A decline in White Knights in shining armour ?

[sanemax]

I have been in Thailand for six years now, predominately in Chiang mai .

What I have observed is that there seems to have been a huge decline in the white knights in shining armour

Typically, middle aged guys , divorced back home, on a pension, sold up and left their home Country .

Who come to Thailand with a big bank balance and look for the loves of their lives and want to invest in a bar and are quite happy to support their new love .

    There did seem to be a regular supply of this category . Going back a few years .

I just dont seem to see them anymore .

  There also seemed to be numerous younger Western  guys happy to live long term with their holiday love .

Move in together, think about moving back home with them .

I dont seem to see them anymore either .

    The cleverer girls seem to have gotton shacked up, and all the "left on the shelf girls" seem to have either gone back to their village or are still desperately trying to find a suitor .

  Just my opinion and I may be completely wrong , as I dont get out much these days 

Has anyone else noticed the decline in the white Knight in shinning armour ?

[The manic]

Silly premise - no real thread here. But yes there are plenty of fools marrying thai women-buying land - building houses and paying sin sot. Not white knights just blithering idiots.

 

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Just my opinion and I may be completely wrong , as I don't get out much these days 

There you've summed up yourself. 

I was there a few weeks ago and seems pretty busy,  don't know where one would go to verify a white knight.

[robertthebruce]

Are you talking about the White Knights with the Bouncy Castle Beer Bellies....??

 

 

[rogeroc]

I think what you say is probably true OP.  It could be that it eminates from much of the Western world where people are getting married later and i believe marriage rates are on the decline, divorce rates are on the increase. For example in the UK the housing crisis is growing because more people are choosing their freedom and to live alone. I think this will have a knock on effect to people coming to Thailand. On top of that with excellent access to the Internet everyone has ease of access to all the warnings about falling for a girl in Thailand.

 

I still get out and about a lot in Chiang Mai and i am sure that the 'girlie bar' scene is in decline. Nearly everyone i know here who lives or spends a lot of time in Chiang Mai now seems to be going for a drink with the lads, rather than being a 'white knight' to a Thai girl.

 

 

 

 

[rogeroc]

16 hours ago, The manic said:

Silly premise - no real thread here. But yes there are plenty of fools marrying thai women-buying land - building houses and paying sin sot. Not white knights just blithering idiots.

 

 

Very harsh, i don't fit the blithering idiot category in Thailand but i did back in the UK and i lost a house there as well !

[Andrew C]

4 hours ago, rogeroc said:

I think what you say is probably true OP.  It could be that it eminates from much of the Western world where people are getting married later and i believe marriage rates are on the decline, divorce rates are on the increase. For example in the UK the housing crisis is growing because more people are choosing their freedom and to live alone. I think this will have a knock on effect to people coming to Thailand. On top of that with excellent access to the Internet everyone has ease of access to all the warnings about falling for a girl in Thailand.

 

I still get out and about a lot in Chiang Mai and i am sure that the 'girlie bar' scene is in decline. Nearly everyone i know here who lives or spends a lot of time in Chiang Mai now seems to be going for a drink with the lads, rather than being a 'white knight' to a Thai girl.

 

 

 

 

 

The go go bar scene is definitely in decline. Hardly see anyone in them nowadays

[swissie]

It may well be, that after years of "warnings" (Press, Books, TV-Shows, social media etc), it has finally sunk in, that long term "liaisons" with Thai females may not be beneficial to the  financial health of a Farang. I have put this as mildly as I could.

Due to this, perhaps a new "breed of Farangs" has entered the scene. Going by: LOVE 'EM AND LEAVE 'EM.

Surely, marriages can fail everywhere. But very rarely will the Farang walk away with a 100% loss of investment in his home country. (Given Legalities).
But a very realistic scenario for a Farang in Thailand.

Possibly and after all this time, the "warnings" are finally starting to sink in.
Cheers. 

[elgordo38]

21 hours ago, rogeroc said:

I think what you say is probably true OP.  It could be that it eminates from much of the Western world where people are getting married later and i believe marriage rates are on the decline, divorce rates are on the increase. For example in the UK the housing crisis is growing because more people are choosing their freedom and to live alone. I think this will have a knock on effect to people coming to Thailand. On top of that with excellent access to the Internet everyone has ease of access to all the warnings about falling for a girl in Thailand.

 

I still get out and about a lot in Chiang Mai and i am sure that the 'girlie bar' scene is in decline. Nearly everyone i know here who lives or spends a lot of time in Chiang Mai now seems to be going for a drink with the lads, rather than being a 'white knight' to a Thai girl.

 

 

 

 

Yes I noticed that to. Seems fellow male companionship is more desirable. Leaves both hands free to drink rather than one hand covering ones wallet. I have talked to a lot of my older male friends and ask why they do not have a lady friend and the standard answer seems to be "I do not need all that drama" They are older of course and are now running into knobber (my new word for the day) problems. They have trouble running the flag up the ye ole flag pole. I still consider myself a White Knight of sorts an honest chap but being this way in the world of today seems out of place. We seem to live in "don't drop the soap" environment today. My lance is a bit blunted and my old nag a bit sway back but never the less I carry on Tally Ho. In some ways I think being a bit of a White Knight has gotten me this far in life so why change horses in mid stream.  

Signed 

Sir Laugh A Lot. 

[The manic]

22 hours ago, rogeroc said:

 

Very harsh, i don't fit the blithering idiot category in Thailand but i did back in the UK and i lost a house there as well !

Some men don't learn the lessons you have. Well done. However, I have never heard of men in the UK buying houses for girls and their families- houses and land they can never own .  Nor do UK men marry 'down' and pay a dowry for the doubtful privilege. What really astonishes me is the low-quality, ugly fat chicks that some foreigners end up with!  Maybe harsh but true.

 

 

 

[The manic]

17 hours ago, swissie said:

It may well be, that after years of "warnings" (Press, Books, TV-Shows, social media etc), it has finally sunk in, that long term "liaisons" with Thai females may not be beneficial to the  financial health of a Farang. I have put this as mildly as I could.

Due to this, perhaps a new "breed of Farangs" has entered the scene. Going by: LOVE 'EM AND LEAVE 'EM.

Surely, marriages can fail everywhere. But very rarely will the Farang walk away with a 100% loss of investment in his home country. (Given Legalities).
But a very realistic scenario for a Farang in Thailand.

Possibly and after all this time, the "warnings" are finally starting to sink in.
Cheers. 

99% of us love them and leave them. They are professional sex workers and great fun but they are not wife material. They expect this. As for the deluded and inadequate men who buy land and houses and give it away, often repeatedly- there is something wrong with them. As for paying sin sot for a bar girl - that's plainly stupid. If you must marry a Thai marry 'up' so you improve your social status and improve your material life.

[Jimbo2014]

The white knights may be learning not to charge into the fray wearing nothing more than a latex outfit and bullwhip pumped up on Singha beer.  Best spend a bit of time surveying the terrain and learn to joust but not try to take the mare back home. 

[terminatorchiangmai]

I stopped being a white knight after my wife found out.

No i am the black knight. 

[Emster23]

Hard to keep a shine on metal here: everything rusts. I imagine sailors clubbing Dodos to death back when never dreamed they would go extinct.

[Deepinthailand]

On 27/10/2016 at 0:27 AM, The manic said:

Silly premise - no real thread here. But yes there are plenty of fools marrying thai women-buying land - building houses and paying sin sot. Not white knights just blithering idiots.

 

Now now don't be to hard on yourself.

We can't all sit on a bar stool and notch up thread post count.

[Deepinthailand]

Surely, marriages can fail everywhere. But very rarely will the Farang walk away with a 100% loss of investment in his home country. (Given Legalities).
But a very realistic scenario for a Farang in Thailand.

 

not quite true I could point you in the direction of thousands of guys in the UK alone who through divorce or break up of long term relationships (which is now as bad as divorce). have literally been left with the shirt on there back. Been there seen it and been dumped on. But bounced back. As for here I don't want to walk away with anything. I committed here and will pop my glogs here. Burn here. We are all diffrent thank god, so therefore all outcomes are never the same regardless of how lots on here want it to be or indeed expect it to be.

Edited October 28, 2016 by Deepinthailand

[stephen tracy]

20 hours ago, swissie said:

It may well be, that after years of "warnings" (Press, Books, TV-Shows, social media etc), it has finally sunk in, that long term "liaisons" with Thai females may not be beneficial to the  financial health of a Farang. I have put this as mildly as I could.

Due to this, perhaps a new "breed of Farangs" has entered the scene. Going by: LOVE 'EM AND LEAVE 'EM.

Surely, marriages can fail everywhere. But very rarely will the Farang walk away with a 100% loss of investment in his home country. (Given Legalities).
But a very realistic scenario for a Farang in Thailand.

Possibly and after all this time, the "warnings" are finally starting to sink in.
Cheers. 

Often seems to be a lot of confusion among TV members over the difference between "Thai females" and Thai prostitutes. 

[monkey4u]

My missus left my shining armour out in the rain

Now I'm just a broken down OLD rusty knight

[Deepinthailand]

38 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

Often seems to be a lot of confusion among TV members over the difference between "Thai females" and Thai prostitutes. 

No no confusion just bitterness and farang loathing all things female

[Fabricus]

3 hours ago, The manic said:

If you must marry a Thai marry 'up' so you improve your social status and improve your material life.

 

Good advice, but easier said than done.

 

Almost all farangs marry down.

 

How many farangs here in Thailand marry successful, independent, career-oriented women who own property? In the rare cases when this does happen, the women in question are generally manky old spinsters that no one else wants. 

[tutsiwarrior]

many ex White Knights are diabetic, dysfunctional and know their limitations...better the Friar Tuck repose these days...

[gandalf12]

1 hour ago, Fabricus said:

 

Good advice, but easier said than done.

 

Almost all farangs marry down.

 

How many farangs here in Thailand marry successful, independent, career-oriented women who own property? In the rare cases when this does happen, the women in question are generally manky old spinsters that no one else wants. 

I suggest you leave your bar stool and start entering the real world. Yes there are Thai women out to get what they can but there are women in every country like that.

There are also professional women who are not like that. I am married to one.

If you are going to tar everyone with the same brush start by looking at yourself. Take a hard look and see the real you, not exactly a catch are you? Pot belly maybe who's idea of are good time is sitting at a the bar getting slowly smashed.

When you are perfect then you make sweeping comments but not before.

[swissie]

6 hours ago, The manic said:

Some men don't learn the lessons you have. Well done. However, I have never heard of men in the UK buying houses for girls and their families- houses and land they can never own .  Nor do UK men marry 'down' and pay a dowry for the doubtful privilege. What really astonishes me is the low-quality, ugly fat chicks that some foreigners end up with!  Maybe harsh but true.

 

 

 

I have often wondered about the same thing. Relatively "handsum" Farang men with unattractive Thai wife's.

Maybe the thinking is: " A very average looking woman is less likely to abandon ship, as opposed to a "stunner"."

- But, if the goal is to achieve a certain financial goal and upon having achieved this goal and she decides that "the game is up", then it is irrelevant if she is a porker or a stunner.

Aaahhhhh........ if only we could look into their heads !
Cheers.  

 

[giddyup]

2 hours ago, Fabricus said:

 

Good advice, but easier said than done.

 

Almost all farangs marry down.

 

How many farangs here in Thailand marry successful, independent, career-oriented women who own property? In the rare cases when this does happen, the women in question are generally manky old spinsters that no one else wants. 

Another uninformed, ignorant post from someone who specialises in uninformed ignorant posts.

[swissie]

4 hours ago, stephen tracy said:

Often seems to be a lot of confusion among TV members over the difference between "Thai females" and Thai prostitutes. 

There is a fine line.

My experience: 7/11 cashiers (and others) are not categorically opposed to increase their income in their spare time (if the price is right). Shocking to some, I am sure.
Of course, I look and behave like a werewolf. Maybe that does the trick.
Cheers.

[sanemax]

34 minutes ago, swissie said:

I have often wondered about the same thing. Relatively "handsum" Farang men with unattractive Thai wife's.

Maybe the thinking is: " A very average looking woman is less likely to abandon ship, as opposed to a "stunner"."

- .  

 

 

    Maybe the two people actually like each other ?

Maybe she is quite a nice person ?

[stephen tracy]

12 minutes ago, swissie said:

There is a fine line.

My experience: 7/11 cashiers (and others) are not categorically opposed to increase their income in their spare time (if the price is right). Shocking to some, I am sure.
Of course, I look and behave like a werewolf. Maybe that does the trick.
Cheers.

Perhaps, but they're a minority... otherwise they wouldn't bother 7/11, they'd just go full-time. 

[Grubster]

On October 27, 2016 at 9:59 PM, swissie said:

It may well be, that after years of "warnings" (Press, Books, TV-Shows, social media etc), it has finally sunk in, that long term "liaisons" with Thai females may not be beneficial to the  financial health of a Farang. I have put this as mildly as I could.

Due to this, perhaps a new "breed of Farangs" has entered the scene. Going by: LOVE 'EM AND LEAVE 'EM.

Surely, marriages can fail everywhere. But very rarely will the Farang walk away with a 100% loss of investment in his home country. (Given Legalities).
But a very realistic scenario for a Farang in Thailand.

Possibly and after all this time, the "warnings" are finally starting to sink in.
Cheers. 

Yes very well indeed if you are here with everything you have you are an idiot. I and many I know have enough saved and accumulated back home from working hard for many years that losing a house, car, wife, here won't bother me much. If you are here married or not building a house or not, and you don't have enough money to go back home at anytime and live comfortable than yes you are an idiot. You can only lose what you spend here, same as at home. The love em and leave em thing is and has never been for me, but when a relationship goes bad then I'm gone, and I don't fight over the things I have bought. No worries man, its a good life.

[Grubster]

8 hours ago, The manic said:

99% of us love them and leave them. They are professional sex workers and great fun but they are not wife material. They expect this. As for the deluded and inadequate men who buy land and houses and give it away, often repeatedly- there is something wrong with them. As for paying sin sot for a bar girl - that's plainly stupid. If you must marry a Thai marry 'up' so you improve your social status and improve your material life.

I already have a very successful material life, no need to marry up, I would like to be with someone I love, and at least believe the feeling is mutual, Good luck with your plan I bet you'll get rich with that attitude, I hope so as I bet you aren't worth much now.

[chicowoodduck]

Geez, never a decline in the quality expat White Knights here in Pattaya....?