China begins operating giant telescope to explore deep space

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China begins operating giant telescope to explore deep space

 

 

GUIZHOU: -- China has taken a big step forward in space exploration: a huge radio telescope – the largest in the world – has begun operating from its base in the southwest of the country.

 

Its mission includes trying to understand better the origins of the universe, and searching for extraterrestrial life.

 

The telescope’s giant dish, 500 metres across, was finished in July and has now started receiving signals from space according to Chinese scientists.

 

Engineers say more than 100 tests were performed in preparation for the launch.

 

Some 8,000 people were evacuated from the valley in Guizhou province where it has been built as it needs a quiet environment, with radio silence within a five-kilometre radius.

 

Despite the vast scale of the operation the structure has taken only five years to build at a cost of around 160 million euros.

 

Beijing hopes the telescope will symbolise a transition towards investment in science and technology, and away from cheap manufacturing.

 

Its sheer size will help it detect signals from far flung corners of the cosmos.

 

China’s space ambitions include building a space station and putting a human on the moon in the next 20 years.

 

The country once barely registered on the scale in terms of space exploration. It now ranks just behind the US.

 

-- © Copyright Euronews 2016-09-26

[Credo]

I hope it is capable of penetrating the smog and pollution.   

[sirineou]

looking for new export markets?

[Publicus]

 

No question CCP technology is developing in fast and furious ways. One quick step at a time: Tomorrow the universe, today the world. Kind of like a Chinese home run in baseball...

 

 

October 1st which is CCP National Day, rules of governance of the global Internet change so U.S. Department of Commerce no longer has the primary control. CCP is making big technology plans about it starting with their Cyber Security Association of China.

 

The "association"  is commanded by Fang Binxing, the creator of CCP's Great Firewall, which censors and controls the mainland internet. The association, formed on March 25, gives the CCP its means to impose its internet control systems and laws to the internet abroad, while giving its efforts a benign facade under the label of “cybersecurity.”

 

Steve Crocker, chair of ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), during an ICANN meeting in Singapore on Feb. 9, 2015. The U.S. plan to relinquish control of ICANN opens the door for China to have greater influence over the global Internet. (ROSLAN RAHMAN/AFP/Getty Images)

 

“Experts said China is using the platform to sell its own strategy and rules to the world, a mission that the world’s largest cyberpower with the most internet users has deemed significant and urgent,” the state-run China Daily reported at the time.

 

“China has the capability now to set up international rules for cyberspace and use our strategy and our rules to influence the world,” said Shen Yi, an associate professor specializing in cybersecurity at Fudan University, according to China Daily.

 

“China is considering setting up its own rules in cyberspace,” CCP Premier Li Keqiang said, in comments summarized by China Daily. He added the CCP wants to create a “common code of rules” for the internet.

 

In July 2015, the CCP passed the National Security Law mentioned earlier, with its requirement that certain technologies should be “secure and controllable.”

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4707107

 

 

China are to take full control of the Internet as the United States prepares to relinquish it’s control on October 1, 2016. 

 

http://yournewswire.com/china-to-control-global-internet-by-october-1-2016/

 

Edited September 26, 2016 by Publicus
Clean up a mess made by external censors.

[ezzra]

After concerning the world with millions of tourists, zero dollar tourists, next destination: deep space, for once, I be very happy to see those pesky Chinese tourists going there....

[Credo]

3 minutes ago, ezzra said:

After concerning the world with millions of tourists, zero dollar tourists, next destination: deep space, for once, I be very happy to see those pesky Chinese tourists going there....

Oh, goodness, I am afraid there will be more space junk.   

[boomerangutang]

Some good news from China for a change.

[daveAustin]

Yes, good news, this. That's one mammoth dish! I don't go for all this biggest and best, but their bloated aspirations can lead to good things.

 

On the ICANN thing; this won't affect users, or anything really. The US government never really had control of the internet. If it held any sort of sway over ICANN, it was largely symbolic. ICANN simply collates the naming/numbering system and keeps tabs on IP addresses to help things tick over. Ultimately, no one entity controls the internet and never will, which makes the below quote laughable:

 

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China are to take full control of the Internet as the United States prepares to relinquish it’s control on October 1, 2016

  

lol. Throttle the internet within your borders all you like, but short of hacking the world to death, taking full control cannot and will not happen. Next.

[masuk]

2 hours ago, Credo said:

I hope it is capable of penetrating the smog and pollution.   

Unlike Thailand, there are Chinese cities where diesel fuel is not permitted.  Amazing difference, with buses on LNG, electric motor bikes, pickups etc also running on LNG.

[realenglish1]

Why spend so much on a land bases system when it is clear an orbital system is far superior?

 

That would be interesting to answer

[BuaBS]

More likely to find aliens with a giant new telescope than the US repaying their debt to China .

[bark]

They build bigger building then us also.

[IAMHERE]

" Some 8,000 people were evacuated from the valley in Guizhou province where it has been built as it needs a quiet environment, with radio silence within a five-kilometre radius. "

How many working there have their cell phones turned on along with their bluetooth equipt laptops?

[ourmanflint]

It's not really a telescope, it's a death star weapon capable of destroying whole cities anywhere in the world. 

[soalbundy]

all they will get is the BBC, aim it at the next galaxy and what will they get, GBBO

[KhunBENQ]

13 hours ago, sirineou said:

looking for new export markets?

You were quicker

 

A pure prestige demonstration.

We can also waste money on a hopeless and useless search.

 

Edited September 26, 2016 by KhunBENQ

[Steely Dan]

Looks like a wok placed against a background of paper mache trees to me.


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[Grouse]

 

Its a RADIO TELESCOPE for goodness sake. What's pollution got to do with the price of cheese? Or the Internet for that matter?

 

Looks like the Chinese are gearing up their science and engineering. Should we be concerned?

 

Judging from comments on hear maybe we should worry.

 

Certainly in the UK, "we've had enough of experts"

 

Is Jodrell Bank still operational?

[Credo]

11 hours ago, realenglish1 said:

Why spend so much on a land bases system when it is clear an orbital system is far superior?

 

That would be interesting to answer

If they can't use it for space, it will be the world's largest wok.

[ExpatOilWorker]

Looks like the Chinese forgot to install a receiver for their big wok. 

[nausea]

Yep, China is the next world superpower. I wouldn't worry about it too much though, they're going to have enough problems just keeping their little corner of the World together. 

[Xircal]

Well, in the winter when it rains it can double as a swimming pool.

[Publicus]

Compare and contrast this baby in the CCP China to the Cal Tech led international Thirty Meter Telescope that will be constructed 55 metres upwards and over a native Hawaiian burial ground on Manua Kea mountain. 

 

The project in Hawaii is installing the world's best instrument for gathering radio signals about all manner of exotic phenomena, such as black holes and quasars. The scope also has excellent sensitivity for picking up signals from alien civilisations (to include CCP China for that matter).

 

The dispute resolution process is underway of native Hawaiians having their say and of being accommodated to the maximum extent feasible. The project will be completed and the natives will realise a significant measure of a mutual resolution.

 

This is in contrast to CCP Dictators in Beijing in this project running out 2,029 families — a total of 9,110 people — summarily and arbitrarily. Each family (not each person) got a take it or leave it US$ 1,800 for new housing, a measly amount that will get you but one of the four walls you'd need and no roof besides. (Or a cheap roof and no walls.)

 

China is a big country for such things (same area as the USA actually). Cal Tech examined several sites in the USA and Mexico and settled on Hawaii because there are no land masses adjacent to it or even nearby which would interfere with the project's placement or research. Again, the Hawaii natives are petitioning the state and federal governments to get their relief from the disturbance of the site.

 

An American space zine editor put fairly well this significant difference between CCP and USA....

 

We're not looking into the heavens for the betterment of the stars and galaxies and black holes, let alone any aliens. We're studying the skies to better ourselves back here on Earth, to better know ourselves, our Universe, and, in the case of searching for asteroids, to identify any potential threats to our civilization. We're starting off on the wrong foot as scientists if we step on people to get where we want to go.

 

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/02/a-tale-of-two-telescopes-contrasting-approaches-in-hawaii-and-china/ 

 

Or as a corporate manager in CCP China once said to me about the required Residence Permit, "It's the government so there's nothing we can do." She seemed to like the fact.

Edited September 26, 2016 by Publicus
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