webfact Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Four Pattaya Bars Targeted for Midnight Raids Report by Pattaya One News Team PATTAYA: -- Just after midnight on the morning of September 16, Pattaya police teams carried raids on four bars around the town. The Noir Pub, the Finn Pub, Nomtoh Bar and the Fast Pub were all targeted by raid teams. At the Nomtoh Bar officers discovered three E-Cigarettes and some fruit flavored liquid hidden under the counter that were seized as evidence. The bar staff said they belonged to the owner who was away in the village. At the Fast Pub two of the customers were under twenty-years-old and a waiter was found in possession of an Ice smoking pipe and a machete. All three were taken to Pattaya police station for processing. Source: http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/231728/four-pattaya-bars-targeted-midnight-raids/ -- © Copyright Pattaya One 2016-09-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 WOW & <deleted> wow..E ciggies under the counter? Taken as evidence? What if they were Hash flavoured? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Must be low season. Nothing really better to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, Deli said: Must be low season. Nothing really better to do. think it is the army hitting pubs owned by cops. there may be a turf war going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark01 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Unbelievable!!! Isn't smoking cigarettes still illegal in venues? If so, they should have arrested everyone with a packet of cigarettes in their pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, mark01 said: Unbelievable!!! Isn't smoking cigarettes still illegal in venues? If so, they should have arrested everyone with a packet of cigarettes in their pocket. smoking is illegal, having a pack of ciggies in your pocket is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: think it is the army hitting pubs owned by cops. there may be a turf war going on. I have yet to hear any credible evidence that the the army is anyway as near as corrupt as the police. Seems they are making sure the police do not miss anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 E Cigs are illegal….fines, jail time is on the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Basil B said: I have yet to hear any credible evidence that the the army is anyway as near as corrupt as the police. Seems they are making sure the police do not miss anything. need to give the army time to become as corrupt as the cops. wonder how the army are going to take a slice of the bar scene pie. just raiding the bars and shutting them down only results in a one time reopening fee. cops get ongoing payments for being partners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 20 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: think it is the army hitting pubs owned by cops. there may be a turf war going on. I think your onto something when you look at the big scores they are making. Quote At the Nomtoh Bar officers discovered three E-Cigarettes and some fruit flavored liquid hidden under the counter that were seized as evidence. unquote. Geeze Louise go after some big time crooks not all this low hanging fruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: need to give the army time to become as corrupt as the cops. wonder how the army are going to take a slice of the bar scene pie. just raiding the bars and shutting them down only results in a one time reopening fee. cops get ongoing payments for being partners. There is a risk, but then the army is Thailand's only hope of riding corruption inside and outside of the police force, at this stage it is also easy for the higher ranks to jump on any lower rank taking bribes, lets hope this is the beginning of the end to corruption in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: I think your onto something when you look at the big scores they are making. Quote At the Nomtoh Bar officers discovered three E-Cigarettes and some fruit flavored liquid hidden under the counter that were seized as evidence. unquote. Geeze Louise go after some big time crooks not all this low hanging fruit its a big score if you find an under age worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, williamgeorgeallen said: its a big score if you find an under age worker. They came up dry on that one. If they did come up with an under age worker does that mean they all share in the spoils? Poor girl would more than likely do anything to get out of a jam like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Basil B said: There is a risk, but then the army is Thailand's only hope of riding corruption inside and outside of the police force, at this stage it is also easy for the higher ranks to jump on any lower rank taking bribes, lets hope this is the beginning of the end to corruption in Thailand. have you ever lived in thailand, tried to do anything, property, business or anything else? place has corruption so ingrained it would take generations to remove completly, if it is even possible at all. anyone with any power abuses that power for their own gain. i accept that corruption will not be removed here within my lifetime. now the army has absolute power i expect corruption is more likely to increase. Edited September 16, 2016 by williamgeorgeallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I suspect that in any other country throughout the world this police raid would be considered a wash out and complete failure. Exactly what did they achieve? This is just constant lip service, the police pretending they are cracking down on illegal activity whilst all the while it is right under their very noses. And how many times do we have to read that the owner was away at some village somewhere,, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 47 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: They came up dry on that one. If they did come up with an under age worker does that mean they all share in the spoils? Poor girl would more than likely do anything to get out of a jam like that. met a few 17 years olds selling themselves around pattaya. can tell when they say they dont have an ID. they are no different and just as willing as an 18 year old as far as i can tell. i would not take the rish however. i heard of one guy who did and had to pay an on the spot 250k fine. wonder how much the fine is for having one working in your bar. some one said what did this achieve? pretty sure quite a few cops are in negotiations with the army to keep there bars open now. army is moving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The army versus the police has been in place for many years. The police are more high profile and have more opportunities than the army boys but that doesn't mean they are necessarily more corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djlest Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 E ciggie bust - LOl thats funny! So instead of going to Insomia or I bar or Marine disco... they waste tax payers money going after E ciggies and small crapshoot bars... Well i never.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 How gripping to observe this relentless drive against crime ! 3 E-cigarettes, Oh my God how could anyone stoop so low ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The raids will continue by the Army as they are the new sheriff in town and they intend to stay. These raids are currently against Thai owned bars meant as a warning that things will never go back to the way they were before. Farang owned bars will be taken down in good time. The whole Pattaya scene is changing. Many bars are up for sale but if you buy them you are buying a losing venture. Don't waste your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Nothing much changes and when it does it is very slow to do so. The core motivation for Pattaya bars hasn't changed over the years with all the various parties having their noses in the trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brewsterbudgen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Nothing much changes and when it does it is very slow to do so. The core motivation for Pattaya bars hasn't changed over the years with all the various parties having their noses in the trough.And raids on bars who are breaking the 'rules' is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Basil B said: I have yet to hear any credible evidence that the the army is anyway as near as corrupt as the police. Seems they are making sure the police do not miss anything. Yes the army are just as corrupt, they also "protect" the bars and other venues plus they have a very lucrative business going on inside their camps. Now that they are in charge they are spreading their wings so to speak into what was once restricted areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Basil B said: There is a risk, but then the army is Thailand's only hope of riding corruption inside and outside of the police force, at this stage it is also easy for the higher ranks to jump on any lower rank taking bribes, lets hope this is the beginning of the end to corruption in Thailand. All the army are going to do is take away many of the police revenue sources, the army guys are already muscling in on the clubs, prostitution, gambling etc. The higher ranks are in charge completely as they now have more powers than the police, remember Prayut gave them that power a few months ago. The police will be intensifying their traffic revenue collections now, opportunity is where you find it. Corruption will never ever be stopped because the uniforms don't want it to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharn Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Basil B said: I have yet to hear any credible evidence that the the army is anyway as near as corrupt as the police. Seems they are making sure the police do not miss anything. Takes time for the word to leak out. The smarter ones learned from 2007. Don't flaunt it quite so much. Back in 1992 they were even more open, spoiled seeing Chattichai Choonhawen and his "buffet cabinet" being so brazen, they thought they could get away with it. Well, I guess they were right -- Suchinda is a very rich man now, treated with enormous respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 9 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: think it is the army hitting pubs owned by cops. there may be a turf war going on. Pretty sure you're wrong. Article states it was police raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 14 hours ago, mark01 said: Unbelievable!!! Isn't smoking cigarettes still illegal in venues? If so, they should have arrested everyone with a packet of cigarettes in their pocket. As far as I know the non smoking law is still in effect but after about one year it was no longer enforced. I remember a few years back when it went non-smoking. I thought it was great. But smoking goes on everywhere I have been lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 18 hours ago, webfact said: At the Nomtoh Bar officers discovered three E-Cigarettes and some fruit flavored liquid hidden under the counter that were seized as evidence. Crime of the century !!! Lifetime sentence ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 hours ago, whaleboneman said: Pretty sure you're wrong. Article states it was police raid. cops dont wear camo. look at the picture again. normally when the cops do the raids on the police owned bars they dont find anything. when the army does a raid they find problems or at least make some up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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