Robbery at Pattaya diner. Was it the fake watch vendor?

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Robbery at Pattaya diner. Was it the fake watch vendor?

By Digital Admin -

 

 

PATTAYA: -- At 9pm, on the evening of November 9, Pattaya police received reports of a theft at Lee Diners, a restaurant on Second Road, central Pattaya.

 

The victim, thirty-eight year old Mr Georges Falque, a tourist from Belgium, was having dinner with his girlfriend, Ms Supab Raksapakdee, when a young Thai man approaced and appeared to be selling fake watches.

 

The couple declined and continued with their meal but, soon afterwards, Mr Falque realized his bag, hanging at the back of his chair, was missing.

 

Inside was 10,000 baht in cash.

 

Investigating officers have taken a statement but it appears the CCTV security system is not working and so nobody has any idea who stole the bag.

 

Report shared by Pattaya One News Team

 

Source: http://pattayaone.news/en/robbery-pattaya-diner-fake-watch-vendor/

 

-- © Copyright Pattaya One 2016-11-11

[worgeordie]

Hanging on back of the chair! ,some people just ask for problems,

and it could just as easily occur in Belgium as here in Thailand, 

regards worgeordie

 

[PremiumLane]

It must have been the cop, he is the one pointing in the photo - that is always an admission of guilt 

[impulse]

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Hanging on back of the chair! ,some people just ask for problems,

and it could just as easily occur in Belgium as here in Thailand, 

 

Yeah, 'cause being scoped out by a guy openly selling fake watches is a common occurrence in restaurants in Belgium.

[zaphod reborn]

Proper shop owners do not allow outside vendors on their premises.  Even though it is Pattaya, a shop owner has a duty to chase them away and report them for trespass.

[Emster23]

Expensive lesson. Hope he learned it and does not need "refresher courses"

[IAMHERE]

6 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Hanging on back of the chair! ,some people just ask for problems,

and it could just as easily occur in Belgium as here in Thailand, 

regards worgeordie

 

Nope, Belgium is too cold to eat outside at least half the year. So, it could easily occur only half as often in Belgium.

[gdgbb]

5 hours ago, zaphod reborn said:

Proper shop owners do not allow outside vendors on their premises.  Even though it is Pattaya, a shop owner has a duty to chase them away and report them for trespass.

A shop owner has no duty to chase anyone away unless they want to, it's their premises.  They have just as little duty to report them for trespass.

[Sphere]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

...the CCTV security system is not working...

 

Quelle surprise....

[tifino]

 

... did she get paid? and also have to pay for the meal...

[Rimmer]

Some off topic bickering and replies have been removed

[SOTIRIOS]

...gotta wonder if this wasn't staged then.....

 

...camera was 'conveniently' not working....???

 

...sounds like this guy was 'marked'.....

 

 

....define 'girlfriend'.......???

 

[jobsworth]

does anybody know where is "lee diners" on second road or does this place have another name?

 

[mercman24]

what i hate about Pattaya, is the stream of vendors one after another  coming right into the bars hassling you to buy something, dont get that in Bangkok,

[JHolmesJr]

Looks like he got Falqued over due to his own mistake.

[Loles]

Could be some-one else too, who didn't make sawadee to pair just stole the bag ...

[Basil B]

On 11/11/2016 at 5:05 AM, zaphod reborn said:

Proper shop owners do not allow outside vendors on their premises.  Even though it is Pattaya, a shop owner has a duty to chase them away and report them for trespass.

 

If only they would...

 

Probably scared of getting a good hiding from the scum that controls those vagabonds.

 

[SimpleChap]

On 11/11/2016 at 9:46 AM, worgeordie said:

Hanging on back of the chair! ,some people just ask for problems,

and it could just as easily occur in Belgium as here in Thailand, 

regards worgeordie

 

 

 

Bit difficult to eat dinner with knife and fork when holding the bag with one hand, isn't it.

[lanng khao]

does anybody know where is "lee diners" on second road or does this place have another name?
 

No but il watch out for it..

[balo]

If you want to bring a bag , wear it on your belt and keep it in front of you.

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[Petesie80]

The watch floggers invade every venue regardless; it is not the owners fault but the customers who engage with them...

[zaphod reborn]

On 11/11/2016 at 5:32 PM, gdgbb said:

A shop owner has no duty to chase anyone away unless they want to, it's their premises.  They have just as little duty to report them for trespass.

 

There is something called the Restatement of Law.  It is essentially a guide of legal principles that have survived for hundreds of years in the common law.  The duty of an innkeeper (which includes a restaurant owner) is to protect their customers from unreasonable risk of harm, especially where a failure to act makes the premises unsafe (which includes purely property loss).  Obviously, you are far more wise that hundreds of years of decisions made by common law judges.

[gdgbb]

1 hour ago, zaphod reborn said:

 

There is something called the Restatement of Law.  It is essentially a guide of legal principles that have survived for hundreds of years in the common law.  The duty of an innkeeper (which includes a restaurant owner) is to protect their customers from unreasonable risk of harm, especially where a failure to act makes the premises unsafe (which includes purely property loss).  Obviously, you are far more wise that hundreds of years of decisions made by common law judges.

"Obviously, you are far more wise that hundreds of years of decisions made by common law judges."   

 

Well, it's seems that I may be "wiser" (to use your word) than you are, or at least I can read better than you.   What you refer to is applicable only under US law (this is Thailand) and even in the US the Restatements are not any indication of duty and are not binding in any way.   Restatements of Law did not exist before 1923 so where do you get the "hundreds of years" bit from?

Edited November 14, 2016 by gdgbb

[zaphod reborn]

Nope, Restatement is common law.  It includes all common law jurisdictions, not just US jurisdictions, and is considered the majority view without reference to statutory schemes.  Restatement summarizes hundreds of years of legal precedents, even though it is only updated once every few decades.

[Mook23]

On Friday, November 11, 2016 at 1:06 PM, SOTIRIOS said:

...gotta wonder if this wasn't staged then.....

 

...camera was 'conveniently' not working....???

 

...sounds like this guy was 'marked'.....

 

 

....define 'girlfriend'.......???

 

Gf *EXPERIENCE* ????

[surangw]

On 11/10/2016 at 7:35 PM, PremiumLane said:

It must have been the cop, he is the one pointing in the photo - that is always an admission of guilt 

 

 or he suspect the gf was in on it

[surangw]

On 11/12/2016 at 10:34 AM, SimpleChap said:

 

 

Bit difficult to eat dinner with knife and fork when holding the bag with one hand, isn't it.

 

 

and a bit more difficult to  get money taken from a zipped front pocket.

[HLover]

10,000 is enough to buy sleeves.

[NanLaew]

On 11/11/2016 at 0:05 PM, zaphod reborn said:

Proper shop owners do not allow outside vendors on their premises.  Even though it is Pattaya, a shop owner has a duty to chase them away and report them for trespass.

You mean farang bar 'managers' rudely tell them to bugger off whereas the Thai business owner has much, much more kriengjai.

[zaphod reborn]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

You mean farang bar 'managers' rudely tell them to bugger off whereas the Thai business owner has much, much more kriengjai.

 

and if you mean "expose your customers to unreasonable bother and risk of harm", you are correct.