American woman fleeing sexual advances survives horror fall in Krabi

[MissAndry]

3 minutes ago, Mangkhut said:

So who is making it dangerous for females then? Maybe think about that for a while?

 

Having sex is not generally considered dangerous for a female, running about, at night, in the jungle would be considered dangerous by many.

[ClutchClark]

 

4 minutes ago, Mangkhut said:

So who is making it dangerous for females then? Maybe think about that for a while?

 

I am still trying to figure out what you even mean.

[Shawn0000]

49 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Rape or sexual assault ?

 

The requirements for sexual assault claims are quite broad in the US.

 

Rape.

[Penicillin]

Could have easily been rape, robbery and homicide .  What a nightmare situation to find oneself in .  Hope for a speedy and full recovery. 

[Alwyn]

2 hours ago, sahibji said:

what is not is explained is how the police was informed and by whom.

Read the first paragraph again.

[rooster59]

American tourist falls from cliff in Krabi, trying to flee sexual assault

KRABI:-- An American tourist fleeing attempt to molest her fell 45 metres from a cliff at Ao Railay bay in Krabi Thursday night and was seriously injured.

 

The tourist, identified as Ms Hannah Michel Gavios, 23, was later rescued and admitted to Krabi hospital yesterday.

 

A suspect said to molest her was arrested after several small bruises were found on his face and arms.

 

According to Krabi tourist assistance centre chief Nitipat Mongkolpradit, officials at the centre was alerted at 11.00pm on Thursday night that a tourist has fallen from the Railay cliff while she was walking back to her resort at Ao Tonsai bay.

 

The centre then alerted the Nopparat Thara- PP Island national park for help.

 

However rescue team could not locate her because of darkness and steep cliff.

 

It was until daybreak yesterday when the search team found her lying on a rock 15 metres down the 45-metre deep cliff.

 

She was taken to Krabi hospital for treatment after she was found to suffer serious injuries – spinal fracture and spinal cord injury. She could not move her two legs.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/american-tourist-falls-cliff-krabi-trying-flee-sexual-assault/

 

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-03

 

[ClutchClark]

What do the Aussies say?

 

"Good on Ya" ?

 

Respect to the news for updating the title !

[tandor]

4 hours ago, lahgon29 said:

Poor woman...People with broken legs feel pain...Usually lots of it. Sounds as if she has a spinal fracture...thoracic or lumbar...I'd bet London to a brick that she wasn't treated as spinal when she was extricated. I've had experiences with the medical side of the so called emergency services in Thailand...Cowboys.

 

...the volunteers and rescue service do their best with what limited resources that are available..

Im sure the Thai government would appreciate greatly your extensive knowledge and skills..they will even give you a letter to allow you to do volunteer work with emergency services ie fire, police, emergency etc if you already have a RV/MV etc....eeeeehaaaah.

[ClutchClark]

4 minutes ago, tandor said:

 

...the volunteers and rescue service do their best with what limited resources that are available..

Im sure the Thai government would appreciate greatly your extensive knowledge and skills..they will even give you a letter to allow you to do volunteer work with emergency services ie fire, police, emergency etc if you already have a RV/MV etc....eeeeehaaaah.

 

Are you serious?

 

So someone with an EMT (first step of paramedic) license from a State in the US could go out on emergency calls?

[sweatalot]

7 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

That sounds more like she avoided being sexually assaulted than only sexual advances.

 

Cannot feel her legs? This is bad news.

 

bad news it is

[KBsinter]

The article said he had scratches on his body,"wake up folks".....update 

released BRUISES on his body

Edited September 3, 2016 by KBsinter

[sweatalot]

2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Rape or sexual assault ?

 

The requirements for sexual assault claims are quite broad in the US.

 

So you trust statistics ?

 

Sorry clutch my response was aimed at shawn0000. Cannot find his original post anymore

Edited September 3, 2016 by sweatalot

[MissAndry]

2 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

 

So you trust statistics ?

I don't know about statistics, but I wouldn't trust a Thai man alone in the jungle with me if I were 23 years old.

[ClutchClark]

16 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

 

So you trust statistics ?

 

Sorry clutch my response was aimed at shawn0000. Cannot find his original post anymore

 

I was responding to Shawns post as well but it has disappeared.

[sweatalot]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

American tourist falls from cliff in Krabi, trying to flee sexual assault

KRABI:-- An American tourist fleeing attempt to molest her fell 45 metres from a cliff at Ao Railay bay in Krabi Thursday night and was seriously injured.

 

The tourist, identified as Ms Hannah Michel Gavios, 23, was later rescued and admitted to Krabi hospital yesterday.

 

A suspect said to molest her was arrested after several small bruises were found on his face and arms.

 

According to Krabi tourist assistance centre chief Nitipat Mongkolpradit, officials at the centre was alerted at 11.00pm on Thursday night that a tourist has fallen from the Railay cliff while she was walking back to her resort at Ao Tonsai bay.

 

The centre then alerted the Nopparat Thara- PP Island national park for help.

 

However rescue team could not locate her because of darkness and steep cliff.

 

It was until daybreak yesterday when the search team found her lying on a rock 15 metres down the 45-metre deep cliff.

 

She was taken to Krabi hospital for treatment after she was found to suffer serious injuries – spinal fracture and spinal cord injury. She could not move her two legs.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/american-tourist-falls-cliff-krabi-trying-flee-sexual-assault/

 

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-03

 

 

I recommend reading the linked englishnews article. Useful information

[MissAndry]

4 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

 

I recommend reading the linked englishnews article. Useful information

 

Unfortunately there is now a choice of translations. Both linked stories started with the same facts in Thai, but the two translations have used very different English meanings. We've gone from 'sexual advances' in story 1, to 'sexual assault' in story 2. Story 2 has far poorer English, so I'm tempted to believe story 1 is more factually correct, but it's anyone's guess.

 

The problem being, Thai reporters and their translations have no professional standards of oversight.

Edited September 3, 2016 by MissAndry

[fullcave]

8 minutes ago, MissAndry said:

 

Unfortunately there is now a choice of translations. Both linked stories started with the same facts in Thai, but the two translations have used very different English meanings. We've gone from 'sexual advances' in story 1, to 'sexual assault' in story 2. Story 2 has far poorer English, so I'm tempted to believe story 1 is more factually correct, but it's anyone's guess.

 

The problem being, Thai reporters and their translations have no professional standards of oversight.

 

Well it appears you were completely wrong and just made a complete fool of yourself. Poor girl I hope she's alright. Carry on...

Edited September 3, 2016 by fullcave

[ChrisY1]

4 hours ago, Mangkhut said:

Why is dangerous for females?

 

Duh..........and you are from ??

[Shawn0000]

45 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

 

So you trust statistics ?

 

Sorry clutch my response was aimed at shawn0000. Cannot find his original post anymore

 

What exactly are you putting your trust in by disregarding them?  Gut instinct?

[Shawn0000]

20 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

 

Duh..........and you are from ??

 

Duh, you don't get their comment, never mind mate.

[Deepinthailand]

4 hours ago, 12DrinkMore said:

 

If you had bothered to read the article your post would not have been necessary.

 

 

Sexual advances could be as simple as putting your hand on a shoulder. Or asking for a kiss. I wonder if she was pissed or led him on but I will wait for the full story from both sides.

[ClutchClark]

3 minutes ago, Deepinthailand said:

Sexual advances could be as simple as putting your hand on a shoulder. Or asking for a kiss. I wonder if she was pissed or led him on but I will wait for the full story from both sides.

 

He had scratches on his arms from where she tried to free herself.

 

The police already have an admission by the attacker he was aggressive.

 

The police have already received some details from the victim.

 

 

[dunroaming]

Hopefully at some point the lady recovers and is able to say exactly what happened.  All the speculation in the world doesn't mean a thing.

[Deepinthailand]

20 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

He had scratches on his arms from where she tried to free herself.

 

The police already have an admission by the attacker he was aggressive.

 

The police have already received some details from the victim.

 

 

Will wait for full story on both sides no grey area then ????

[ClutchClark]

11 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Hopefully at some point the lady recovers and is able to say exactly what happened.  All the speculation in the world doesn't mean a thing.

 

She hath spoken.

 

How do you think they knew of her attacker?

 

How do you think they knew she has no feeling in her legs?

 

She was conscious and not ina coma.

[Mickmouse1]

Can the reporter tell us why S/He used the word advances and not Assault? 

[Jonmarleesco]

7 hours ago, lahgon29 said:

Poor woman...People with broken legs feel pain...Usually lots of it. Sounds as if she has a spinal fracture...thoracic or lumbar...I'd bet London to a brick that she wasn't treated as spinal when she was extricated. I've had experiences with the medical side of the so called emergency services in Thailand...Cowboys.

I don't think the rescue services are cowboys. The police, though, yes. I've witnessed their (in)competence when dealing with an injured person. 

[SOTIRIOS]

...who will foot the bill...

 

...another victim of local violence and savagery....

 

....another quality tourist's life ruined.....

 

...the local savage will apologize...or shave his head and don a robe......

[SOTIRIOS]

.....Savage: '...duhh..sorry...she was so beautiful...and I was missing my girlfriend....'....

 

...actually a lot of local guys have told me....'I really want to do it with a foreign woman'.....

 

...the problem is they will stop at nothing.....

[Sphere]

 

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He admitted to the incident and has some scratches on his body.

 

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No charge has been filed, we are waiting to question the victim,” Col Piyapong said.

 

How long the wait?