Thai police claim they have set guideline on presentation of suspects before the media

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Thai police claim they have set guideline on presentation of suspects before the media

 

 

BANGKOK:-- The police must have the consent of a criminal suspect when he or she is to be presented before the media at a press conference, Police Colonel Krisana Pattanacharoen, deputy spokesman of the Royal Thai Police Office, said on Monday.

 

In response to a recent directive from Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha for the police not to present a criminal suspect or more before the media as such act may infringe on his/her or their human rights, the police colonel said that the Royal Thai

 

Police Office had set a clear-cut guideline three years ago that the suspects must give their consent in writing before police can parade them before the media.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/police-claim-set-guideline-presentation-suspects-media/

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-05

[worgeordie]

I don't believe any criminal suspect would consent, if they had any

common sense.

regards Worgeordie

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

So if the Thai PBS report above is accurate and correct, then the national police are proposing to ignore the PM's directive???

 

One police spokesman claimed in the same news report that originally announced the PM's directive that they already were obtaining "consent" from suspects before parading them. Although, I don't think that notion had ever publicly surfaced before.

 

And, if you think about all the various people the police have paraded in recent years, including many wearing sunglasses, face masks, etc to hide their identities, you can pretty well imagine most or many of them would NOT have consented.

 

But all that aside, the PM's directive didn't say the police shouldn't parade suspects unless.... It said, stop parading suspects.

 

[JAG]

So are they going to continue the practise?

 

Hissy fits and stamping of feet all round!

[rkidlad]

I remember some farang girl I knew of had acid thrown in her face in the Lard Prao area. The police invited her to the station, and when she got there, she was ushered into a press conference. Nobody told her and no one asked her permission. The attitude was like "who wouldn't wanna be in front of the camera!". 

 

She was never asked her consesnt and she was the victim. The whole thing left her feeling indignant. 

[Hawk]

"The police must have the consent of a criminal suspect when he or she is to be presented before the media at a press conference, Police Colonel Krisana Pattanacharoen, deputy spokesman of the Royal Thai Police Office, said on Monday."

 

 

In theory this statement could be true but to date no police station in the country has asked any suspect anything before parading them and going through the pointing nonsense.

 

The immigration police routinely show their catches to the press and I am sure not a single arrestee consented that's why they are normally shown wearing dark sunglasses and a face mask, they don't want to be there.

[snoop1130]

NBTC to issue regulation banning media from showing images of suspects in the media

 

 

The National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission will soon be asked by the Justice Ministry and the Department for the Protection of Rights and Liberties to come up with a regulation prohibiting the broadcast media from showing the images of suspects in the media.

 

Justice deputy permanent secretary Thawatchai Thaikhieu said presenting or parading the suspects before the media by the police or other law enforcement agencies is regarded as a violation of human rights in accordance with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

 

The logic, he explained, is that the suspects are not yet the wrongdoers and if, later on, they are not indicted or they are found not guilty by the court, their reputation has already been tainted by the media and their families too are affected by the news presentation.

 

Citing an academic study, Mr Thawatchai said parading suspects before the media tends to have long-term ill effects on the society and to encourage the suspects to commit more serious offences.

 

He dismissed as unlikely the argument that the suspects themselves want to be paraded before the media “as no suspects want to appear before the media to talk about their wrongdoings.”

 

The deputy permanent secretary for justice cited a case in Spain in which a suspected offender won the court’s acquittal and, later on, sued the media to demand them to remove his images from their files.

 

He explained that the prime minister’s directive for the police not to parade suspects before the media did not mean that the media would be banned from presenting reports about the suspects’ alleged offences.

 

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/nbtc-issue-regulation-banning-media-showing-images-suspects-media/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-05

[BigBadGeordie]

 

"BANGKOK:-- The police must have the consent of a criminal suspect when he or she is to be presented before the media at a press conference, Police Colonel Krisana Pattanacharoen, deputy spokesman of the Royal Thai Police Office, said on Monday."

 

Left hand.........Right hand..........or even the dreaded Third hand.

[DM07]

Sure they have guidelines.

But unless, these guidelines include "taking pictures of the burned body of the 12 year old female victim", "pointing the accused in the right direction, if necessary" or "invite the family of a rape and murder victim to a police-station for  a briefing and then letting a hungry pack or reporters in", they don't follow those lines often! 

[Misterwhisper]

I can only imagine what those "guidelines" are...

 

1. Cram as many police officers as possible into the picture so everyone can get their 15 minutes of media fame.

2. Ensure that every officer is wearing as much brass (whether deserved or not) as possible, particularly "paratrooper" badges, in order to awe the public.

3. Instruct the victims of the alleged crime to vigorously point their fingers at the suspect(s).

4. If no actual victims are present, recruit random bystanders to carry out the finger pointing.

5. If no random bystanders are present, assign some of the posing officers to point their fingers.

6. Instruct the suspect(s) to shield their eyes from the press cameras in order to make them appear more guilty.

7. For maximum effect, ensure the suspect(s) to exactly play out their alleged crime in accordance with the choreography designed by investigators.

8. If the suspects fail to comply with the choreography, reprimand them sternly about what they are expected to do.

[williamgeorgeallen]

well if you had the option of going before the press or being beaten by telephone books i think most suspects would go along with the cameras. pretty ballsy of the cops to go against the general. shows how much they love these types of spectacles. 

[dieseldave1951]

Police Office had set a clear-cut guideline three years ago that the suspects must give their consent in writing before police can parade them before the media.

 

so all of the suspect for the last three years have given their written permission have they ????now it makes sense why the suspects wear sun glasses and face masks 

 

you can rest assured that the suspects were NOT advised of the regulation 

Edited September 6, 2016 by dieseldave1951

[slapout]

Is it due to proven lies by members of the bib, for their involvment in murder for hire, gambling, human trafficing, people disappearing, cash given at traffic stops, etc that leaves me in doubt of generally much of what is quoted as they have said?

[madmitch]

The police have ways of extracting confessions.

 

They will also have ways of getting permission for a media show.

[sahibji]

16 hours ago, worgeordie said:

I don't believe any criminal suspect would consent, if they had any

common sense.

regards Worgeordie

unless they are innocent.

[sahibji]

17 minutes ago, madmitch said:

The police have ways of extracting confessions.

 

They will also have ways of getting permission for a media show.

so is it lose lose situation.

[sahibji]

40 minutes ago, dieseldave1951 said:

Police Office had set a clear-cut guideline three years ago that the suspects must give their consent in writing before police can parade them before the media.

 

so all of the suspect for the last three years have given their written permission have they ????now it makes sense why the suspects wear sun glasses and face masks 

 

you can rest assured that the suspects were NOT advised of the regulation 

tend to go with you on this.

[12DrinkMore]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The logic, he explained, is that the suspects are not yet the wrongdoers and if, later on, they are not indicted or they are found not guilty by the court, their reputation has already been tainted by the media and their families too are affected by the news presentation.

 

Any not prosecuted should sue the media and police for "damage to reputation" a few high profile successful cases will stop the nonsense.

[Baerboxer]

Stop this now. Makes us a laughing stock, oh yes and might infringe some human rights thingies. You know like those overhead tangled cable watnots.

 

Response - must save face. Actually we have guideline already in place and the criminals, err suspects, have signed their agreement.

 

Will they stop as ordered or won't they........................... wait for the next thrilling installment. 

 

Tbc 

[klauskunkel]

19 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Police Office had set a clear-cut guideline three years ago that the suspects must give their consent in writing before police can parade them before the media.

And in the case that police fails to follow it's very own clear-cut guideline, is there a clear-cut punishment for failing to follow what is so clearly cut? Mayhap it is only logical to assume that if police fails to follow in one thing, it equally fails to follow in what should come next. Such are the woes of impunity.

[bark]

16 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

I can only imagine what those "guidelines" are...

 

1. Cram as many police officers as possible into the picture so everyone can get their 15 minutes of media fame.

2. Ensure that every officer is wearing as much brass (whether deserved or not) as possible, particularly "paratrooper" badges, in order to awe the public.

3. Instruct the victims of the alleged crime to vigorously point their fingers at the suspect(s).

4. If no actual victims are present, recruit random bystanders to carry out the finger pointing.

5. If no random bystanders are present, assign some of the posing officers to point their fingers.

6. Instruct the suspect(s) to shield their eyes from the press cameras in order to make them appear more guilty.

7. For maximum effect, ensure the suspect(s) to exactly play out their alleged crime in accordance with the choreography designed by investigators.

8. If the suspects fail to comply with the choreography, reprimand them sternly about what they are expected to do.

They also have a long group of Burma men, who are 100 % guilty. Same as the " Lady in Waiting "

[Rod Gold]

It is all good.  Once the suspects are exonerated from any wrong-doing, the police should have to sit at the table and be filmed with the suspects pointing at them to shame the police for wrongful defamation of a suspect's character.