webfact Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 N. Korea: US has crossed red line, relations on war footingERIC TALMADGE, Associated PressPYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) — North Korea's top diplomat for U.S. affairs told The Associated Press Thursday that Washington "crossed the red line" and effectively declared war by putting leader Kim Jong Un on its list of sanctioned individuals, and said a vicious showdown could erupt if the U.S. and South Korea hold annual war games as planned next month.Han Song Ryol, director-general of the U.S. affairs department at the North's Foreign Ministry, said in an interview that recent U.S. actions have put the situation on the Korean Peninsula on a war footing.The United States and South Korea regularly conduct joint military exercises south of the Demilitarized Zone, and Pyongyang typically responds to them with tough talk and threats of retaliation.Han said North Korea believes the nature of the maneuvers has become openly aggressive because they reportedly now include training designed to prepare troops for the invasion of the North's capital and "decapitation strikes" aimed at killing its top leadership.Han says designating Kim himself for sanctions was the final straw."The Obama administration went so far to have the impudence to challenge the supreme dignity of the DPRK in order to get rid of its unfavorable position during the political and military showdown with the DPRK," Han said, using the acronym for North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea."The United States has crossed the red line in our showdown," he said. "We regard this thrice-cursed crime as a declaration of war."Although North Korea had already been heavily sanctioned internationally for its nuclear weapons and long-range missile development programs, Washington's announcement on July 6 was the first time Kim Jong Un has been personally sanctioned.Less than a week later, Pyongyang cut off its final official means of communications with Washington — known as the New York channel. Han said Pyongyang has made it clear that everything between the two must now be dealt with under "war law."Kim and 10 others were put on the list of sanctioned individuals in connection with alleged human rights abuses, documented by the United Nations Human Rights Commission, that include a network of political prisons and harsh treatment of any kind of political dissent in the authoritarian state. U.S. State Department officials said the sanctions were intended in part to highlight those responsible for the abuses and to pressure lower-ranking officials to think twice before carrying them out.-- (c) Associated Press 2016-07-28
lovelomsak Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Well is this not interesting. How can the political correct fix this? Will there be real war? Can this be the catalyst for war between China and America? Will China back North Korea?Would America go to combat with North Korea? So many unanswered questions I think.
anotheruser Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 The US would probably just drop a load of bombs on them.
RKASA Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Gee - the Chinese must be in need of a distraction (again) - as normally is the case when NK speaks. Wonder what's up down South - at any rate I am sure of one thing - It is George Bush's fault - I read it online - so it must be true.
dick dasterdly Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 . The two emoticons sum up my thoughts on the idiot's comments.
than Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Well is this not interesting. How can the political correct fix this? Will there be real war? Can this be the catalyst for war between China and America? Will China back North Korea?Would America go to combat with North Korea? So many unanswered questions I think. Technicality, NKOREA is still in war with United Nation Countries, because no peace treaty was sign between the 2 belligerent in 1953
lovelomsak Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Well is this not interesting. How can the political correct fix this? Will there be real war? Can this be the catalyst for war between China and America? Will China back North Korea?Would America go to combat with North Korea? So many unanswered questions I think. Technicality, NKOREA is still in war with United Nation Countries, because no peace treaty was sign between the 2 belligerent in 1953 Thanks for that but I was aware they are technicaily still at war. What I was wondering will this bring real war back. If the sabre rattling was over and time for combat on the ground and air and sea. China is pushing for war so why not little brother.join in and help start it.
Ricardo Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Perhaps if NK stopped launching ballistic-missiles, the Rest of the World would be less-inclined, to 'go ballistic' ?
NovaBlue05 Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 I safely transited through ICN two weeks ago. Just in the nick of time I guess
Berkshire Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Well is this not interesting. How can the political correct fix this? Will there be real war? Can this be the catalyst for war between China and America? Will China back North Korea?Would America go to combat with North Korea? So many unanswered questions I think. Technicality, NKOREA is still in war with United Nation Countries, because no peace treaty was sign between the 2 belligerent in 1953 Thanks for that but I was aware they are technicaily still at war. What I was wondering will this bring real war back. If the sabre rattling was over and time for combat on the ground and air and sea. China is pushing for war so why not little brother.join in and help start it. Are you seriously losing sleep over this? I honestly wish the western press would just ignore this guy. N. Korea is not going to do anything. They're just making noise to get economic aid. Give Dear Leader some crumbs and he'll happily shut up.
RickBradford Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 Go on then, Pillsbury Doughboy, start a war somehow. Bring it on. Just see how quickly you get turned into a large crater.
Pinot Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 No China will not go to war over North Korea. North Korea is a pain in the ass for everyone including China.
Chicog Posted July 28, 2016 Posted July 28, 2016 China wouldn't give a toss about the US flattening Pyongyang, as long as they are the ones to come in and "rebuild". Not sure what the neighbours would think though.
DoctorG Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I safely transited through ICN two weeks ago. Just in the nick of time I guess I will be there in October. I am not worried. The North are always making threats.
baboon Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 Well is this not interesting. How can the political correct fix this? Will there be real war? Can this be the catalyst for war between China and America? Will China back North Korea?Would America go to combat with North Korea? So many unanswered questions I think. Technicality, NKOREA is still in war with United Nation Countries, because no peace treaty was sign between the 2 belligerent in 1953 Thanks for that but I was aware they are technicaily still at war. What I was wondering will this bring real war back. If the sabre rattling was over and time for combat on the ground and air and sea. China is pushing for war so why not little brother.join in and help start it.It isn't going to happen. Despite what you read, the DPRK is run by rational human beings who know the limitations of what they can and can't do.Bear in mind they will also be putting the feelers out to see what they will be dealing with in the next American president, too. Don't lose any sleep over this.
IAMHERE Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 If China was willing to go into NK and 'straighten out' that country I'd be willing to trade them the South China Sea. In any case enough western deaths have occurred for that part of the world already so no more please.
williamgeorgeallen Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 yanks wasted all their military effort on destroying Iraq. should have gone into north korea, taken it over and handed it over to south korea. problem solved.
baboon Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 yanks wasted all their military effort on destroying Iraq. should have gone into north korea, taken it over and handed it over to south korea. problem solved.Quite. Just look at the success stories of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Asiantravel Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I worry that "gung ho " Americans will once again underestimate the capability of their enemies ( just like they did in Vietnam) The Threat Is Real And Imminent: The Next World War Will Be Initiated By A First Strike Utilizing An EMP Weapon “I believe they [the North Koreans] have the capability to have miniaturized the [nuclear] device at this point, and they have the technology to potentially, actually deliver what they say they have.Dr. Peter V. Pry, the foremost expert on EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) threats by established and rogue nations has long upheld that Iran and North Korea hold an EMP first strike as central to their current military doctrines. Pry has spent countless hours briefing Senate Investigating Committees on the dangers of an EMP strike by these two nations.” http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-threat-is-real-and-imminent-the-next-world-war-will-be-initiated-by-a-first-strike-utilizing-an-emp-weapon_07262016
williamgeorgeallen Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 yanks wasted all their military effort on destroying Iraq. should have gone into north korea, taken it over and handed it over to south korea. problem solved.Quite. Just look at the success stories of Iraq and Afghanistan. comparing apples with donkeys testicles. americans won both those wars but they fell down with the end game. south korea could absorb north korea, might be some hard times to begin but there would be a considerable net benefit to both countries and the world in general. i sometimes wonder if america just keeps north korea ticking along to keep the general public distracted from domestic problems.
halloween Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 All communication under 'war law' - is that like the slogans ground crew paint on bombs? BTW not sure that perverted midget with the bad haircut could be described as 'rational'.
ilostmypassword Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I worry that "gung ho " Americans will once again underestimate the capability of their enemies ( just like they did in Vietnam) The Threat Is Real And Imminent: The Next World War Will Be Initiated By A First Strike Utilizing An EMP Weapon “I believe they [the North Koreans] have the capability to have miniaturized the [nuclear] device at this point, and they have the technology to potentially, actually deliver what they say they have.Dr. Peter V. Pry, the foremost expert on EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) threats by established and rogue nations has long upheld that Iran and North Korea hold an EMP first strike as central to their current military doctrines. Pry has spent countless hours briefing Senate Investigating Committees on the dangers of an EMP strike by these two nations.” http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-threat-is-real-and-imminent-the-next-world-war-will-be-initiated-by-a-first-strike-utilizing-an-emp-weapon_07262016 Their armed forces are still so weak that even with an EMP they wouldn't stand a chance. That said, they do have nuclear weapons. So I don't see why American troops are stationed there at all. In the face of a nuclear bomb, our troops aren't soldiers, they're potential hostages. China is the world's 2nd largest economy, Japan is the 3rd, and South Korea is also prosperous and well armed. They all have vital interests in keeping North Korea subdued. No need for the USA to be stationed there at all.
NovaBlue05 Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I safely transited through ICN two weeks ago. Just in the nick of time I guess I will be there in October. I am not worried. The North are always making threats Thanks...I was being a bit facetious though
Srikcir Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 "decapitation strikes" aimed at killing its top leadership Note to Kim Jong Un - this means you.
2fishin2 Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I worry that "gung ho " Americans will once again underestimate the capability of their enemies ( just like they did in Vietnam) The Threat Is Real And Imminent: The Next World War Will Be Initiated By A First Strike Utilizing An EMP Weapon “I believe they [the North Koreans] have the capability to have miniaturized the [nuclear] device at this point, and they have the technology to potentially, actually deliver what they say they have.Dr. Peter V. Pry, the foremost expert on EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) threats by established and rogue nations has long upheld that Iran and North Korea hold an EMP first strike as central to their current military doctrines. Pry has spent countless hours briefing Senate Investigating Committees on the dangers of an EMP strike by these two nations.” http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-threat-is-real-and-imminent-the-next-world-war-will-be-initiated-by-a-first-strike-utilizing-an-emp-weapon_07262016 Their armed forces are still so weak that even with an EMP they wouldn't stand a chance. That said, they do have nuclear weapons. So I don't see why American troops are stationed there at all. In the face of a nuclear bomb, our troops aren't soldiers, they're potential hostages. China is the world's 2nd largest economy, Japan is the 3rd, and South Korea is also prosperous and well armed. They all have vital interests in keeping North Korea subdued. No need for the USA to be stationed there at all. Deterrence. Support. If the US wasn't there, a peninsula war would have happened many years ago.
billd766 Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 Gee - the Chinese must be in need of a distraction (again) - as normally is the case when NK speaks. Wonder what's up down South - at any rate I am sure of one thing - It is George Bush's fault - I read it online - so it must be true. I thought it had something to do with the Brexit. Brexit is being blamed for everything else, so why not this.
NumbNut Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I hope it doesn't come down to a march off, we're rooted Don't know about you blokes, but I'm surrendering to the Navy... go NAVY!!! The song is a laugh too
neverdie Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 I hope it doesn't come down to a march off, we're rooted Don't know about you blokes, but I'm surrendering to the Navy... go NAVY!!! The song is a laugh too Yeah you'd get a few shots away in that ship Yeeeehaaaaaa What's this about again? War with fat boy spitting dummy again. Yawn !
ilostmypassword Posted July 29, 2016 Posted July 29, 2016 yanks wasted all their military effort on destroying Iraq. should have gone into north korea, taken it over and handed it over to south korea. problem solved. The USA tried that once. China disagreed quite forcefully.
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