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28 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Rigging the Election – Video III: Creamer Confirms Hillary Clinton Was PERSONALLY Involved

Seriously, did you view this video?

The video is about the DNC/Hillary campaign using the Dinsey Donald Duck character at Trump rallies to drive home Democract contention that DONALD Trump repeatedly DUCKS answers about his policy positions, his tax return, etc. In an overvoice the Trump campaign complains about the PAC misuse of funds for this scheme, DNC violating campaign and trademark laws, etc. But nowhere is there a single mention of "rigging the elections" nor an implication of such action by anyone being recorded in the video. So no smoking gun on rigging the election.

 

As I have said before, to rig the POTUS election would require the cooperation of 31 State Republican Governors and/or State Secretaries of State and/or Republican legislatures, not to mention the hundreds of county election directors within each state. If Hillary has indeed rigged the election to win the POTUS election, then she would have won over 100% of elected GOP state officials. Such a scenario doesn't exist even in the Twilight Zone.

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44 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Seriously, did you view this video?

The video is about the DNC/Hillary campaign using the Dinsey Donald Duck character at Trump rallies to drive home Democract contention that DONALD Trump repeatedly DUCKS answers about his policy positions, his tax return, etc. In an overvoice the Trump campaign complains about the PAC misuse of funds for this scheme, DNC violating campaign and trademark laws, etc. But nowhere is there a single mention of "rigging the elections" nor an implication of such action by anyone being recorded in the video. So no smoking gun on rigging the election.

 

As I have said before, to rig the POTUS election would require the cooperation of 31 State Republican Governors and/or State Secretaries of State and/or Republican legislatures, not to mention the hundreds of county election directors within each state. If Hillary has indeed rigged the election to win the POTUS election, then she would have won over 100% of elected GOP state officials. Such a scenario doesn't exist even in the Twilight Zone.

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I don't think you're qualified to make judgments about what does and doesn't exist in the Twilight Zone.  You should leave reporting about that to Boon Mee. Clearly, it's where he spends most of his time.

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Actual manipulation of votes is unlikely to change the election outcome. But the hypocrisy is astounding: Elizabeth Warren talks endlessly about how the system is rigged and yet with the single exception of the creep from Wells Fargo, she has done nothing much to change the system: and indeed has watched her candidate do bugger all over a long career.

Hillary=status quo, lip service about change while serving mammon

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1 hour ago, ilostmypassword said:

I don't think you're qualified to make judgments about what does and doesn't exist in the Twilight Zone.  You should leave reporting about that to Boon Mee. Clearly, it's where he spends most of his time.

 

Kudos! No one knows what exists in the Twilight Zone except for those that dwell there...

 

He didn't just cross over. He's got permanent residency.

 

How about a Twilight Zone episode where Trump actually becomes President. Scarrrrrrry :shock1:

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Rigging the Election – Video III: Creamer Confirms Hillary Clinton Was PERSONALLY Involved

 

 

 

Corrupt to the bone!:shock1:

 

It is a total embarrassment to you that you have put up that video with the title you printed above it ! Were you just scanning the tube or Facebook, saw a sensationalist heading and cut and paste without even viewing the video yourself? It seems so. Your credibility is now zero. Time to start anew on here.

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On October 23, 2016 at 0:58 PM, Thakkar said:

 

 

It seems to me that what you're saying is that if Hillary wins, then that is proof that the "fix is in"

 

Where was this "fix" when she was younger and running against an unknown, inexperienced, half black, son of a Muslim with a name that sounds like "Osama" in 2007? Where was the "fix" in her favour when she tried unsuccessfully to introduce universal healthcare in the '90s?

 

There was no fix when Trump legitimately won the Republican primary against a slew of weak candidates with the overwhelming and enthusiastic support of GOP primary voters who, after years of wallowing in a right wing marinade of hate, fear, suspicion and false memes had finally found their hero.

 

Is it really a fix when Trump's hateful, misogyny-laden, racist, idiotic, false, bombastic, assholery rhetoric is rejected by a plurality of decent Americans?

 

if I were a 100-year-old overweight, diabetic with a penchant for unfiltered cigarettes who died soon after eating a cookie, would you bother to test the cookie for poison?

 

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100% correct!

 

I have read of this behaviour before in America! - It was in Salem. If accused of witchcraft you were put on the ducking stool, if you drowned you were innocent of witchcraft, if you could hold your breath long enough and survive you were executed as a witch. Heads you lose, tails I win!

 

The only outcome that will convince the deplorable that this is not a fix is if Trump wins.

 

I never could have thought that a super power and bastion of democracy could fall so far so quickly.

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1 hour ago, shadmo63 said:

Ha ha. President Duturte wins the award for first rat off the s(t)inking ship!!

 

He seems to be a Uturning rat that is clinging on for dear life to a rope that is still suspended between two departing ships.

 

Putting a total idiot like Duturte in charge of a country is a very good foretaste of what would happen if DT became POTUS.

 

Funny if it was not so tragic.

 

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Considering the DAY AFTER trumpy-poo loses and LOSE he will:

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The starkest divide in this election is a new one, between white voters who have a college education and those who do not, and in each camp there is an uncertainty about what the other is capable of. Donald Trump’s supporters fear that the Clintonites are capable of rigging the election; liberals worry that, if Trump loses, some of his backers will resort to mass protests, or even violence. Trump himself is responsible for both uncertainties, having made the possibility of a rigged election the central drama of his speeches, and having refused to say whether he would accept the outcome of a vote in which he lost. Trump’s approach to conspiracy-mongering is squirmy—his accusations are often couched in the indirect language of what is possible, or of what “many people are saying”—and so it has not been easy to pin down the candidate on what he will say if he loses. In the third debate, Chris Wallace, the moderator, kept pressing the Republican nominee about whether he’d accept the outcome. “I’ll keep you in suspense,” Trump said, finally, and he has.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/donald-trump-and-the-day-after-the-election

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On 10/24/2016 at 10:05 PM, Andaman Al said:

 

100% correct!

 

I have read of this behaviour before in America! - It was in Salem. If accused of witchcraft you were put on the ducking stool, if you drowned you were innocent of witchcraft, if you could hold your breath long enough and survive you were executed as a witch. Heads you lose, tails I win!

 

The only outcome that will convince the deplorable that this is not a fix is if Trump wins.

 

I never could have thought that a super power and bastion of democracy could fall so far so quickly.

 

Let's reserve final judgement until after the general electorate has voted. Survey the political-cultural landscape after Donald Trump and the reactionary right gets the Bum's Rush on Tuesday, November 8th

 

Until then the statement in the post is hyperbole from an already overwrought mind that is in overdrive.

 

We are likely to see on November 9th that nobody wins the presidency with 38% - 40% of the popular vote. We are also likely to see that a major party and its nominee who fail to get 200 Electoral College Votes are a disaster looking for a catastrophe.

 

In 1992 in a three-way contest (Ross Perot) Bill Clinton won with 44% of the popular vote and 370 Electoral College Votes (270 needed to win). In 1996 Bill was reelected by 49% of the popular vote. In each election Bill didn't get 50% but he didn't get 38% either.

 

The Americans who scare you the most are the ones whose dayze are numbered in this election. Finally. Conclusively. Definitively.

 

“The Michigan Republican Party isn’t throwing a party for activists and elected officials on election night this year, while Michigan Democrats are planning a big bash at the MGM Grand casino in Detroit,” the Detroit News reports.

 

Times 50.

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Lasting damage?  To whom we ask?

 

IT’S RIGGED=> Trump Supporters Discover Their Ballots Were Tossed Out by Election Officials

From a Trump supporter:
I am a single, Republican mother of two younger kids in small town Illinois. Within my friends, I keep seeing and hearing of all these examples of voter fraud going on right now with Trump supporters.

Three well-respected people within the same household in my town who mailed in their ballots in favor of Trump went online to make sure their votes were counted – only to find they were not going to be counted because the signatures on the ballot didn’t match those on their letter. They would have never seen this if they hadn’t gone online to verify!

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"How many others who have no thought to follow up on their vote are having the same thing happen to them?

We are TERRIFIED in small towns across America of what influence Democrats and the Clinton campaign are having on the votes."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/its-rigged-trump-supporters-discover-their-ballots-were-not-counted-and-tossed-out/

It's outa control, boys! :shock1:

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2 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Lasting damage?  To whom we ask?

 

IT’S RIGGED=> Trump Supporters Discover Their Ballots Were Tossed Out by Election Officials

From a Trump supporter:
I am a single, Republican mother of two younger kids in small town Illinois. Within my friends, I keep seeing and hearing of all these examples of voter fraud going on right now with Trump supporters.

Three well-respected people within the same household in my town who mailed in their ballots in favor of Trump went online to make sure their votes were counted – only to find they were not going to be counted because the signatures on the ballot didn’t match those on their letter. They would have never seen this if they hadn’t gone online to verify!

voter-signature-575x435.jpg

 

"How many others who have no thought to follow up on their vote are having the same thing happen to them?

We are TERRIFIED in small towns across America of what influence Democrats and the Clinton campaign are having on the votes."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/its-rigged-trump-supporters-discover-their-ballots-were-not-counted-and-tossed-out/

It's outa control, boys! :shock1:

 Obvious this was going to happen. So typical of the progressive left to refuse to accept they may be incorrect. That Trump may possibly be a better POTUS than Clinton. That open borders is not necessarily an amazingly good idea. The left just don't get it at all - cheating, threatening and generally bullying anyone that has the stones to disagree with them. Cheating in this election is a given and if Clinton wins there will never be an investigation. All the more reason to vote for Trump and against the bigoted establishment and elites.

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17 minutes ago, jaidam said:

 Obvious this was going to happen. So typical of the progressive left to refuse to accept they may be incorrect. That Trump may possibly be a better POTUS than Clinton. That open borders is not necessarily an amazingly good idea. The left just don't get it at all - cheating, threatening and generally bullying anyone that has the stones to disagree with them. Cheating in this election is a given and if Clinton wins there will never be an investigation. All the more reason to vote for Trump and against the bigoted establishment and elites.

 

Sore losers are a hoot!!

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3 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

Sore losers are a hoot!!

So very true. The Remoaners made Brexit even sweeter - their ever more desperate attempts to ignore the popular vote is classic comedy. After Trump defeats Clinton expect the same frothing and refusal to accept President Donald. It will be awesome to watch this. The left just cannot accept defeat, they will pretend the sky is falling, just you wait and see.

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Just now, jaidam said:

So very true. The Remoaners made Brexit even sweeter - their ever more desperate attempts to ignore the popular vote is classic comedy. After Trump defeats Clinton expect the same frothing and refusal to accept President Donald. It will be awesome to watch this. The left just cannot accept defeat, they will pretend the sky is falling, just you wait and see.

 

are you giving me odds on that pal??

 

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2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

These fairy tales prove the OP is correct. Lasting damage is done with the sheep believing the nonsense from the Trump campaign.

Yeah, it's a hot mess.


 

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Facing potential loss, Trump expands the list of conspirators plotting against him

 

By emphasizing such rhetoric, the GOP nominee — who has a history of circulating unsubstantiated accusations — has sown distrust in basic democratic institutions among his supporters. A USA Today/Suffolk University poll released this week found that more than two-thirds of Trump supporters think the election results could be manipulated and 43 percent say corruption will be to blame if he loses.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/facing-potential-loss-trump-expands-the-list-of-conspirators-plotting-against-him/2016/10/27/7177c1ba-9ba8-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html#comments

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27 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Republican mother of two younger kids in small town Illinois.

Taking this personal experience for the sake of argument, one must look to the responsibility  of the State and County election officials to assure proper treatment of voter cast ballots. In Illinois that responsibility belongs to the members of the  Illinois State Board of Elections who were appointed by a Republican Governor. Any alleged failure to rightfully count a voter ballot is ultimately a failure by the Illinois State Republican Party.

 

As a side note, "In August 2016, the FBI announced that an SBE database containing electoral roll  information had been breached by foreign hacker, possibly from Russia. Officials were still investigating whether the hacker was able to change any information in the database."  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_State_Board_of_Elections

 

 

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58 minutes ago, stevenl said:

sheep believing the nonsense from the Trump campaign.

Reminds me of Tomi Lahren, Conservative commentator who is a host on TheBlaze TV and Trump supporter who was aksed by Weinstein in the The Jamie Weinstein Show podcast to name three books that have shaped her world view:

 

"I'm going to be honest with you, I'm not a reader," ... I don't like to read long books … I have a very short attention span, so sitting down with a book is very difficult for me"

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/10/24/conservative-internet-sensation-tomi-lahren-suggests-clintons-we/21590951/

 

Baaaa.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Lasting damage?  To whom we ask?

 

IT’S RIGGED=> Trump Supporters Discover Their Ballots Were Tossed Out by Election Officials

From a Trump supporter:
I am a single, Republican mother of two younger kids in small town Illinois. Within my friends, I keep seeing and hearing of all these examples of voter fraud going on right now with Trump supporters.

Three well-respected people within the same household in my town who mailed in their ballots in favor of Trump went online to make sure their votes were counted – only to find they were not going to be counted because the signatures on the ballot didn’t match those on their letter. They would have never seen this if they hadn’t gone online to verify!

voter-signature-575x435.jpg

 

"How many others who have no thought to follow up on their vote are having the same thing happen to them?

We are TERRIFIED in small towns across America of what influence Democrats and the Clinton campaign are having on the votes."

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/its-rigged-trump-supporters-discover-their-ballots-were-not-counted-and-tossed-out/

It's outa control, boys! :shock1:

 

A friend of a friend told me...

 

Right. Sure.

 

Thing is that many of these Trump supporters can't even tie their own shoe laces. Have to wear velcro sneakers. So not being able to sign their own name is not surprising. Now every time the Trump base stuffs up their ballots, we are going to get these posts about rigged elections and the dastardly Democrats scaring innocent little Trumplings in their homes.

 

The Alt Right machine is getting pretty good at separating money from the Rubes.

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2 hours ago, jaidam said:

 Obvious this was going to happen. So typical of the progressive left to refuse to accept they may be incorrect. That Trump may possibly be a better POTUS than Clinton. That open borders is not necessarily an amazingly good idea. The left just don't get it at all - cheating, threatening and generally bullying anyone that has the stones to disagree with them. Cheating in this election is a given and if Clinton wins there will never be an investigation. All the more reason to vote for Trump and against the bigoted establishment and elites.

 

I cannot fathom how the US elite affects a Brit who may or may not be in Thailand. It seems around half of the fringe Right posters that remain on these threads are non Americans. It is very difficult to see the connection beyond the old white man mentality and, of course, the overt and extreme racism and misogyny.

 

Oh well. The mysteries of life I guess.

 

It would be useful to see some actual evidence of the various claims. Come on, you've got thousands of emails helpfully manufactured by the Putin Internet Trolls to draw from to attack Clinton. There must be some policy papers on the alleged open borders that can be cited and analyzed?

 

Got anything real to offer the American voter?

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On ‎22‎.‎10‎.‎2016 at 10:43 AM, Morch said:

 

Well you seem to be in favor of various websites and organizations which constantly publish one-sided information. Sounds like a matter of choice, more than a logical conclusion. As for "bashing Trump", quite a lot of the media coverage being bashing may have something to do with the outrageous statements by Trump himself. Seeing as the US presidential campaigns ARE the news, and that Trump is part of it - not too clear what your point was.

Hmmmm. Show us a liberal media outlet that gives as much air time to the e mail leaks as to bashing Trump and I'll agree with you. No chance that that will happen though, as there is no significant liberal coverage of the e mails.

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