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Prayut urges rice farmers to form groups for bargaining power

By The Nation

 

BANGKOK:-- Prime Minister Prayut Chanocha Friday urged rice farmers to form groups in order to help boost their bargaining power.

 

He said his government was encouraging farmers to unite so that they would not need to keep relying on state subsidy in the future.

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30299756

 

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2016-11-12

 

[carstenp]

Seems like is a Spoken as a statement, we cant help you farmers everytime and tired of there demands all time

 

Quote

“If farmers can’t form their coalition, they will keep making demands” for government assistance, the prime minister said. “Do you think the country has enough money for that? The government also needs to take care of other groups of people as well.”

 

Edited November 12, 2016 by carstenp

[Balance]

I wonder if the PM knows that the last time farmers tried to do that, the leadership was killed.  

[samsensam]

 

co-operatives would be a positive step and potentially beneficial but are they culturally workable given the trust and corruption issues here?

 

agricultural education and diversification should be promoted

[Krataiboy]

Well done, brother! You can't beat a trade union for collective bargaining.

[silent]

18 minutes ago, Balance said:

I wonder if the PM knows that the last time farmers tried to do that, the leadership was killed.  

I was somebody else's idea then wasn't it?

[edwinchester]

19 minutes ago, Balance said:

I wonder if the PM knows that the last time farmers tried to do that, the leadership was killed.  

Beat me too it. The Farmers Federation of Thailand had over 20 leaders assassinated when they tried to collectively improve the lot of poor rice farmers years ago.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, edwinchester said:

Beat me too it. The Farmers Federation of Thailand had over 20 leaders assassinated when they tried to collectively improve the lot of poor rice farmers years ago.

 

So for that reason the farmers should never try again to improve their lot.

 

Back in 1833 at Tolpuddle in England a group of 6 men formed a Friendly Society.

 

Wikipedia quote"

Before 1824/25 the Combination Acts had outlawed "combining" or organising to gain better working conditions. In 1824/25 these Acts were repealed, so trade unions were no longer illegal. In 1833 six men from Tolpuddle in Dorset founded the Friendly Society of Agricultural Labourers to protest against the gradual lowering of agricultural wages.^[2].

These Tolpuddle labourers refused to work for less than 10 shillings a week, although by this time wages had been reduced to seven shillings and were due to be further reduced to six. The society, led by George Loveless, a Methodist local preacher, met in the house of Thomas Standfield.

 

In 1834 James Frampton, a local landowner and magistrate, wrote to the Home Secretary Lord Melbourne to complain about the union. Melbourne recommended invoking the Unlawful Oaths Act 1797, an obscure law promulgated in 1797 in response to the Spithead and Nore mutinies, which prohibited the swearing of secret oaths. James Brine, James Hammett, George Loveless, George's brother James Loveless, George's brother in-law Thomas Standfield, and Thomas's son John Standfield were arrested and tried before Sir John Williams in R v Lovelass and Others.^[5] They were found guilty and transported to Australia.^[6][7]

When sentenced to seven years' penal transportation, George Loveless wrote on a scrap of paper lines from the union hymn The Gathering of the Unions"

 

God is our guide! from field, from wave,
From plough, from anvil, and from loom;
We come, our country's rights to save,
And speak a tyrant faction's doom:
We raise the watch-word liberty;
We will, we will, we will be free!

 

Perhaps the Thai farmers under a different government (this one) will succeed where under a different government they did not.

 

 

[Srikcir]

10 hours ago, rooster59 said:

form groups in order to help boost their bargaining power

That does work - to get more government subsidies.

Case in point has been the public protests and demands from the Rubber and Palm Oil Farmers' Network (covering 16 southern provinces) the Rubber Farmers' Saviour Front to get billions of baht in soft loans, and cash subsidies from the Prayut government.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Srikcir
accidentally hit "Save" thinking there should have been a "Post"

[GOLDBUGGY]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

 

So for that reason the farmers should never try again to improve their lot.

 

Back in 1833 at Tolpuddle in England a group of 6 men formed a Friendly Society.

 

Wikipedia quote"

Before 1824/25 the Combination Acts had outlawed "combining" or organising to gain better working conditions. In 1824/25 these Acts were repealed, so trade unions were no longer illegal. In 1833 six men from Tolpuddle in Dorset founded the Friendly Society of Agricultural Labourers to protest against the gradual lowering of agricultural wages.^[2].

These Tolpuddle labourers refused to work for less than 10 shillings a week, although by this time wages had been reduced to seven shillings and were due to be further reduced to six. The society, led by George Loveless, a Methodist local preacher, met in the house of Thomas Standfield.

 

In 1834 James Frampton, a local landowner and magistrate, wrote to the Home Secretary Lord Melbourne to complain about the union. Melbourne recommended invoking the Unlawful Oaths Act 1797, an obscure law promulgated in 1797 in response to the Spithead and Nore mutinies, which prohibited the swearing of secret oaths. James Brine, James Hammett, George Loveless, George's brother James Loveless, George's brother in-law Thomas Standfield, and Thomas's son John Standfield were arrested and tried before Sir John Williams in R v Lovelass and Others.^[5] They were found guilty and transported to Australia.^[6][7]

When sentenced to seven years' penal transportation, George Loveless wrote on a scrap of paper lines from the union hymn The Gathering of the Unions"

 

God is our guide! from field, from wave,
From plough, from anvil, and from loom;
We come, our country's rights to save,
And speak a tyrant faction's doom:
We raise the watch-word liberty;
We will, we will, we will be free!

 

Perhaps the Thai farmers under a different government (this one) will succeed where under a different government they did not.

 

 

Then hopped a speed boat and all headed to America. 

[billd766]

7 hours ago, GOLDBUGGY said:

Then hopped a speed boat and all headed to America. 

 

Not quite, They went on a slow boat trip to Oz for a 7 year holiday at His Majesties expense and became POME and soap dodgers.