SoFarAndNear Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Hi, I bought myself a second hand Mazda 3 2.0L (2012 Model). I was absolutely shocked to see the fuel consumption. Bangkok city stop and go traffic is around 16L/100km fuel consumption. When I drive constantly with 100km/h on the highway I can lower to 6.5L/100km but Bangkok Stop and Go rush hour is a nightmare. I can literally watch the fuel bar moving down. Is this normal behavior for a 2L car in City traffic? My last car was a Honda Jazz 1.5L. The Honda uses maybe half of that. Edited June 7, 2016 by SoFarAndNear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I assume you mean IN Bangkok....my honda 2.0 2004 model around Nonthaburi gets about 9-10km/l...16L/100 km is a LOT, but not unexpected if you never get much about 40 km/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 My 2.5ltr pickup easily uses twice as much diesel in trafic than on the open road. Possibly three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredob43 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Seems about right for a Mazda3 2lt. They have always been heavy on fuel. Friend of mine had a new one about 2012 and we used to go on trips together. My Fortuner Spivo always used about half what his Mazda consumed. Yes I know that mine is a Diesel against his Petrol but it shouldn't have been that far apart. Sorry to say think you'll just have to live with it, or do what my chum did and sell it. There is a good part they are quite nippy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWW Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I drive my 3.2L Ford Ranger to work and back across Bangkok every working day (55km round trip), and consumption is around 12-13L/100km, which I think is awful. It goes down to around 8L/100km on a long journey. Yes, it's a diesel not petrol, but it's a 5-cylinder 3.2L engine. 16L/100km is around 6km/litre, which is frankly awful. I thought my truck was bad at 8km/litre, and it's a constant sore point with my wife who has a Prius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) I wish there was a standard fuel consumption measure - L/100km, km/L, MPG (Imperial and US), makes comparison difficult. My Ford's consumption is obviously bad around Pattaya, driving from one set of traffic lights to another, with an average speed of 14 mph. Out on a long trip makes a big difference. Edited June 8, 2016 by Henryford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 km/l is the easiest as any dumb person will understand that for each L you get that many KM out of the car. Miles per galon is useless as most of the world has no idea what the hell is a mile and l/100km requires mathematics to understand how many km you get out of 1 liter of fuel which again makes it completely stupid. Km/l i put 24b i get 15km, easy to underrstand l/100km i put 24b, how many km's do i get out of my 24b? no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacChang Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 When someone talks in km/l, I talk to them and help them. When someone says something else, I shrug my shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'm picking up a new Mazda 3 2L SP next week, with all the modern electronics, so it'll be interesting to see how it goes - at least for me whose last car in Oz, before arriving here late last year, was a 2003 Holden Calais (ie Dark Ages by today's standards, but a splendid, large & reliable drive on Canberra's luxury roads and up & down the Hume Hgwy). Here I will drive mostly in rural Thailand (Surin & nearby) so I expect the fuel consumption should be OK. I hope never to drive in BKK, though that's always going to be a threat on the horizon. Now I just have to teach my partner to drive (sigh!) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 km/l is the easiest as any dumb person will understand that for each L you get that many KM out of the car. Miles per galon is useless as most of the world has no idea what the hell is a mile and l/100km requires mathematics to understand how many km you get out of 1 liter of fuel which again makes it completely stupid. Km/l i put 24b i get 15km, easy to underrstand l/100km i put 24b, how many km's do i get out of my 24b? no idea Most of the civilised world uses mpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelSong Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 A to B is 400 km: How many L do I need ? 6L / 100 km : 24 L , easy 16.6 km/l : no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggy Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 FYI, my Focus 2.0 (2013) is used almost solely in Bangkok and I get 11.5l/100km (8.7km/l, 24.5mpg) or thereabouts. When I have taken it on a run I get about 7l/100km (14.1km/l, 40mpg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) km/l is the easiest as any dumb person will understand that for each L you get that many KM out of the car. Miles per galon is useless as most of the world has no idea what the hell is a mile and l/100km requires mathematics to understand how many km you get out of 1 liter of fuel which again makes it completely stupid. Km/l i put 24b i get 15km, easy to underrstand l/100km i put 24b, how many km's do i get out of my 24b? no idea Most of the civilised world uses mpg. Ah yes, with different measurements for gallons and for miles. BTW, according to Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile: While most countries replaced the mile with the kilometere when switching to the International System of Units, the international mile continues to be used in some countries, such as Liberia, Myanmar, the United Kingdom, the United States, and a number of countries with less than a million inhabitants, most of which are UK or US territories, or have close historical ties with the UK or US. Edited June 8, 2016 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstarbkk Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 My 2015 Mazda 3 2.0L does about 11L/100km in heavy city traffic and around 6L/100km on the highway. I believe 2012 was pre Skyactiv technology, so there would be a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 km/l is the easiest as any dumb person will understand that for each L you get that many KM out of the car. Miles per galon is useless as most of the world has no idea what the hell is a mile and l/100km requires mathematics to understand how many km you get out of 1 liter of fuel which again makes it completely stupid. Km/l i put 24b i get 15km, easy to underrstand l/100km i put 24b, how many km's do i get out of my 24b? no idea Most of the civilised world uses mpg. Stupid Post......There is also a world outside USA ............this is the civilised World and they use Liter/ 100Km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 My 2015 Mazda 3 2.0L does about 11L/100km in heavy city traffic and around 6L/100km on the highway. I believe 2012 was pre Skyactiv technology, so there would be a difference. Hi, yes I did read a lot today. The new SkyActiv Models have around 30% better fuel consumption. As someone else already wrote, I have to live with it or sell the car. I did not expect that this would make such a big difference to my old Honda Jazz (2011). The performance is not that much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) I'm finding it difficult to follow exactly what the fuel is costing in a few posts. Every time I change my car I check the cost of the fuel by filling the tank up to the brim, do my journey and fill it up again upon my return. As I put my tripometer at 0000 when leaving I know exactly what the journey cost me. Divide the Klms into the price of the fuel and easily to tell what I paid for every Klm. I do the same when driving around town and that usually works out about half a baht more per Klm. Edited June 8, 2016 by dotpoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwinfc Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 A to B is 400 km: How many L do I need ? 6L / 100 km : 24 L , easy 16.6 km/l : no idea perhaps it would be easier if your A-B distance is 78.4 km and consumption is at 9.8L/100km. how many liters will you need? i can tell you won't need a calculator for that. i find km/L more useful because i care more about the baht that leaves my wallet than the amount of gas that goes into the tank. let's say i'm travelling at a consumption rate of 12.4 km/L. price of the gas i use is 23.25 baht/L, so i'm burning a little less than 2 baht for each kilometer i cover. i don't race or drive F1, so the amount of fuel i need to travel X distance is irrelevant. cost is a more practical information to know while operating or maintaining a vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siamcrut Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 If a car owner these days can't distinguish fuel consumption between lt/km, km/lt or mpg maybe then it's time to get a <deleted>$&ing smartphone. and that was my modest way to express my 2 cents on that topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelSong Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 perhaps it would be easier if your A-B distance is 78.4 km and consumption is at 9.8L/100km. how many liters will you need? i can tell you won't need a calculator for that. Very easy: 9.8L is an average, to stay on the safe side I would take 10l. same for the distance, could be 80km. So would need 8 l. The cost is interesting to know , but says nothing about fuel consumption. 8l is 8l, if today it costs 200thb , next month maybe 300thb. It also depends on the area, the petrol station , price of crude oil etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Why don't you input your fuel data into fuelly.com ...then you will have complete records and it calculates km/L L/km mpg or whatever units you want. See my usage on there ... same handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelSong Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Thanks for the info JAS21, just what I needed, I will try it ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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