Central provinces warned to brace for floods as more pumps are ordered for Bangkok

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Central provinces warned to brace for floods as more pumps are ordered for Bangkok

WATTANA KHAMCHOO
THE NATION

 

 

THREE central provinces

 

Kritsada Boonrat said flooding in the three central provinces was worrying but not as severe as 2011 because major dams such as Bhumibol and Sirikit could take in 30 to 40 per cent more water. 

"Many areas are facing floods and residents are panicking. Flooding is a natural disaster caused by water volumes from the North and pouring rains flowing into the Chao Phraya River. The government, hence, has to releasing water to some areas. For harvesting areas, water would be released into the area after harvesting to store for the next season," he said.

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Central-provinces-warned-to-brace-for-floods-as-mo-30296628.html

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2016-10-01

[Chang_paarp]

Are the powers that be going to order the boats to help push the water down stream too?

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

And the pumps will probably be available when people are neck-deep up in water and all their belongings destroyed. Typical Thai planning, no forward thinking at all, same when a boat sinks and many people dies, first than they start to check for life jackets, permits etc. Third world and will always be.

[FritsSikkink]

10 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said:

Are the powers that be going to order the boats to help push the water down stream too?

If you bothered to read the article you would now more

[BigBadGeordie]

Kritsada Boonrat knows his stuff, clearly an expert in the matter

"Many areas are facing floods and residents are panicking. Flooding is a natural disaster caused by water volumes from the North and pouring rains flowing into the Chao Phraya River."

 OK Khun Krisada, got that.

"The water flowing into Chao Phraya dam is from rain in some areas and flowing to rivers and canals while the water in the lower area is floods."

Aha, the water flows from high ground to lower areas and it comes from the rain! Thanks for that. 

 

"Officials should act as intermediaries for compromise and set up teams to listen to their complaints otherwise they would complain to the mass media instead, worsening the official organisation's image," 

 

And now we reach the crux of the matter, it's not about the farmers lost harvests, it's not about the flooded homes or peoples property and livelihoods being destroyed.

 

It's a warning to officials to get out there and stop people complaining and informing the mass media. For at all costs nothing, I repeat nothing, must be allowed to bring about a "worsening (of) the official organisation's image,"

 

Thainess personified.

[NongKhaiKid]

5 minutes ago, BigBadGeordie said:

Kritsada Boonrat knows his stuff, clearly an expert in the matter

"Many areas are facing floods and residents are panicking. Flooding is a natural disaster caused by water volumes from the North and pouring rains flowing into the Chao Phraya River."

 OK Khun Krisada, got that.

"The water flowing into Chao Phraya dam is from rain in some areas and flowing to rivers and canals while the water in the lower area is floods."

Aha, the water flows from high ground to lower areas and it comes from the rain! Thanks for that. 

 

"Officials should act as intermediaries for compromise and set up teams to listen to their complaints otherwise they would complain to the mass media instead, worsening the official organisation's image," 

 

And now we reach the crux of the matter, it's not about the farmers lost harvests, it's not about the flooded homes or peoples property and livelihoods being destroyed.

 

It's a warning to officials to get out there and stop people complaining and informing the mass media. For at all costs nothing, I repeat nothing, must be allowed to bring about a "worsening (of) the official organisation's image,"

 

Thainess personified.

Spot On !   Nice One.

Got to love Thai officials, they open their mouths without thinking first and then their feet are a perfect fit.

[eliotness]

Still saying "not as bad as 2011", boy are they tempting fate.  More heavy rains forecast for this month, fingers crossed is the order of the day !!!

[boomerangutang]

I designed a simple bed that will serve as a non-soaking mattress.  It will also serve to support a mattress (keep it dry) in up to 2 inches of water.  Many, if not most Thai mattresses lie directly on floors.  The design uses re-cycled empty water bottles taped together with duct tape.  I made a couple and use them to relax upon, outdoors, without any more covering than a blanket.  Cost: about 40 baht (for tape).  Quite comfortable also.

 

I've also designed and built a raft made from recycled water/soda bottles. It had a simple bamboo frame and was used to float 60 miles down a large river.

[williamgeorgeallen]

going to have to delay the flood miss management court case against yingluck while the current 'government' is mis managing this flood.

2million going out to help the flooding. wonder if any of it will trickle down to actually do anything useful.

[DavisH]

51 minutes ago, eliotness said:

Still saying "not as bad as 2011", boy are they tempting fate.  More heavy rains forecast for this month, fingers crossed is the order of the day !!!

At this time in 2011 many areas were heavily flooded in Bangkok. The road near my house was impassable in a small car. The river is also much lower than in that year. Its high, but normal for the average wet season. With a month of wet season to go, I don't expect any major problems in Bkk. Other areas, such as around Ayutthaya and north or there, usually flood in low lying places every year. During 2011 they were under 2-3 meters of water at this time.

[elgordo38]

3 hours ago, Chang_paarp said:

Are the powers that be going to order the boats to help push the water down stream too?

Yes as the song says Merrily merrily on its way. More pumps for Bangkok. Ah yes the Atlantis of Thailand. 

[clockman]

Time and tide wait for no man!

[Grubster]

53 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

going to have to delay the flood miss management court case against yingluck while the current 'government' is mis managing this flood.

2million going out to help the flooding. wonder if any of it will trickle down to actually do anything useful.

Yes and as clearly stated by anti Yingluck posters, The flood was very predictable and the water should have been released through all dams ahead of the floods. Maybe they have learned something now, but I doubt it. Don't do the dredging, piping, and installation of pumps while the ground is dry and easy to do, I see the PM pressing charges against himself for this one, Not.  Make sure you keep enough water for the next easily predictable drought. He sure saved the day with all the rain seeding. While all that money could have been spent averting this predictable flood.

[Grubster]

52 minutes ago, Jack Mountain said:

Can't they use article 44 to stop the water?

No but he can use it to avoid any responsibility for lack of planning after seeing the damage the 2011 flood did.

[boomerangutang]

Move to higher ground.  Naw, foggedit. I'm already on high ground and I don't much want the teeming masses to join me up here.

[Lupatria]

With all these pumped up statements from the TAT and the Ministry of Truth, they should ask to borrow their devices. These must be the biggest available.

[williamgeorgeallen]

1 hour ago, Grubster said:

Yes and as clearly stated by anti Yingluck posters, The flood was very predictable and the water should have been released through all dams ahead of the floods. Maybe they have learned something now, but I doubt it. Don't do the dredging, piping, and installation of pumps while the ground is dry and easy to do, I see the PM pressing charges against himself for this one, Not.  Make sure you keep enough water for the next easily predictable drought. He sure saved the day with all the rain seeding. While all that money could have been spent averting this predictable flood.

so i was renting a house in jomtien with a couple mates several years ago and the roof was leaking. one of the guys arranged to have it fixed. it was a long process and by the time the guys turned up it was janurary. his girlfriend said 'why you getting the roof fixed? it is dry season' we all had a good laugh. seems to be the general school of thought , no need to fix a problem unless it is causing immediate problems. last drought would have been a good time to dredge the dams to increase capacity. i doubt it was done.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

And the pumps will probably be available when people are neck-deep up in water and all their belongings destroyed. Typical Thai planning, no forward thinking at all, same when a boat sinks and many people dies, first than they start to check for life jackets, permits etc. Third world and will always be.

 

I sort of agree with there that it is a problem for the government, but which one.

 

I can remember that the PTP government allocated 350 Bn baht back in 2012 for flood prevention but with the current flooding it obviously wasn't enough or perhaps some of the funds got lost in the floods.

 

Does anybody know if the pumps that Thaksin supposedly ordered from Korea ever turned up?

 

They would come in handy right now.

[jollyhangmon]

BKK's got water problems in two ways at least: too much above, well, sometimes and permanently not enough (left) below ground level with the latter being a main contributing factor to the known sinking of the place. Doesn't help a whole lot in flooding situations for sure, caused by too much groundwater extraction over decades, big parts used for factories, construction etc., replacing that missing water doesn't fly, so it's a done deal.

BKK is said to have lost somewhere between 2 and 3 meters in elevation since about 1900, having slowed down to an annual 5 or 6 cm with industries relocating, many of them towards coast but they still need a lot of groundwater. Subsequently the shoreline is a good 5 klicks farther 'inland' now than it was some 35 or 40 years ago.

 

=> Pretty recent map of BKKs elevation levels, anything blue is already below sea level, the darker colored the deeper in the ... water, exactly; fits like a fist on an eye:

 

 

=> Sunken ground in BKK, highway seems to have gotten pretty well groundwork in comparison:

 

 

=> Recession of shoreline (example = Khun Samut Chin Temple, south of BKK):

 

[CGW]

6 hours ago, eliotness said:

Still saying "not as bad as 2011", boy are they tempting fate.  More heavy rains forecast for this month, fingers crossed is the order of the day !!!

 

No need to worry anymore! Usual high standard of reporting being adhered too

 

[SOTIRIOS]

...what a load of malarkey.....

 

...now even flooding...is not flooding.....???

[kannot]

ahem!

[seajae]

how many times have we seen the govt of the day allocate millions to "fix" the flooding but somehow the money disappears and bugger all is actually done. After the 2011 floods there was a huge amount of money set aside by yl to fix the flooding yet again nothing was done(they didnt even line up all the boats to push the water back with their propellers as they said they would), Bangkok management also was supposed to do a heap of work to alleviate the flooding but as we saw not that long back this also never eventuated. Seems that all those in charge no matter who they are put the money aside for this work but it never actually makes it to the ones supposed to do the work, must be some very healthy bank accounts somewhere as it hasnt been spent on what it was intended for but then this is the usual thing here, graft and corruption come before the people, their lives and their livelihoods/possesions.

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts and bickering replies have been removed, this is about the current flood situation and not what transpired in 2011.

[MaxLee]

The plan? Protect Bangkok and inundate the rest of Thailand.. Surprised?...????

[jamesbrock]

13 minutes ago, seajae said:

they didnt even line up all the boats to push the water back with their propellers as they said they would

 

Yes they did...

 

 

14 minutes ago, seajae said:

Bangkok management also was supposed to do a heap of work to alleviate the flooding but as we saw not that long back this also never eventuated.

 

Again, they did...

 

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/eighth-flood-tunnel-construction-to-save-bangkok-from-flooding-making-progress/

 

 

[impulse]

On 10/1/2016 at 6:26 AM, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

And the pumps will probably be available when people are neck-deep up in water and all their belongings destroyed. Typical Thai planning, no forward thinking at all, same when a boat sinks and many people dies, first than they start to check for life jackets, permits etc. Third world and will always be.

 

Just curious.  Where, exactly, would they pump the water to?  Gotta put it somewhere.  And if the surrounding 1000 sq km are inundated, you're pretty much out of choices.