Retirement extention based on rental income - Proof

[khrai]

I currently have a Non-Immigrant OA visa. In a few months I would like to apply for an extention of my permission to stay, based on retirement. I am over 50 and my only income is rental income. The properties are located in Belgium and the rent goes to my Belgian bank account. I have learned that I can get an affidavit from my embassy in which I declare to have a rental income of X euro. I will bring copies of the leases and of my bank statements to prove this income at the embassy.

My question concerns the documents that I have to present at Immigration in Bangkok? They won't be happy if I give them copies of these supporting documents which are all in Dutch...

So, does Immigration in Bangkok actually ask any proof regarding the income mentioned on my affidavit? If so, what about the language of the documents? I don't see myself getting a legal translation of the leases, the prove of ownership, the bank statements,....

 

I will ask my bank to write a letter in English ("to whom it may concern"), stating that my account is credited every month with X euros, and that these monthly payments are labelled as "rent". But I am not sure this will be enough.

 

So what are the chances that Bangkok Immigration will want extra proof of this rental income?

[ubonjoe]

Normally all immigration wants to see is the affidavit from you embassy.

There are few offices that may want to see back up proof of it. But Bangkok immigration never does as far as I know.

The best proof is a Thai bank book showing regular transfers into the country.

If you had translated copies of a bank statement from the bank in Belgium showing the funds going into your account that would be accepted.

 

[elviajero]

Highly unlikely.

 

Has the 'O-A' visa already expired? It it doesn't expire for a few months then you can do a border hop and get another 12 month permit to stay.

[khrai]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Normally all immigration wants to see is the affidavit from you embassy.

There are few offices that may want to see back up proof of it. But Bangkok immigration never does as far as I know.

The best proof is a Thai bank book showing regular transfers into the country.

If you had translated copies of a bank statement from the bank in Belgium showing the funds going into your account that would be accepted.

 

OK, so for the off chance that additional proof is needed, I could go for the translated copies of a bank statement.

Would this be in English or Thai? A legal translation by a sworn translater or just an English translation that I vouch for by signing the document? Or would a letter from the bank in English be OK?

[ubonjoe]

10 hours ago, khrai said:

OK, so for the off chance that additional proof is needed, I could go for the translated copies of a bank statement.

Would this be in English or Thai? A legal translation by a sworn translater or just an English translation that I vouch for by signing the document? Or would a letter from the bank in English be OK?

The statement could be translated to Thai or English. It would best if it was done by a certified translator.

If the letter detailed your deposits for a few months it would be accepted.

[Liquorice]

Provided you supply a letter from your Embassy confirming your monthly income, it is highly unlikely Immigration will request to see the evidence of your bank statements you supplied to your Embassy in order to get the 'proof of income' letter for Immigration.

 

Figures on bank statements don't translate either, they are universal.

Where your funds come from should be of no concern to Immigration, just the amount of funds to meet the requirements.

[elviajero]

On 25,August, 2016 at 3:07 PM, khrai said:

OK, so for the off chance that additional proof is needed, I could go for the translated copies of a bank statement.

Would this be in English or Thai? A legal translation by a sworn translater or just an English translation that I vouch for by signing the document? Or would a letter from the bank in English be OK?

I doubt very much that immigration would want to see any of the documents you provide to the Embassy. In the unlikely event that they do want additional proof I think they would want to see evidence of the income being transferred to Thailand. 

[Evilbaz]

Phuket Immi wanted back-up proof to an Australian Embassy income affidavit.

I was also shown a German Embassy affidavit with proof attached as an example.

So I wouldn't be too complacent about this just because it's not in the Police Order.

An IO can request any additional documents he/she wants.

I go prepared to back-up any question answered on the application form.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 25 สิงหาคม 2559 at 8:01 PM, elviajero said:

Highly unlikely.

 

Has the 'O-A' visa already expired? It it doesn't expire for a few months then you can do a border hop and get another 12 month permit to stay.

I'm with you on this. Rental income is not guaranteed, and they require a guaranteed income like a pension.

However, Imm make up rules for extensions all the time, so perhaps they would accept it.

 

Easiest way is to have 800,000 in the bank.

Good luck.

[ubonjoe]

30 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm with you on this. Rental income is not guaranteed, and they require a guaranteed income like a pension.

However, Imm make up rules for extensions all the time, so perhaps they would accept it.

 

Easiest way is to have 800,000 in the bank.

Good luck.

All immigration wants to see is income. They are not concerned where it comes form.

Unless the proof of income from the embassy stated the source of income immigration would have no way of knowing where the income came from.

[khrai]

Update:

 

Got my 'retirement visa' last week. The Belgian embassy did not ask for any proof of the rental income. Nor did the immigration officer at Chaeng Wattana.

 

Also, the only proof of residence I brought was my 6 months condo lease and proof of rental payment from the last 3 months. No other TMxx form, declaration or copy of identity card from the owner.

 

Thank for your advice.