Hip pain

[overherebc]

Anyone out there who can let me know a good painkiller for hip and lower back pain.

[JDGRUEN]

Everyone will say that you need to see a doctor ... But I understand - and I have some specific remedies to share that I use ... 

 

1. On the affected area of your hip and at lower back ... usually the Sciatic Nerve area... at never junctions use ICE packs - not heat... at Cramped Muscle sites you can use heat.   These will help the hip also .. .the hip problem may be due to osteoarthritis - but (some will scoff but so be it) - the hip problem may also be due to the Sciatic Nerve problem ... 

 

2.  Anti-inflammatory meds... Your pain may well be related to inflammation - at the Sciatic nerve area -- L5-S1... vertebrae.  The disc here may be bulging and is touching the Sciatic nerve ... The Sciatic nerve may be red - raw and inflamed due to the disc tissue touching the Sciatic nerve setting up an allergic type reaction of the nerve tissue... 

  -- use anti-inflammatory drugs such as Naproxin Sodium (brand name Aleve) ... you will need to take this with meals - and never on an empty stomach.

  -  natural anti-inflammatory drugs -- Omega 3 Fish or better yet Krill oils - take more than recommended for a long time... Turmeric - from the root... capsules -- take 3-4 in the morning and 3-4 at night ... Both fish oils and turmeric are low to no side effects.

 -- Some will scoff again ---- run liberally into your lower back -- topical steroid creams 1%... Or even nasal steroidal sprays ... scoff scoff scoff -- but it works to a minor degree -- but it works ...

- All the above will reduce pain by reducing inflammation

3. Pain -- Paracetamol (Tylenol) 500 mg - take as directed on medical literature... Great pain reliever but nothing for inflammation ...  

    - Tramadol 50 mg - at bed time or when in serious pain.   It can be taken along with Ibuprofen 400 mg.   Both every 4 to 6 hours.  

 

In my opinion it is better to ward off pain ahead of time - rather than to fight it off after it sets in.

 

4.  Muscle Relaxers - much of the discomfort of back problems is due to muscle spasms brought about by the random and rapid firing of the Sciatic or other nerves involved at the spinal cord junction.   These spasms often go down the buttocks, back and front of the thighs -- into the knee area, down the calf and into the ankle and foot..  Walking is often painful and bending and reaching is very difficult ... Sometimes spontaneous severe muscle cramps come about and can make your cry out in pain ... One can have numbness of the foot on the affected side.

 

If suffering the muscle problems described above..

- MydoCalm (Tolperisone HCL) 150 mg.  Take as directed in the day time - about every 4 to 6 hours .-- it does not cause you to become drowsy ... 

 

- Muscle Relaxers - at night time ... they make you drowsy and sleep can be good with constant pain

    Musolax - Eperisone HCL - 50 mg.  ... this medication is just a fairly mild skeletal muscle relaxer and has a side effect of helping to        induce sleep.

 

    Liobac (Baclofen 10 mg.).  This is a muscle relaxer that works via the CNS - Central Nervous System.   This drug is a good sleep             inducer without bad side effects.  And is extremely effective in relaxing muscles in the upper legs and lower legs and feet.

 

You may not need all that I take ... but if you decide to try - all of these are available OTC - Over the Counter in Thailand .

 

 

I am not a doctor -- just relating what I do ... follow suit in any way - if you please... up to you... 

While not a doctor - I know Sciatica from much personal experience.  And I know the associated hip and knee pain that can happen... Also I am while not a doctor -- I am very well educated in science - medical subjects and general health situation - education and many years of experience... 

  

[Sheryl]

NSAIDs like diclofenac (votaren), iburpofen, mefanamic acid (Ponstan) ,  etc  are often effective but should not be  taken if you are on blood thinners, have any sort of coagulation disorder, or have ulcers or gastritis. Read up on contrai dications and side effects.

 

Depending on the cause of the pain, physical therapy can also often be very helpful.

[overherebc]

14 minutes ago, JDGRUEN said:

Everyone will say that you need to see a doctor ... But I understand - and I have some specific remedies to share that I use ... 

 

1. On the affected area of your hip and at lower back ... usually the Sciatic Nerve area... at never junctions use ICE packs - not heat... at Cramped Muscle sites you can use heat.   These will help the hip also .. .the hip problem may be due to osteoarthritis - but (some will scoff but so be it) - the hip problem may also be due to the Sciatic Nerve problem ... 

 

2.  Anti-inflammatory meds... Your pain may well be related to inflammation - at the Sciatic nerve area -- L5-S1... vertebrae.  The disc here may be bulging and is touching the Sciatic nerve ... The Sciatic nerve may be red - raw and inflamed due to the disc tissue touching the Sciatic nerve setting up an allergic type reaction of the nerve tissue... 

  -- use anti-inflammatory drugs such as Naproxin Sodium (brand name Aleve) ... you will need to take this with meals - and never on an empty stomach.

  -  natural anti-inflammatory drugs -- Omega 3 Fish or better yet Krill oils - take more than recommended for a long time... Turmeric - from the root... capsules -- take 3-4 in the morning and 3-4 at night ... Both fish oils and turmeric are low to no side effects.

 -- Some will scoff again ---- run liberally into your lower back -- topical steroid creams 1%... Or even nasal steroidal sprays ... scoff scoff scoff -- but it works to a minor degree -- but it works ...

- All the above will reduce pain by reducing inflammation

3. Pain -- Paracetamol (Tylenol) 500 mg - take as directed on medical literature... Great pain reliever but nothing for inflammation ...  

    - Tramadol 50 mg - at bed time or when in serious pain.   It can be taken along with Ibuprofen 400 mg.   Both every 4 to 6 hours.  

 

In my opinion it is better to ward off pain ahead of time - rather than to fight it off after it sets in.

 

4.  Muscle Relaxers - much of the discomfort of back problems is due to muscle spasms brought about by the random and rapid firing of the Sciatic or other nerves involved at the spinal cord junction.   These spasms often go down the buttocks, back and front of the thighs -- into the knee area, down the calf and into the ankle and foot..  Walking is often painful and bending and reaching is very difficult ... Sometimes spontaneous severe muscle cramps come about and can make your cry out in pain ... One can have numbness of the foot on the affected side.

 

If suffering the muscle problems described above..

- MydoCalm (Tolperisone HCL) 150 mg.  Take as directed in the day time - about every 4 to 6 hours .-- it does not cause you to become drowsy ... 

 

- Muscle Relaxers - at night time ... they make you drowsy and sleep can be good with constant pain

    Musolax - Eperisone HCL - 50 mg.  ... this medication is just a fairly mild skeletal muscle relaxer and has a side effect of helping to        induce sleep.

 

    Liobac (Baclofen 10 mg.).  This is a muscle relaxer that works via the CNS - Central Nervous System.   This drug is a good sleep             inducer without bad side effects.  And is extremely effective in relaxing muscles in the upper legs and lower legs and feet.

 

You may not need all that I take ... but if you decide to try - all of these are available OTC - Over the Counter in Thailand .

 

 

I am not a doctor -- just relating what I do ... follow suit in any way - if you please... up to you... 

While not a doctor - I know Sciatica from much personal experience.  And I know the associated hip and knee pain that can happen... Also I am while not a doctor -- I am very well educated in science - medical subjects and general health situation - education and many years of experience... 

  

 

Your answer especially what you describe under muscle relaxants (4) fits very well.

Only other problem I have is psoriasis, soles of feet, but that is responding to Daivonex.

[overherebc]

15 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

NSAIDs like diclofenac (votaren), iburpofen, mefanamic acid (Ponstan) ,  etc  are often effective but should not be  taken if you are on blood thinners, have any sort of coagulation disorder, or have ulcers or gastritis. Read up on contrai dications and side effects.

 

Depending on the cause of the pain, physical therapy can also often be very helpful.

 

Had lower back pains for a long time following falling off motorbikes etc when I was an uncouth youth, ( in my 30's ?).

Massage does help but only if done by someone who knows what they are doing.

[chubby]

On 10/2/2016 at 3:13 AM, JDGRUEN said:

Everyone will say that you need to see a doctor ... But I understand - and I have some specific remedies to share that I use ... 

 

1. On the affected area of your hip and at lower back ... usually the Sciatic Nerve area... at never junctions use ICE packs - not heat... at Cramped Muscle sites you can use heat.   These will help the hip also .. .the hip problem may be due to osteoarthritis - but (some will scoff but so be it) - the hip problem may also be due to the Sciatic Nerve problem ... 

 

2.  Anti-inflammatory meds... Your pain may well be related to inflammation - at the Sciatic nerve area -- L5-S1... vertebrae.  The disc here may be bulging and is touching the Sciatic nerve ... The Sciatic nerve may be red - raw and inflamed due to the disc tissue touching the Sciatic nerve setting up an allergic type reaction of the nerve tissue... 

  -- use anti-inflammatory drugs such as Naproxin Sodium (brand name Aleve) ... you will need to take this with meals - and never on an empty stomach.

  -  natural anti-inflammatory drugs -- Omega 3 Fish or better yet Krill oils - take more than recommended for a long time... Turmeric - from the root... capsules -- take 3-4 in the morning and 3-4 at night ... Both fish oils and turmeric are low to no side effects.

 -- Some will scoff again ---- run liberally into your lower back -- topical steroid creams 1%... Or even nasal steroidal sprays ... scoff scoff scoff -- but it works to a minor degree -- but it works ...

- All the above will reduce pain by reducing inflammation

3. Pain -- Paracetamol (Tylenol) 500 mg - take as directed on medical literature... Great pain reliever but nothing for inflammation ...  

    - Tramadol 50 mg - at bed time or when in serious pain.   It can be taken along with Ibuprofen 400 mg.   Both every 4 to 6 hours.  

 

In my opinion it is better to ward off pain ahead of time - rather than to fight it off after it sets in.

 

4.  Muscle Relaxers - much of the discomfort of back problems is due to muscle spasms brought about by the random and rapid firing of the Sciatic or other nerves involved at the spinal cord junction.   These spasms often go down the buttocks, back and front of the thighs -- into the knee area, down the calf and into the ankle and foot..  Walking is often painful and bending and reaching is very difficult ... Sometimes spontaneous severe muscle cramps come about and can make your cry out in pain ... One can have numbness of the foot on the affected side.

 

If suffering the muscle problems described above..

- MydoCalm (Tolperisone HCL) 150 mg.  Take as directed in the day time - about every 4 to 6 hours .-- it does not cause you to become drowsy ... 

 

- Muscle Relaxers - at night time ... they make you drowsy and sleep can be good with constant pain

    Musolax - Eperisone HCL - 50 mg.  ... this medication is just a fairly mild skeletal muscle relaxer and has a side effect of helping to        induce sleep.

 

    Liobac (Baclofen 10 mg.).  This is a muscle relaxer that works via the CNS - Central Nervous System.   This drug is a good sleep             inducer without bad side effects.  And is extremely effective in relaxing muscles in the upper legs and lower legs and feet.

 

You may not need all that I take ... but if you decide to try - all of these are available OTC - Over the Counter in Thailand .

 

 

I am not a doctor -- just relating what I do ... follow suit in any way - if you please... up to you... 

While not a doctor - I know Sciatica from much personal experience.  And I know the associated hip and knee pain that can happen... Also I am while not a doctor -- I am very well educated in science - medical subjects and general health situation - education and many years of experience... 

  

this means paracetamol,  is probably not indicated  fwiw:

 

Information sourced from The Cochrane Library:

Paracetamol for low back pain

Abstract

Background

Analgesic medication is the most frequently prescribed treatment for low back pain (LBP), of which paracetamol (acetaminophen) is recommended as the first choice medication. However, there is uncertainty about the efficacy of paracetamol for LBP.

Objectives

To investigate the efficacy and safety of paracetamol for non-specific LBP.

Search methods

We conducted searches on the Cochrane Central Register of Controlled Trials (CENTRAL, which includes the Back and Neck Review Group trials register), MEDLINE, EMBASE, CINAHL, AMED, Web of Science, LILACS, and IPA from their inception to 7 August 2015. We also searched the reference lists of eligible papers and trial registry websites (WHO ICTRP and ClinicalTrials.gov).

Selection criteria

We only considered randomised trials comparing the efficacy of paracetamol with placebo for non-specific LBP. The primary outcomes were pain and disability. We also investigated quality of life, function, adverse effects, global impression of recovery, sleep quality, patient adherence, and use of rescue medication as secondary outcomes.

Data collection and analysis

Two review authors independently performed the data extraction and assessed risk of bias in the included studies. We also evaluated the quality of evidence using the GRADE approach. We converted scales for pain intensity to a common 0 to 100 scale. We quantified treatment effects using mean difference for continuous outcomes and risk ratios for dichotomous outcomes. We used effect sizes and 95% confidence intervals as a measure of treatment effect for the primary outcomes. When the treatment effects were smaller than 9 points on a 0 to 100 scale, we considered the effect as small and not clinically important.

Main results

Our searches retrieved 4449 records, of which three trials were included in the review (n = 1825 participants), and two trials were included in the meta-analysis. For acute LBP, there is high-quality evidence for no difference between paracetamol (4 g per day) and placebo at 1 week (immediate term), 2 weeks, 4 weeks, and 12 weeks (short term) for the primary outcomes. There is high-quality evidence that paracetamol has no effect on quality of life, function, global impression of recovery, and sleep quality for all included time periods. There were also no significant differences between paracetamol and placebo for adverse events, patient adherence, or use of rescue medication. For chronic LBP, there is very low-quality evidence (based on a trial that has been retracted) for no effect of paracetamol (1 g single intravenous dose) on immediate pain reduction. Finally, no trials were identified evaluating patients with subacute LBP.

Authors’ conclusions

We found that paracetamol does not produce better outcomes than placebo for people with acute LBP, and it is uncertain if it has any effect on chronic LBP.

Saragiotto BT, Machado GC, Ferreira ML, Pinheiro MB, Abdel Shaheed C, Maher CG. Paracetamol for low back pain. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2016, Issue 6. Art. No.: CD012230. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD012230.
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[Bonobojt]

the disadvantage of living in Thailand, no great chiropractors...

 

drugs help hide the symptoms but not fix the actual problem and have all the bad side effects, if I were you I'd want to know whats causing the pain, maybe get some x rays etc...