rooster59 Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Video: Israeli held over murder of compatriot in Nonthaburi Image: Daily News Our video this morning shows the arrest of an Israeli man who later admitted to the killing of a compatriot on Wednesday. Simon Nittan, 50 was handcuffed after being dragged out of his house in Bang Bua Thng, Nonthaburi, yesterday. Inside the house cops found the cut up, cement covered body of a man. Police believe it is 63 year old Heliyahu Cohen, a former Israeli policeman who had been missing from a Charoen Sanitwong condo since Wednesday. Relatives of the deceased had filed a missing person's report after his mysterious disappearance midweek. After a grilling from a team of top investigators the suspect admitted to the killing but has yet to give a motive for the execution style murder. His 17 year old son is now helping police with their enquiries to see if he was involved or not. Police found the victim's Yaris car abandoned on the Bang Kruay - Sai Noi Road also in Bang Bua Thong, that is north west of Bangkok. The suspect's Honda CBR was found parked at a PTT gas station six kilometers from the house where the body was found. The suspect said the knife used in the killing was thrown in the trash but this has yet to be recovered by police. The Israeli Embassy said that the suspect had murdered an Israeli national in Thailand 22 years ago. It was not reported whether he had been arrested for that or done time. Police understand that the suspect and the victim met originally in Khao Sarn Road. On Wednesday it is understood that they met at the PTT gas station then drove to the house in the Yaris. The former cop was then murdered and cut up. The suspect would not confirm or deny that the murder was because of a dispute over money as Thai police believe. Investigations continue with the focus also on the 17 year old son who was not named. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-11-13
rhythmworx Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 His 17 year old son is now helping police with their enquiries to see if he was involved or not. A cement covered body in your house, is he involved or not? Maybe the perpetrators of this crime hid it behind the curtains of an innocent man hoping the owner of the house wouldn't notice it was there. Would anyone like a Dime bar? (PS after posting this the original news clip posted here was edited with more information) Still makes no sense.
doremifasol Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Maybe the son snitched the son of a b....
dddave Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Huge backstory here. Bangkok oldtimers here may remember a notorious 2004 murder case in Bangkok wherein a Israeli man murdered his wife in their hotel room, dismembered her, wrapped the body parts in towels and stuffed them into a suitcase. He was seen on video hauling the suitcase downstairs and he then dumped it into the Chao Phraya. It washed up downstream and was opened by someone who undoubtedly got the shock of their life. It didn't take the BiB long to figure out who the murderer was...he had used towels from his room to wrap the parts and those towels had the hotels name embossed on each one. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced to life but somehow finagled a pardon in 2012. The perp in that murder was Eli Cohen, who is now the victim in this current gruesome affair. What goes around, comes around. Som nom nah
tukkytuktuk Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Huge backstory here. Bangkok oldtimers here may remember a notorious 2004 murder case in Bangkok wherein a Israeli man murdered his wife in their hotel room, dismembered her, wrapped the body parts in towels and stuffed them into a suitcase. He was seen on video hauling the suitcase downstairs and he then dumped it into the Chao Phraya. It washed up downstream and was opened by someone who undoubtedly got the shock of their life. It didn't take the BiB long to figure out who the murderer was...he had used towels from his room to wrap the parts and those towels had the hotels name embossed on each one. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced to life but somehow finagled a pardon in 2012. The perp in that murder was Eli Cohen, who is now the victim in this current gruesome affair. What goes around, comes around. Som nom nah http://www.chiangraitimes.com/israeli-who-killed-and-dismembered-wifes-body-in-2004-meets-same-fate-in-bangkok.html
eggers Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, dddave said: Huge backstory here. Bangkok oldtimers here may remember a notorious 2004 murder case in Bangkok wherein a Israeli man murdered his wife in their hotel room, dismembered her, wrapped the body parts in towels and stuffed them into a suitcase. He was seen on video hauling the suitcase downstairs and he then dumped it into the Chao Phraya. It washed up downstream and was opened by someone who undoubtedly got the shock of their life. It didn't take the BiB long to figure out who the murderer was...he had used towels from his room to wrap the parts and those towels had the hotels name embossed on each one. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced to life but somehow finagled a pardon in 2012. The perp in that murder was Eli Cohen, who is now the victim in this current gruesome affair. What goes around, comes around. Som nom nah Once again, Fact is weirder, than fiction!!
Sirbergan Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, dddave said: Huge backstory here. Bangkok oldtimers here may remember a notorious 2004 murder case in Bangkok wherein a Israeli man murdered his wife in their hotel room, dismembered her, wrapped the body parts in towels and stuffed them into a suitcase. He was seen on video hauling the suitcase downstairs and he then dumped it into the Chao Phraya. It washed up downstream and was opened by someone who undoubtedly got the shock of their life. It didn't take the BiB long to figure out who the murderer was...he had used towels from his room to wrap the parts and those towels had the hotels name embossed on each one. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced to life but somehow finagled a pardon in 2012. The perp in that murder was Eli Cohen, who is now the victim in this current gruesome affair. What goes around, comes around. Som nom nah If the reported age (63) of Eli Cohen is correct, it's a different Eli Cohen than the one killing and dismembering his wife in 2004.
LukKrueng Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, dddave said: Huge backstory here. Bangkok oldtimers here may remember a notorious 2004 murder case in Bangkok wherein a Israeli man murdered his wife in their hotel room, dismembered her, wrapped the body parts in towels and stuffed them into a suitcase. He was seen on video hauling the suitcase downstairs and he then dumped it into the Chao Phraya. It washed up downstream and was opened by someone who undoubtedly got the shock of their life. It didn't take the BiB long to figure out who the murderer was...he had used towels from his room to wrap the parts and those towels had the hotels name embossed on each one. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced to life but somehow finagled a pardon in 2012. The perp in that murder was Eli Cohen, who is now the victim in this current gruesome affair. What goes around, comes around. Som nom nah Better do some more research. It's not the same man.
Enoon Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Off to a flying start (wai for all you're worth) on his journey through the "justice" system.
Larry Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Eli Cohen is about as common a name in Israel as James Smith. There was even a famous hero by the name in the run-up to the Six Day War. The Syrians executed him as a spy,. He convinced the Syrians to plant eucalyptus trees to hide the installations from which they would fire down at civilans in the kibbutzim around the Sea of Galilee from the Golan Heights. When Syria attacked Israel a year later in 1967, the IDF simply took aim at every eucalyptus grove looking down from the heights. The rest is history.
Morch Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 The guy they arrested is a career criminal. Was involved in pretty much anything illegal and then some. In 1998 he escaped from custody and made it to Thailand. Here, he was involved in another murder case, related to a drug deal. Was convicted of of assisting to dispose of the body (which got chopped, btw) and was extradited to Israel. That was in 2003-2004. During this prison term he was recruited by the police as state witness/undercover operative and assisted in incriminating others. Things went sour (more demands, trying to double cross the police). Anyway, sentence was cut and he came back here. The victim is NOT the the murderer that chopped his wife back in 2004. Same name, different person.
nausea Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, hobobo said: The arrest itself was just a tad OTT... Given that the last Farang they arrested in similar circumstances pulled a gun, I can see why they might be a tad cautious.
nausea Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, Morch said: The victim is NOT the the murderer that chopped his wife back in 2004. Same name, different person. So the Chiang Rai Times report is wrong then, at least as regards the identity of the victim.
Morch Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, nausea said: So the Chiang Rai Times report is wrong then, at least as regards the identity of the victim. Indeed. The victim is a retired police officer (or prison guard, according to another report).
farcanell Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 3 hours ago, ratcatcher said: Simon Nittan, the Israeli under arrest is a Middle Easterner, but I'd say that farangs are more dangerous overall. Maybe I'm wrong? I agree.... without opening myself to accusations of racism or Thai bashing, but foreigners seem more likely to properly premeditate their crimes. anther couple of days would have seen the appropriately weighted down body part, disappear forever don't mess with Israelis, they are no longer the compliant victims of last century.
docshock13 Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 This from an Israeli news source: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.752688?v=E8F8A72FC7B8594870D6E04C3D5F2B04 Should clarify some of the questions surrounding the perp and victim due to the lack lustre reporting in the OP.
docshock13 Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 According to Jerusalem Post, the victim in this case was indeed the perp in the 2004 murder of his wife/ex-wife (unless JPost has its wires crossed): http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Report-Israeli-who-murdered-ex-wife-in-Thailand-found-dead-in-Bangkok-472400#article=6017NTEwMzMyMEMzOENFMEREODhDMEJDQzY1OTBDRUZGNjc=
Morch Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, docshock13 said: According to Jerusalem Post, the victim in this case was indeed the perp in the 2004 murder of his wife/ex-wife (unless JPost has its wires crossed): http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Report-Israeli-who-murdered-ex-wife-in-Thailand-found-dead-in-Bangkok-472400#article=6017NTEwMzMyMEMzOENFMEREODhDMEJDQzY1OTBDRUZGNjc= The latter (wires crossed). The 2004 murderer of the same name was pardoned after 7-8 years in prison and returned to Israel. Unlikely he would have been permitted back in Thailand under the same name. The victim's family in Israel already complained about the confusion.
Sirbergan Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, docshock13 said: According to Jerusalem Post, the victim in this case was indeed the perp in the 2004 murder of his wife/ex-wife (unless JPost has its wires crossed): http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Report-Israeli-who-murdered-ex-wife-in-Thailand-found-dead-in-Bangkok-472400#article=6017NTEwMzMyMEMzOENFMEREODhDMEJDQzY1OTBDRUZGNjc= The Eli Cohen who killed his wife was 37 in 2004, and would be 49 today. Also, if the picture in the Chiangrai Times article is of the victim, it is definitely not the same Eli Cohen.
coma Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 8 hours ago, dddave said: Huge backstory here. Bangkok oldtimers here may remember a notorious 2004 murder case in Bangkok wherein a Israeli man murdered his wife in their hotel room, dismembered her, wrapped the body parts in towels and stuffed them into a suitcase. He was seen on video hauling the suitcase downstairs and he then dumped it into the Chao Phraya. It washed up downstream and was opened by someone who undoubtedly got the shock of their life. It didn't take the BiB long to figure out who the murderer was...he had used towels from his room to wrap the parts and those towels had the hotels name embossed on each one. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced to life but somehow finagled a pardon in 2012. The perp in that murder was Eli Cohen, who is now the victim in this current gruesome affair. What goes around, comes around. Som nom nah 12 years for murder ? Royal Pardon ? Then allowed back into the country. Must of had someone watching over him. Unfortunately for him they weren't watching when Karma showed its face. You said it. Som Nam Na
Sirbergan Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 4 hours ago, coma said: 12 years for murder ? Royal Pardon ? Then allowed back into the country. Must of had someone watching over him. Unfortunately for him they weren't watching when Karma showed its face. You said it. Som Nam Na You both said it, but you're both wrong … there's no karma going on here! Eli Cohen the perpetrator and Eli Cohen the victim are two entirely different people. Meet Eli Cohen (aged 37 at the time), the perpetrator in the 2004 murder of his wife: Now meet Eli Cohen, the victim who was murdered by Simon Nittan: So there is no Som Nam Na here. Just a matter of two Israelis with the same name. RIP, Mr. Cohen!
dddave Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 "So there is no Som Nam Na here. Just a matter of two Israelis with the same name" It does appear that my post was not correct. apologies for the error. Too bad, really...made a great story.
bannork Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 The murder victim was a former Israeli police officer Eliyahu Cohen aged 63. Now the father of the suspect's wife wonders what happened to her after the suspect and his son (his own grandson) told him she had been arrested by Lao authorities for narcotics at the Nong Khai -Laos Friendship bridge. When the grandfather inquired the Lao authorities said there was no trace of her.
Yahooka Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 15 hours ago, Morch said: The guy they arrested is a career criminal. Was involved in pretty much anything illegal and then some. In 1998 he escaped from custody and made it to Thailand. Here, he was involved in another murder case, related to a drug deal. Was convicted of of assisting to dispose of the body (which got chopped, btw) and was extradited to Israel. That was in 2003-2004. During this prison term he was recruited by the police as state witness/undercover operative and assisted in incriminating others. Things went sour (more demands, trying to double cross the police). Anyway, sentence was cut and he came back here. The victim is NOT the the murderer that chopped his wife back in 2004. Same name, different person. I see that the "Good guys in.......bad guys out" scheme is working out just fine ............
webfact Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 An Israeli man arrested for allegedly killing his fellow countryman BANGKOK: -- An elderly Israeli man was detained by police for questioning after being accused of killing his own fellow countryman and entombing his incapacitated body in the toilet of the suspect’s rented house in Bang Bua Thong district, Nonthaburi province, on Saturday. The suspect was identified as Shimon Biton, 50, who claimed to be a former Israeli policeman like the victim, 50-year old, Eliyahu Cohen. Police investigation stemmed from a complaint from the Israeli embassy in Bangkok on Friday to help trace Eliyahu Cohen who went missing after he was last seen leaving his apartment room at Thanakorn condominium on Charunsanitwong road in Bangplad district on November 9. Crime Suppression Division police immediately launched the investigation by first visiting Thanakorn condominium to check footages of CCTV system and they found Cohen leaving the condominium at about 10 am of November 9 in a grey Toyota Yaris with license plate No Khor Thor 3926. With the bank cooperation, police found several transactions were being done with the victim’s bank account at an ATM at Big C Rattanathibet modern trade store on November 9. They checked the CCTV system at the store and found the suspect, Biton, and his 17-year old son using the victim’s credit card to buy several items for household use which included black plastic bags, mothball, razor blade. The suspect was also seen buying a big luggage from the same store, but there was problem with the credit card when payment was rejected. The CSD police investigating team found out the suspect and his son were staying at a rented house in Bang Bua Thong. Armed with a court’s search warrant, CSD police went to the house on Saturday for a search. When the police entered the house, they were struck by a strong stench of something rotting emitting from the toilet under the staircase. Traces of newly-paved cement were also found. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/an-israeli-man-arrested-for-allegedly-killing-his-fellow-countryman/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-11-14
coma Posted November 14, 2016 Posted November 14, 2016 8 hours ago, dddave said: "So there is no Som Nam Na here. Just a matter of two Israelis with the same name" It does appear that my post was not correct. apologies for the error. Too bad, really...made a great story. Yes. Let's not let facts get in the way of a good story.
kiwikeith Posted November 14, 2016 Posted November 14, 2016 23 hours ago, dddave said: Huge backstory here. Bangkok oldtimers here may remember a notorious 2004 murder case in Bangkok wherein a Israeli man murdered his wife in their hotel room, dismembered her, wrapped the body parts in towels and stuffed them into a suitcase. He was seen on video hauling the suitcase downstairs and he then dumped it into the Chao Phraya. It washed up downstream and was opened by someone who undoubtedly got the shock of their life. It didn't take the BiB long to figure out who the murderer was...he had used towels from his room to wrap the parts and those towels had the hotels name embossed on each one. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced to life but somehow finagled a pardon in 2012. The perp in that murder was Eli Cohen, who is now the victim in this current gruesome affair. What goes around, comes around. Som nom nah 18 hours ago, farcanell said: I agree.... without opening myself to accusations of racism or Thai bashing, but foreigners seem more likely to properly premeditate their crimes. anther couple of days would have seen the appropriately weighted down body part, disappear forever don't mess with Israelis, they are no longer the compliant victims of last century. Something bigger than the picture going on here. Israeli's are not nice people, the country is run by psychopaths.
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