What is a 'normal' drinker?

[mogandave]

In my opinion. If you have a problem that you dont want to occur as a result of drinking alcohol and you continue to drink alcohol at that level so that you have that or another equally unwanted problem occur again, then by definition you have a drinking problem. You decided that the drinking was more important than eliminating the occurance of problems.

I think this describes an alcoholic, not a problem drinker..

[AYJAYDEE]

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

I think this describes an alcoholic, not a problem drinker..

 

youre welcome to your opinion

 

[mogandave]

youre welcome to your opinion
 

As are you.

[Alan Whickerbasket]

On 4/1/2018 at 8:31 PM, mogandave said:

 

I think this describes an alcoholic, not a problem drinker..

 

Yes I do too - I am in exactly this boat, I don't want the anxiety and every negative feeling that comes with it and I want this house to see the happy times it once had, don't get me wrong it is still a happy house - but not anything like as happy as it once was and I fantasize about getting things back to the way they once were.

 

But it is not easy when you live in one of the hottest most humid places on earth and don't have any friends around you apart from her indoors - no I won't approach the expats because on previous experience they are nothing but more trouble waiting!! We work hard in merciless heat and I get bored quickly, err maybe now I can play games 3 nights a week but there are still another 4 where I relapse and just can't seem to get out of it - not for want of trying but like the OP says - you are putting the drink before the things you don't want to keep happening, you both make good points but I have to agree - it's alcoholism, not merely a drinking problem.

 

Alan.

[AYJAYDEE]

5 hours ago, Alan Whickerbasket said:

Yes I do too - I am in exactly this boat, I don't want the anxiety and every negative feeling that comes with it and I want this house to see the happy times it once had, don't get me wrong it is still a happy house - but not anything like as happy as it once was and I fantasize about getting things back to the way they once were.

 

But it is not easy when you live in one of the hottest most humid places on earth and don't have any friends around you apart from her indoors - no I won't approach the expats because on previous experience they are nothing but more trouble waiting!! We work hard in merciless heat and I get bored quickly, err maybe now I can play games 3 nights a week but there are still another 4 where I relapse and just can't seem to get out of it - not for want of trying but like the OP says - you are putting the drink before the things you don't want to keep happening, you both make good points but I have to agree - it's alcoholism, not merely a drinking problem.

 

Alan.

I equate a continuing drinking problem with alcoholism. that was my point.

 

[neeray]

about 2 beers a year is "normal" for me. I don't see the point to pickling my innards.

[vogie]

On 2/18/2018 at 9:05 AM, Airbagwill said:

If you can't conceive of a social interaction that doesn't involve alcohol

If you can't go to a game without alcohol

If you can't sit on a beach without alcohol

If you look forward to that beer at the end of the day and leave quickly for it

If you can't eat an evening meal without aalcohol

If you can't celebrate without alcohol

If you can't drive home because you drank alcohol

If you change your plans to include alcohol.....

If your excuse for being late is because of alcohol

If you ever get a hangover

If you miss work because of alcohol

If you argue with someone because of alcohol

That's the worst poem I've read in a long time.

[Hummin]

On 2/2/2018 at 9:36 PM, balo said:

I think it would be an interesting business idea to open a bar , that looks like a bar serving only alcohol free drinks.  Cocktails without alcohol etc. Big signs outside to tell everyone to have fun and stay sober.

And I want some great music to dance to . Everyone in party mode without alcohol , that would be great . 

 

 

With girls who serve only drinks and do not leave the bar ? 

 

would be a interesting concept in Pattaya. 

[Hummin]

4-5 times a year I get drunk, and then puke, and Im good for another two tree months. Good reminder why I do not drink to often. I get huge hangover days, and first day I do not move out of bed, and hardly eat. 

 

Im better off without but two glasses of wine for the week and a dinner is good. 

[mogandave]

Yes I do too - I am in exactly this boat, I don't want the anxiety and every negative feeling that comes with it and I want this house to see the happy times it once had, don't get me wrong it is still a happy house - but not anything like as happy as it once was and I fantasize about getting things back to the way they once were.
 
But it is not easy when you live in one of the hottest most humid places on earth and don't have any friends around you apart from her indoors - no I won't approach the expats because on previous experience they are nothing but more trouble waiting!! We work hard in merciless heat and I get bored quickly, err maybe now I can play games 3 nights a week but there are still another 4 where I relapse and just can't seem to get out of it - not for want of trying but like the OP says - you are putting the drink before the things you don't want to keep happening, you both make good points but I have to agree - it's alcoholism, not merely a drinking problem.
 
Alan.

Why not call Alcoholics Anonymous?

[AYJAYDEE]

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

4-5 times a year I get drunk, and then puke, and Im good for another two tree months. Good reminder why I do not drink to often. I get huge hangover days, and first day I do not move out of bed, and hardly eat. 

 

Im better off without but two glasses of wine for the week and a dinner is good. 

Thats a stiff price to pay for those two glasses of wine a week

[gandalf12]

In places like Pattaya, Soi Cowboy etc the norm is to get as plastered as you can. Big drinking capacity for small brained people

[neeray]

5 minutes ago, gandalf12 said:

In places like Pattaya, Soi Cowboy etc the norm is to get as plastered as you can. Big drinking capacity for small brained people

Oh wow, gee, that sounds so exciting. So adult.

[AYJAYDEE]

1 minute ago, neeray said:

Oh wow, gee, that sounds so exciting. So adult.

you dont understand substance abuse and its causes

 

[neeray]

1 minute ago, AYJAYDEE said:

you dont understand substance abuse and its causes

 

You don't understand my dry humor. But you're right! Since I only ever drank as a young adult and have never done drugs, I wouldn't understand.

But darn it anyway, I lost my supply of crack last night when I got drunk.

[AYJAYDEE]

Just now, neeray said:

You don't understand my dry humor. But you're right! Since I only ever drank as a young adult and have never done drugs, I wouldn't understand.

But darn it anyway, I lost my supply of crack last night when I got drunk.

not a great thing to joke about, the abuser is suffering

 

[mogandave]

you dont understand substance abuse and its causes
 

Why not explain it for us?

Not everyone that drinks or gets drunk has a substance abuse problem.

[neeray]

1 minute ago, AYJAYDEE said:

not a great thing to joke about, the abuser is suffering

 

Sorry for the abuser but I think there are ways to deal with these issues, even in Thailand.

[AYJAYDEE]

Just now, mogandave said:

 

Why not explain it for us?

Not everyone that drinks or gets drunk has a substance abuse problem.

 

wouldnt serve any good purpose

 

[AYJAYDEE]

Just now, neeray said:

Sorry for the abuser but I think there are ways to deal with these issues, even in Thailand.

its easier for some  than others. 

 

[mogandave]

wouldnt serve any good purpose
 

Explaining something to someone serves no good purpose, but telling them they don’t understand something does?

[AYJAYDEE]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

 

Explaining something to someone serves no good purpose, but telling them they don’t understand something does?
 

 

you'd have to ask him

[mogandave]

you'd have to ask him

Yet you know without asking that explaining it would be pointless.

[AYJAYDEE]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

 

Yet you know without asking that explaining it would be pointless.

 

thats not it at all. I simply feel that my explaining my ideas on substance abuse to  you would definitely serve no purpose for me and whether it would serve a purpose as far as you are concerned is immaterial to me.

[neeray]

4 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

thats not it at all. I simply feel that my explaining my ideas on substance abuse to  you would definitely serve no purpose for me and whether it would serve a purpose as far as you are concerned is immaterial to me.

So basically just throw out a barb but don't bother to answer for it.

[AYJAYDEE]

1 minute ago, neeray said:

So basically just throw out a barb but don't bother to answer for it.

Lol! why would I feel a need to answer for it to you when you agreed with what I said???                                       your words   "But you're right! Since I only ever drank as a young adult and have never done drugs, I wouldn't understand."

[mogandave]

thats not it at all. I simply feel that my explaining my ideas on substance abuse to  you would definitely serve no purpose for me and whether it would serve a purpose as far as you are concerned is immaterial to me.

Why so selfish?

[AYJAYDEE]

Just now, mogandave said:

 

Why so selfish?
 

 

its more than selfish

 

[mogandave]

its more than selfish
 

Self centered then?

[AYJAYDEE]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Self centered then?

 

no. nothing to do with me