Blacklisted for 1 yr - Can you fly through Bangkok i.e Staying in Transit

[mongoose11]

Hi,

 

Quick query, friend has booked flight to vietnam but will stop in bkk for 2 hrs. I suggested that with 1 yr blacklist from overstay he might have issues, but without actually clocking in to the country will he be allowed to pas on through?

 

Thanks.

Edited October 7, 2016 by mongoose11

[douglasspade]

Yes. He will be able to transit as he will not enter the country for stay.

[BritTim]

That depends on whether the passenger list is checked by Thai immigration prior to his check in. Sometimes it is, but I believe usually not. He might be denied check in by the airline if they receive instructions to that effect from the Thai authorities. If able to check in, he will be OK as long as he can transit without clearing immigration.

[Fithman]

Yes. Assuming he has no checked baggage (unless it is checked though) and the fight to Vietnam leaves from the same airport.

[smartglassphil]

Immigration have passenger manifests for all flights entering and exiting Thailand. Most are checked before flights arrive to give a "heads up" to immigration, even transiting passengers.

[natway09]

If he boards his flight OK coming to Swampe he will have no problem transiting.

But cannot clear immigration to collect any baggage so ensure he has that under control (same airline is best)

[Autonuaq]

As long as you move on and stay in the international area, you are actually not in Thaland. You have not crossed the border yet.

The border is before customs and immigration, and the are between the airplane, and the customs/immigration is the international area when you enter Thailand by Airplane.

[taxout]

Tickets now have a US$1 charge for the Thai Advanced Passenger Processing System, so the information is provided. What they do with it, who knows. But I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility that his name would produce a hit on the system with some ensuing difficulties.

[KhunBENQ]

On 7.10.2016 at 8:05 PM, mongoose11 said:

Quick query, friend has booked flight to vietnam but will stop in bkk for 2 hrs.

 

Does "stop" mean it's a direct connection (no change of plane) and it's a single booking?

Maybe in this case Thai immigration is not involved?

But honestly just speculating.

 

Fishing people out of transit usually happens in severe cases only (arrest warrant).

Edited October 8, 2016 by KhunBENQ

[taxout]

As well, while I haven't transited international-international at Bangkok, at nearly all airports worldwide these days there's a quick passport and boarding pass check before security. Often the passport is scanned, though against what, I don't know.

[HHTel]

On 10/7/2016 at 10:25 PM, douglasspade said:

Yes. He will be able to transit as he will not enter the country for stay.

 

Absolutely correct.  Ignore all other posts.

[stevenl]

 
Absolutely correct.  Ignore all other posts.

Depends on whether he has to pass immigration, and that would depend on his ticket.

[BritTim]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Depends on whether he has to pass immigration, and that would depend on his ticket.

 

It also (less obviously) depends on whether immigration check the passenger manifest before he checks in, and instructs the airline to refuse boarding. That does happen.

[chainarong]

If in transit you stay in arrival area and don't clear immigration, however that is if the passenger is using the same carrier right through or partner airline , you need to make sure of this as you would have to go through Immigration to the carousel get your bags and reenter , get boarding pass and go back through immigration , that's why carriers like you to use their airlines or partners.

[Wazza1]

Since his first stop is Thailand he may be flagged as not allowed to enter so the airline will refuse boarding. 

[GOLDBUGGY]

I would tell my friend to book a different flight that doesn't enter Thailand.

 

At the last minute airlines may stop him from getting a Boarding Pass as he is Blacklisted. Immigration may check all incoming flights. Flight is delayed in Bangkok and now won't leave that night at all or in these 2 hours. 

 

Why put himself through so much stress in wondering when there are hundreds of ways to get to Vietnam without having to go through Bangkok?

[Ronuk]

If you was Blacklisted from entering the UK or US you wouldn't be allowed on a flight that passes through UK or US airspace in case of a need to land.

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

If you was Blacklisted from entering the UK or US you wouldn't be allowed on a flight that passes through UK or US airspace in case of a need to land.

 

  I do not believe that the OP is blacklisted from either the UK or the USA and he doesnt intent to fly over those Countries .

   But, thanks for that info, anyway

[Ronuk]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

 

  I do not believe that the OP is blacklisted from either the UK or the USA and he doesnt intent to fly over those Countries .

   But, thanks for that info, anyway

My post was in response to how Blacklisting works regarding airlines. Maybe your friend needs to contact Thai immigration and the airline he is flying with to get the correct answer. It could prove awkward to land in Bangkok to be sent straight back to where he has come from.

[anotheruser]

11 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

My post was in response to how Blacklisting works regarding airlines. Maybe your friend needs to contact Thai immigration and the airline he is flying with to get the correct answer. It could prove awkward to land in Bangkok to be sent straight back to where he has come from.

 

If you are denied entry you can choose where you fly to if you are willing to pay for the ticket yourself. If you do not elect to do that then the airline you were on is obligated to put you on their next available flight back. 

 

I don't think Thailand would care where he went so long as he is on a plane out of Thailand. He won't come into contact with immigration but even if he did I think immigration would only really want him out as fast as possible. They would likely have an immigration official accompany him the entire time on the ground and escort him onto the plane. Again this is very unlikely.

 

Assuming the airline lets him board he should have no problem. 

[KhonKaenKowboy]

For the first time in 12 trips from the US to Thailand, Lufthansa made me check a box at online check-in stating that I would take full financial responsibility for my return flight if I was denied entry to my destination.  Guess the airlines have had it with people who have visas or return tickets (eligible for visa exempt entry), who still get denied for a plethora of reasons ranging from the IO having a very bad hair day to being wanted by Interpol.  I think if you are switching to AirAsia, you will have a problem.  "Should" is not a good guideline when dealing with Immigration.  In the US, illegal re-entry is quite a bit more serious than a long list of crimes that could get you deported in the first place,  Just sayin'.

[muzmurray]

7 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

For the first time in 12 trips from the US to Thailand, Lufthansa made me check a box at online check-in stating that I would take full financial responsibility for my return flight if I was denied entry to my destination.  Guess the airlines have had it with people who have visas or return tickets (eligible for visa exempt entry), who still get denied for a plethora of reasons ranging from the IO having a very bad hair day to being wanted by Interpol.  I think if you are switching to AirAsia, you will have a problem.  "Should" is not a good guideline when dealing with Immigration.  In the US, illegal re-entry is quite a bit more serious than a long list of crimes that could get you deported in the first place,  Just sayin'.

 

Do you have a single link to a story about someone either with a visa or a return ticket being denied entry at the airport?

 

The decision to refuse entry is not taken lightly and must be justified, not sure if you have read the relevant rules, but last time I looked "having a very bad hair day" was not on the list of reasons for refusal of entry.

 

A false and scaremongering post, with no substance in fact.

[KhonKaenKowboy]

Here is 20 with visas denied at the Malaysia border...in one day.

http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43487/got-refused-entry-to-thailand

Edited October 10, 2016 by KhonKaenKowboy

[muzmurray]

44 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

Here is 20 with visas denied at the Malaysia border...in one day.

http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43487/got-refused-entry-to-thailand

 

At an AIRPORT, not a land border, that is what you were talking about.

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, muzmurray said:

 

At an AIRPORT, not a land border, that is what you were talking about.

This one was at a airport.

 

54 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43487/got-refused-entry-to-thailand

 

[muzmurray]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

This one was at a airport.

 

 

 

Agreed, that was one case at an airport, that obviously has a deeper back story - certainly not because of a bad hair day  :-)