBLEMS.

[Toknarok]

I'd do some research as to what type of duck you will be rearing. For meat (a Muscovie type) or eggs (a Khaki Cambell type) there are lots of others. Bear in mind ducks can be very susceptible to disease (I once lost dozens overnight) and egg layers moult when they don't lay for weeks.

Good luck.

[Cockwomble]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

its all in the lawyers hand,you can be sure of that,but doesnt it scare you that missusus cockwomble's brother is involved.

be carefull or you might have PROBLEMS.

Her brother seems like a good chap, and when I am away offshore he keeps an eye out for Missus CW

[tuonsai]

I had some European friends in Cambodia who started a duck farm at a small lake near Phnom Penh. They purchased something like 900 ducklings and spent all their money and time raising them,

thinking it would give them a huge payout when the grown ducks are sold. After a few weeks and thousands of dollars spent, It turned out they had been lied to and the ducks they were raising were not saleable. They

were the wrong type of duck. It was a huge disaster and these guys lost all their money and were kicked out of Cambodia. So be sure to get the right duck.

[exbikey]

Could I suggest you follow this through on the Farming section?

[NanLaew]

Ducks. Brother in law. Foreign lawyer. Overseas worker.

Are there any bridges on "route 21"?

[cyberfarang]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

its all in the lawyers hand,you can be sure of that,but doesnt it scare you that missusus cockwomble's brother is involved.

be carefull or you might have PROBLEMS.

Her brother seems like a good chap, and when I am away offshore he keeps an eye out for Missus CW

HE IS HER BROTHER? And hope it`s only an eye he is keeping on her. I still say a Farlang is not allowed to own a farm. My girlfriend wanted us to rent her brother`s 7 rai of land to grow and sell lum yai fruit. We will make a fortune I was told. I asked if it`s so good then why doesn`t her brother grow the fruit himself? Because he hasn`t got money to start it. Did not need to hire a lawyer it was easy to look it all up on the Internet. Everything said with loud alarm bells ringing, Farlang run or own farm in Thailand, CANNOT.

I would be interested in running a lum yai farm but do not want problems or be in a situation where I have to trust other people. Please point me in a direction anywhere on the Internet where it clearly says, a Farlang can get involved in agriculture in Thailand and under what circumstances?

[sipi]

Try mangoes.

[smokie36]

I'm glad to hear you are not being fleeced by some crooked Thai lawyer Cockwomble....maybe you should consider a farang style bar alongside your restaurant?

A quick cookery class or two and your wife will be whipping up duck a l'orange in no time!

[blackcab]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

its all in the lawyers hand,you can be sure of that,but doesnt it scare you that missusus cockwomble's brother is involved.

be carefull or you might have PROBLEMS.

Her brother seems like a good chap, and when I am away offshore he keeps an eye out for Missus CW

HE IS HER BROTHER? And hope it`s only an eye he is keeping on her. I still say a Farlang is not allowed to own a farm. My girlfriend wanted us to rent her brother`s 7 rai of land to grow and sell lum yai fruit. We will make a fortune I was told. I asked if it`s so good then why doesn`t her brother grow the fruit himself? Because he hasn`t got money to start it. Did not need to hire a lawyer it was easy to look it all up on the Internet. Everything said with loud alarm bells ringing, Farlang run or own farm in Thailand, CANNOT.

I would be interested in running a lum yai farm but do not want problems or be in a situation where I have to trust other people. Please point me in a direction anywhere on the Internet where it clearly says, a Farlang can get involved in agriculture in Thailand and under what circumstances?

You could more than likely be employed as a Business Development Manager by agricultural company, but that is a different scenario than cultivating a few rai.

[cyberfarang]

You could more than likely be employed as a Business Development Manager by agricultural company, but that is a different scenario than cultivating a few rai.

That’s right, I looked into that. And that’s if it gets the approval of a Thai government scheme when some expect knowledge is needed, like a specialist engineer or agricultural expert mostly to do with water irrigation, flood prevention and crop growing, like a contract between a government approved Thai company and a foreign company that sends in a team or an expert for the job. I don’t think any old Farlang is allowed to set up a farm without Thai government approval and I know there are loads of conditions put on this and why I went against the idea of a lum yai farm with my girlfriend and her family. All I want to see is something official and in writing that says Farlangs can dabble in Thailand agricultural work. I also won`t buy land and a house or get married unless I`m guaranteed I can`t get thrown off and lose all my money.

SHOW ME OTHERWISE?

[Cockwomble]

I'm glad to hear you are not being fleeced by some crooked Thai lawyer Cockwomble....maybe you should consider a farang style bar alongside your restaurant?

A quick cookery class or two and your wife will be whipping up duck a l'orange in no time!

Ira more of aservice station concept, bit like the Little Chef, but we use our own produce.

The American lawyer has bewn very helpful with company structuring.

[Cockwomble]

You could more than likely be employed as a Business Development Manager by agricultural company, but that is a different scenario than cultivating a few rai.

Thats right, I looked into that. And thats if it gets the approval of a Thai government scheme when some expect knowledge is needed, like a specialist engineer or agricultural expert mostly to do with water irrigation, flood prevention and crop growing, like a contract between a government approved Thai company and a foreign company that sends in a team or an expert for the job. I dont think any old Farlang is allowed to set up a farm without Thai government approval and I know there are loads of conditions put on this and why I went against the idea of a lum yai farm with my girlfriend and her family. All I want to see is something official and in writing that says Farlangs can dabble in Thailand agricultural work. I also won`t buy land and a house or get married unless I`m guaranteed I can`t get thrown off and lose all my money.

SHOW ME OTHERWISE?

I perwonally wont be farming, i will really be the business development guy / investor.

[tolsti]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

That would make me very afraid given the experiences of people in Pattaya

[Truscott]

I've been on farms all my life and I would say that cows are better animals than ducks.

Got to love that country smell.

[Cockwomble]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

That would make me very afraid given the experiences of people in Pattaya

They do advertise here so they must be legit

[cyberfarang]

You could more than likely be employed as a Business Development Manager by agricultural company, but that is a different scenario than cultivating a few rai.

Thats right, I looked into that. And thats if it gets the approval of a Thai government scheme when some expect knowledge is needed, like a specialist engineer or agricultural expert mostly to do with water irrigation, flood prevention and crop growing, like a contract between a government approved Thai company and a foreign company that sends in a team or an expert for the job. I dont think any old Farlang is allowed to set up a farm without Thai government approval and I know there are loads of conditions put on this and why I went against the idea of a lum yai farm with my girlfriend and her family. All I want to see is something official and in writing that says Farlangs can dabble in Thailand agricultural work. I also won`t buy land and a house or get married unless I`m guaranteed I can`t get thrown off and lose all my money.

SHOW ME OTHERWISE?

I perwonally wont be farming, i will really be the business development guy / investor.

You can`t do that and I`ll argue that case until the ducks come home.

Edited May 29, 2016 by cyberfarang

[Cockwomble]

Tell me why i cant invest money into it?

[smokie36]

I can do you a great deal on Craft beers...a big seller amongst the farang biking community.

Is there a garage nearby your property?

[tolsti]

Thanks Roblok, the lawyer company have been very good, and i think its owned by an American. Missusus cockwomble and her brother have been sorting most of it out, so dont think much problems.

That would make me very afraid given the experiences of people in Pattaya

They do advertise here so they must be legit

Oh dear...

[cyberfarang]

Tell me why i cant invest money into it?

https://www.samuiforsale.com/knowledge/thai-business-law.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/9413075/Expats-warned-of-illegal-home-crackdown-in-Thailand.html

http://www.thailand-lawyer.com/thailand-shareholders.html

http://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/knowledge/publications/73019/an-overview-of-the-thailand-foreign-business-act-be-2542

Businesses Foreigners cannot engage in for special reasons

1. Newspaper publishing, radio or television broadcasting
2. Rice farming, arable farming or orchard farming
3. Rearing livestock
4. Forestry and the processing of wood from forests (naturally grown)
5. Fishery, only in relation to marine life in Thai waters and the specific economic zone
6. Extraction of Thai medicinal herbs
7. Trading and auctioning of Thai antiques or antiques which are of historical value to the country
8. Manufacture or casting of Buddha images and alms bowls
9. Trade in real property

Edited May 29, 2016 by cyberfarang