Enoon Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, Jip99 said: Anybody else see the immense irony in this ? If there is any irony in this it is utterly invisible to the mass of the Thai people. They are the ones that matter. Eat your heart out General. Make a feast of it with your friends on ThaiVisa. Edited November 6, 2016 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 12 hours ago, Jip99 said: Anybody else see the immense irony in this ? The former puppeteer PM in a desperate attempt to clean up big brother's intentional mess...... that's indeed an irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freed1948 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 11 hours ago, geriatrickid said: And some people would rather purchase escalators and elevators manufactured in China. What's your point? BTW neither Myanmar nor Vietnam exports rice to the Thai market. Myanmar exports mostly to China as it is a defacto economic colony and Vietnam exports to regions with relatively non existant food quality import standards, such as the Philippines, Iraq, Africa etc. So you go right ahead and chow down on that rice. No. I see someone who is trying to highlight the travails of the rice farmers, a segment of the population that has been ignored by a military administration. It seems that the military rulers of Thailand would rather purchase submarines and invest in their resorts and golf courses. Why should she flee? Thailand is her home, and a majority of its population still support her. In any case, she is under defacto house arrest. She is surveilled 24/7 by the military rulers. Her phone calls, visitors, activities.are monitored, She has lost right the rright to privacy and the freedom of association that too many people in TVF take for granted. Go back to bed, you're ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hope she makes a smaller loss this time, than her famous scheme did the last time, on the other hand that was only public-money ! Oh, and IIRC both Myanmar and Cambodia do make informal-exports to Thailand, across the border without troubling the border-guards, whenever there is a real price-differential to incentivise them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 She is out mingling with the people and it looks very natural and positive. The junta is in a tough spot if she keeps doing this. She has been politically victimized by the current government, yet she is trying to help solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 BANGKOK — Former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra set up a booth Saturday selling rice from farmers in a bid to help them face falling prices as the military junta keeps a close watch. This is actually a heartwarming story, a person finding their true calling, doing a job that suits her qualifications. Anything more difficult could come to a bad end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 12 hours ago, tukkytuktuk said: Public relations, look at the video, she's has lots of fans. The junta is watching but not stopping her, this could be the start of a come back. With a year to go until elections, Yingluck is out campaigning early. Are you aware that she is banned from politics for 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 ''He did not want to conclude whether what Yingluck is doing was politically motivated or whether it’s was just a PR stunt, he said.'' Let me save you some time here then, Lt Gen . Sansern Kaewkamnerd. It's a PR stunt.Where's the proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Are you aware that she is banned from politics for 5 years?Detail, details, come the revolution these small details won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 14 hours ago, rooster59 said: saying the jasmine rice put on sale varied in quality as it had not been standardized due to the fact that it was supplied directly by various farmers Look at that, she is displaying some real knowledge about rice in general... and that's all I have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 55 minutes ago, Wilsonandson said: Where's the proof? Yeah, good point...;-} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 9 hours ago, waldroj said: Given her track record with rice, she would probably be better off trying to sell mushrooms! I hope that she isn't claiming this as her soul residence and the mushrooms as her only possessions along with the clothes on her back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sujoop Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, aussieinthailand said: Love your work mate, to bad there are others that come out with bias comment without knowing the facts. The junta must be spewing razor blades that they didn't think of this as a PR stunt first. Yingluk PR stunt or not she is helping the farmers and what is the junta doing? buying UP TO 13,000 baht for top quallity rice, and in the mean time draging YL through court for the same policy, what a bunch of hypocrites and those that cry for her blood and support the junta for the same thing are hypocrites the same........!!! Not same-same. The current program subsidy is much lower (and no double-dipping like the last one). Here's just a sample amongst 853 rice scheme corruption cases - this one involves:Faked rice deal links a red-shirt leader and a Yingluck Pheu Thai party MP and a Thaksin crony insider: Dummy firm tied to govt figures *Guangzhou-based GSSG Import and Export Corporation, was actually represented by a Thai man called Rathanit Sojirakul, who later authorised Phichit-based Nimon Rakdi to (sign) a contract to purchase 5 million tonnes of rice on the company’s behalf. ...Rathanit was a close aide to Pheu Thai MP Rapeephan Phongruangrong, who is the wife of red-shirt leader Arisman Phongruangrong. ...Rathanit, who claimed to be the authorised representative of the Chinese firm, only has Bt64.63 in his bank account...http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/aec/30195106 Telling comment from Yingluck's (Thaksin's) Commerce minister: “(After buying the rice) I won’t be investigating what buyers do with it,” he said. Obviously Yingluck + Commerce Minister were not at all interested in investigating their own corruption laden program but some may ask, so what did happen to the rice in this supposedly 'innocent normal subsidy deal'? *The G-to-G deal was a fake because no rice was exported to the Chinese firm. Instead, the huge amount of milled rice was sold locally at below market price by the Foreign Trade Department to a ghost buyer who then sold the rice at market price to the two Thai firms which have their own rice mills and later on the same amount of rice were pledged with the government at pledging prices which are about 40 percent above market price. The gang, it was alleged, made double profits from the same amount of rice.http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-yingluck-probed-connection-fake-rice-deal/ *Meanwhile, the poorest farmers weren't even part of the program. The program was a calculated fraud from the outset. Yet Shin-shills on here would forgive all because as Yingluck stated 'We came from election' (therefore can do whatever they wish apparently). However, once you have MASS CORRUPTION combined with MASS ABROGATION, SUBVERSION and MANIPULATION of all CHECKS and BALANCES which form the very underpinnings of democracy, then you have made the very intent of democracy VOID. Ergo: Democracy was ceased by the Shins actions (yet again, nevermind amnesty for 'the boss'). The past 2 coups became an unfortunate response to the above, all brought about by the avarice and self-serving over-reach of Thaksin. Simply stating 'but we came from election' is moot once they have all but destroyed the very intent and underpinnings of democracy. But these are the low woeful standards which Shin supporters seem to 'aspire to' for the Thai people... Others reluctantly agree a re-set was sadly needed or the road to an unhindered & autocratic dynasty similar to a Marcos or Suharto or Hun Sen was assured. Ultimately in the rice scheme/fraud, unfortunately Yingluck chose to go along with 'Thaksin speaks / Yingluck does'. In fairness, she had no choice. The result is she willfully turned a blind eye to an 8+ billion USD plunder, therefore is guilty at the least of 'gross negligence of duty' which is specifically NOT excused under the civil liability law to protect public servants - despite Shin-shills hard 'at work' spinning, deflecting and ultimately defending on behalf of a despot multi-billionaire task master. Also, still to be un-done is the collusive network of pro-Thaksin rice millers who prey upon poor farmers like vultures (and collude to drive prices down further). Edited November 6, 2016 by sujoop format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I am building an entire west wing to my house for Yingluck to live in as soon as the Billion USD thing blows over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 15 hours ago, surangw said: she ( and her brother) must have some long range plan, otherwise she would have fled thailand long ago. Like lobbing SB's from abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 2 hours ago, monkey4u said: Selling rice by the kilo, that's a lot of bags to sell to repay the 35 billion Maybe she can do the "turning rice into bahts" trick or is it water into wine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: I am building an entire west wing to my house for Yingluck to live in as soon as the Billion USD thing blows over. Will it be called "The West Wing"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 15 hours ago, lostinisaan said: Planning a comeback soon? Big brother must have told her to buy, then sell some rice. PR. I see the irony, but it comes with a huge part of insanity..... I'm glad that I still got my red shirt ready. Buy high and sell low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Are you aware that she is banned from politics for 5 years? She is not banned from selling rice. She might end up a rice tycoon who needs sweaty politics with all the bears lying in the bushes waiting for you to make a misstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I think Prayuth should have a stand right next to her and whoever sells the most rice wins, using their talents to draw a crowd would be easy - she could cry and he could sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 There's a reason why the translation of >confidence trick< into German would be >Bauernfaengerei< which literally translated back again would be: Catch(ing) A Farmer Terrific shtick though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 1 hour ago, elgordo38 said: Maybe she can do the "turning rice into bahts" trick or is it water into wine? Good luck with that trick Last time she tried it rice turned to crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 2 hours ago, sujoop said: Not same-same. The current program subsidy is much lower (and no double-dipping like the last one). Here's just a sample amongst 853 rice scheme corruption cases - this one involves:Faked rice deal links a red-shirt leader and a Yingluck Pheu Thai party MP and a Thaksin crony insider: Dummy firm tied to govt figures *Guangzhou-based GSSG Import and Export Corporation, was actually represented by a Thai man called Rathanit Sojirakul, who later authorised Phichit-based Nimon Rakdi to (sign) a contract to purchase 5 million tonnes of rice on the company’s behalf. ...Rathanit was a close aide to Pheu Thai MP Rapeephan Phongruangrong, who is the wife of red-shirt leader Arisman Phongruangrong. ...Rathanit, who claimed to be the authorised representative of the Chinese firm, only has Bt64.63 in his bank account...http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/aec/30195106 Telling comment from Yingluck's (Thaksin's) Commerce minister: “(After buying the rice) I won’t be investigating what buyers do with it,” he said. Obviously Yingluck + Commerce Minister were not at all interested in investigating their own corruption laden program but some may ask, so what did happen to the rice in this supposedly 'innocent normal subsidy deal'? *The G-to-G deal was a fake because no rice was exported to the Chinese firm. Instead, the huge amount of milled rice was sold locally at below market price by the Foreign Trade Department to a ghost buyer who then sold the rice at market price to the two Thai firms which have their own rice mills and later on the same amount of rice were pledged with the government at pledging prices which are about 40 percent above market price. The gang, it was alleged, made double profits from the same amount of rice.http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-yingluck-probed-connection-fake-rice-deal/ *Meanwhile, the poorest farmers weren't even part of the program. The program was a calculated fraud from the outset. Yet Shin-shills on here would forgive all because as Yingluck stated 'We came from election' (therefore can do whatever they wish apparently). However, once you have MASS CORRUPTION combined with MASS ABROGATION, SUBVERSION and MANIPULATION of all CHECKS and BALANCES which form the very underpinnings of democracy, then you have made the very intent of democracy VOID. Ergo: Democracy was ceased by the Shins actions (yet again, nevermind amnesty for 'the boss'). The past 2 coups became an unfortunate response to the above, all brought about by the avarice and self-serving over-reach of Thaksin. Simply stating 'but we came from election' is moot once they have all but destroyed the very intent and underpinnings of democracy. But these are the low woeful standards which Shin supporters seem to 'aspire to' for the Thai people... Others reluctantly agree a re-set was sadly needed or the road to an unhindered & autocratic dynasty similar to a Marcos or Suharto or Hun Sen was assured. Ultimately in the rice scheme/fraud, unfortunately Yingluck chose to go along with 'Thaksin speaks / Yingluck does'. In fairness, she had no choice. The result is she willfully turned a blind eye to an 8+ billion USD plunder, therefore is guilty at the least of 'gross negligence of duty' which is specifically NOT excused under the civil liability law to protect public servants - despite Shin-shills hard 'at work' spinning, deflecting and ultimately defending on behalf of a despot multi-billionaire task master. Also, still to be un-done is the collusive network of pro-Thaksin rice millers who prey upon poor farmers like vultures (and collude to drive prices down further). I like both your arguments. but unfortunately the junta as it seems, is not the saviour for thailand to a previously failed democratically elected party. Imo, even if the elections were to come, what real good choices does Thailand really have ? i cringed at the thought of either pheu thai or democrats n even the junta. Thailand really deserves much better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 16 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Honestly, given her history with rice... Was she selling it for less than she bought it for??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, Basil B said: Was she selling it for less than she bought it for??? Taking into account transport costs...yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkerry Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 No doubt consideration is being given to having her charged under section 44... selling rice without a licence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDave Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 16 hours ago, geriatrickid said: <snip> Myanmar exports mostly to China as it is a defacto economic colony and Vietnam exports to regions with relatively non existant food quality import standards, such as the Philippines, Iraq, Africa etc. So you go right ahead and chow down on that rice. <snip> I wouldn't classify the US as a country with relatively non-existent food quality import standards. My wife sold jasmine rice imported from Vietnam in her retail business in the US. The quality was far superior, and the price was lower than rice imported from Thailand. The only problem was that she couldn't get enough of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 2 hours ago, klauskunkel said: I think Prayuth should have a stand right next to her and whoever sells the most rice wins, using their talents to draw a crowd would be easy - she could cry and he could sing. Not exactly a fair contest Prayuth's singing would make anyone cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 He could sing "weevil, weevil, lock you up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 18 hours ago, tukkytuktuk said: Public relations, look at the video, she's has lots of fans. The junta is watching but not stopping her, this could be the start of a come back. With a year to go until elections, Yingluck is out campaigning early. no way the army will let her run in the next elections which i suspect are still a few years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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