Supreme Court to rule in Virginia transgender case

[rooster59]

Supreme Court to rule in Virginia transgender case

MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press
ALANNA DURKIN RICHER, Associated Press

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court will take up transgender rights for the first time in the case of a Virginia school board that wants to prevent a transgender teenager from using the boys' bathroom at his high school.

 

The justices said Friday they will hear the appeal from the Gloucester County school board sometime next year. The high court's order means that student Gavin Grimm will not be able to use the boys' bathroom in the meantime.

 

The court could use the case to resolve similar disputes across the country, said Shannon Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights. "Obviously, for transgenderpeople, the stakes of this case are incredibly high. Whatever the court rules in Grimm may ensure that transgender people are accepted and included as equal members of our society, or it may relegate them to outsiders for decades to come," Minter said.

 

A lower court had ordered the school board to accommodate Grimm, but the justices in August put that order on hold while they considered whether to hear the appeal.

 

Grimm, a 17-year-old high school senior, was born female but identifies as male. He was allowed to use the boys' restroom at his high school for several weeks in 2014. But after some parents complained, the school board adopted a policy requiring students to use either the restroom that corresponds with their biological gender or a private, single-stall restroom. Grimm is backed by the Obama administration in his argument that the policy violates Title IX, a federal law that bars sex discrimination in schools.

 

"I never thought that my restroom use would ever turn into any kind of national debate," Grimm said in a statement issued after the court announced it will hear his case. "The only thing I ever asked for was the right to be treated like everyone else. While I'm disappointed that I will have to spend my final school year being singled out and treated differently from every other guy, I will do everything I can to make sure that other transgender students don't have to go through the same experience."

 

Gloucester County school board chairman Troy Andersen praised the court for agreeing to hear what he called a difficult case. "The board looks forward to explaining to the Court that its restroom and locker room policy carefully balances the interests of all students and parents in the Gloucester County school system," Andersen said.

 

The Education Department says transgender students should be allowed to use restrooms and locker rooms consistent with their gender identities.

 

Among the issues in the case is whether the department's guidance should have the force of law.

 

Similar lawsuits are pending around the country. The Obama administration has sued North Carolina over a state law aimed at restricting transgender students to bathrooms that correspond to their biological genders.

 

A federal judge in Texas has sided with Texas and 12 other states in issuing a nationwide hold on the administration's directive to public schools, issued in May. The directive tells schools to allow transgender students to use the bathroom and locker room consistent with their gender identity.

 

The case probably will be heard in the winter, and it is by no means certain that there will be a ninth justice to fill the seat left vacant by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia in February. Senate Republicans have refused to act on Judge Merrick Garland's nomination to the high court. A tie vote would be a victory for Grimm, who won in the lower courts, but would leave the issue unresolved nationally.

 

The Supreme Court split 5 to 3 in August to put the court order in Grimm's case on hold. At the time, Justice Stephen Breyer said he was providing a fifth vote to go along with the four more conservative justices to "preserve the status quo" until the court decided whether to weigh in. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan dissented.

 

Grimm had urged the court not to take up his case.

 

The school board asked the court to settle the matter now. It said that allowing Grimm to use the boys restroom raises privacy concerns and may cause some parents to pull their children out of school.

 

The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond sided with Grimm in April, saying the federal judge who previously dismissed Grimm's Title IX discrimination claim ignored the Education Department's guidance on bathroom use.

 

The appeals court reinstated Grimm's Title IX claim and sent it back to the district court for further consideration. The judge then issued the order in favor of Grimm.

 

 

-- © Associated Press 2016-10-29

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

A lower court had ordered the school board to accommodate Grimm

If Hillary becomes POTUS it's likely the court will remain 8 justices. If they split 4-4 the lower court ruling automatically prevails. Hopefully scenarios like that will encourage Republican Senators to allow appointment of the 9th judges.

[Saraburi121]

I have used same sex squat toilets without stall restrooms in a few countries.  Not the same as a school though.  Never paid much attention to it in Thailand, if you have to go you have to go.   Do you put urinals in the ladies bathrooms?  Put squat toilets in all bathrooms and no one will worry about what hardware they have, only the pain the legs and back.

[Jingthing]

Let my people piss! 

[phantomfiddler]

The stakes are incredibly high ? What planet are they on ? There are people in Africa and elsewhere dying of starvation and some bunch of mental midgets in U.S. are complaining about which restroom to use !! As long as the is an available place to take a leak surely nothing else really matters. Lighten up :)

[Saraburi121]

25 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

The stakes are incredibly high ? What planet are they on ? There are people in Africa and elsewhere dying of starvation and some bunch of mental midgets in U.S. are complaining about which restroom to use !! As long as the is an available place to take a leak surely nothing else really matters. Lighten up :)

Not all cultures are the same, the news story was like all news overstated and intended to sell news.  In many countries its ok to go by the side of the road for men.  In some countries women can not step foot in a bathroom a man has been. I leave it for the culture to figure it out without calling them mental midgets.  Be sensitive to where you pee in the world, seriously.  As for the African food crisis I have not idea what it has to do with this thread?

[Shot]

[LukKrueng]

The idea to go to court for a pissing place is ridiculous!! The reason there are male/female toilets / showers / dressing rooms segregation is because most people feel uncomfortable to do their business in the presence of people of the other sex. A man that has decided he is a woman, or a woman that has decided she is a man, and insists on going into the toilets  / dressing room of their "chosen sex" only thinks about his/her feelings, with total disregard to others, while demanding all those others to respect his/hers. You were born a John and want to put on a dress and be called Joanna - fine, I don't care. Most people don't care and will probably call you Joanna (same goes for a born Christina changed to Christopher...). With equal opportunity employment both Joanna and Christopher can chose any occupation they like, provided they have what they need for that job. But forcing your way into the toilets / showers / dressing rooms of your chosen sex is simply unsocial behavior. 

[Jingthing]

Giving this kid equal time. 

Gender i.d. is not a choice.

Quote

"My school board made that decision for me. But now that I am visible, I want to use my position to help the country see transgender people like me as real people just living our lives. We are not perverse. We are not broken. We are not sick. We are not freaks. We cannot change who we are. Our gender identities are as innate as anyone else’s."

http://www.advocate.com/transgender/2016/10/27/gavin-grimm-case-has-major-implications-transgender-students

[212Roger]

So, let me get this straight.  (Perhaps wrong word to use).  We are talking about children, not adults.  So, it's O.K. with everyone that an 18 senior high school boy showers with your 14 year old freshman daughter?  That is not proper; that is not progress.

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, 212Roger said:

So, let me get this straight.  (Perhaps wrong word to use).  We are talking about children, not adults.  So, it's O.K. with everyone that an 18 senior high school boy showers with your 14 year old freshman daughter?  That is not proper; that is not progress.

Shameless transphobic fear mongering.

The case has nothing to do with your fantasies. 

[4evermaat]

The fact that there is a debate on gender identity on a national level is  just a sign of the times really.  The human is indeed an interesting character.

 

From a legal standpoint, I think the person should have to wait until he is 18 or the legal age of majority to switch gender identities.  An exception might be with parental consent and a doctor's note.  

 

Q: How often can someone legitimately re-identify their sex?

Edited October 29, 2016 by 4evermaat

[ScotBkk]

So, let me get this straight.  (Perhaps wrong word to use).  We are talking about children, not adults.  So, it's O.K. with everyone that an 18 senior high school boy showers with your 14 year old freshman daughter?  That is not proper; that is not progress.

Sometimes I've never been comfortable in this body.

I'm really a young handsome athletic man stuck in some fat baldy pot bellied old bastard corpse, trying to dig myself out not caring what toilet I care to have a piss in !!!


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