webfact Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Three young men electrocuted after trying to steal Krathom leaves in Surat Thani Picture: Daily News SURAT THANI: -- Three young men were electrocuted in Surat Thani yesterday after sneaking into a man's orchard to steal Krathom leaves. They did not know that the orchard was wired up to protect the crop. The 53 year old owner of the orchard has been charged with drugs offences and manslaughter, reports Daily News. Wiang Sa police found the three men dead in the orchard behind the house of Somporn Dechburi. The were named as Boy, 18, and Geng 16 (both assumed names) and 22 year old Damrat Sutsin. They had burns all over their bodies. They had entered the orchard during the hours of darkness. A large knife was also found and taken into evidence - this knife was to cut the drug leaves from the Krathom trees, said police. Somporn was detained and charged with growing and possessing category five drugs as well as manslaughter in the death of the three men. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-11-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Mains powered electric fence, without fuse? Does manslaughter really cover such an intentional act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 The anti-theft device worked, and the crop has more value than rubber trees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 sad, but cannot feel sympathy here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Thats quite a shock !, I suppose there were no signs up, so the owner knew full well if anyone entering his property, was going to die.maybe should have used a couple of dogs. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 When we built our house the electrician offered to wire up the wall to deter thieves. There were 3 options, scare with a small jolt, hospital, dead. We didn't take up his offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I guess they won't be CHARGED with trespassing and attempted theft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 from a logical viewpoint you might be right - but do you know the Thai judicial system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Sad for all concerned. The 3 boys were very young, who doesn’t remember stealing from an orchard of some kind when they were young? ? I'm sure the man that rigged it, really didn't think it through to the point that someone would actually die. 4 people's and their families lives destroyed over kratom leaves. In the world of drugs, kratom leaves are less potent than marajuana. It should have been taken off the drugs list years ago. Rip boys. Good luck in court old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxtingtong Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Pretty strange the 3 boys died at same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 53 minutes ago, maxtingtong said: Pretty strange the 3 boys died at same time Perhaps the switch was flicked after all the flies were well into the web. Just a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Hmmmm......this will certainly stop repeat offending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Honthy said: sad, but cannot feel sympathy here.... Why's that? Krathom is legal in most countries and is illegal here because it interfered with the opium monopoly in the forties. The owner MUST have been known to the police... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soihok Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, maxtingtong said: Pretty strange the 3 boys died at same time Perhaps not. Electrocution can be silent. In the dark one guy got shocked leading to the other two coming to his assistance and making contact with his "already live" body. Having said that, they are quite a way apart from each other. Sad and needless. Edited November 15, 2016 by soihok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 hours ago, worgeordie said: Thats quite a shock !, I suppose there were no signs up, so the owner knew full well if anyone entering his property, was going to die.maybe should have used a couple of dogs. regards worgeordie An electric cattle fence is almost as effective. It hurts like hell, whacks you with 4000 volts, but is not a killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 38 minutes ago, cooked said: Why's that? Krathom is legal in most countries and is illegal here because it interfered with the opium monopoly in the forties. The owner MUST have been known to the police... 'cos it is illegal. Does not matter why it is so. The owner of the field protected his property and produced krathom illegally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, maxtingtong said: Pretty strange the 3 boys died at same time can be. It is a jungle in the night. The second and even the third not even realized what had happened with the first boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokopelli Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 This is a case of premeditated murder, plain and simple and it happens a lot in Thailand. Maybe people who install these lethal electric fences think they only "shock" while in reality they kill. As someone else wrote, it would be a simple matter of using a cattle-type of electric fence which is high voltage but low current. It is the current that kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tilaceer Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, halloween said: Mains powered electric fence, without fuse? Does manslaughter really cover such an intentional act? As typically anything above 70mA is fatal, presuming you have enough voltage to push the current through the body, I dont think an 8 A or 15 A fuse would offer much protection. Edited November 15, 2016 by tilaceer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, masuk said: An electric cattle fence is almost as effective. It hurts like hell, whacks you with 4000 volts, but is not a killer. When camping wild, in my youth, having drank some beer, got myself out of the tent to pee.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 5 hours ago, Honthy said: sad, but cannot feel sympathy here.... I can't feel any sympathy for a devil who's able to write such a post. Wiang Sa police found the three men dead in the orchard behind the house of Somporn Dechburi. The were named as Boy, 18, and Geng 16 (both assumed names) and 22 year old Damrat Sutsin. Isn't that enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, lostinisaan said: I can't feel any sympathy for a devil who's able to write such a post. Wiang Sa police found the three men dead in the orchard behind the house of Somporn Dechburi. The were named as Boy, 18, and Geng 16 (both assumed names) and 22 year old Damrat Sutsin. Isn't that enough? More than enough. As I said, it is sad but their age does not matter at all. Even if they are young, they were not forced to steal anything by their age. Edited November 15, 2016 by Honthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, worgeordie said: Thats quite a shock !, I suppose there were no signs up, so the owner knew full well if anyone entering his property, was going to die.maybe should have used a couple of dogs. regards worgeordie Then again if its not your property don't come in and take anything In this case all parties were legally brain dead Edited November 15, 2016 by monkey4u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 hours ago, maxtingtong said: Pretty strange the 3 boys died at same time maybe they formed a human ladder? - tandem zap!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 hours ago, halloween said: Mains powered electric fence, without fuse? Does manslaughter really cover such an intentional act? when a mains powered electric fencer would do better safer job, by acting as a repellent Owner took a gamble on high voltage with high current versus Very high voltage low current 50% chance and got it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tifino said: maybe they formed a human ladder? - tandem zap!!! That works with scarewire for cows but not on 220V i think. 220 gives a loud noise and sparks when touched. The guy who touched it first should be roasted i assume (have tried that with saucages). The other guys who maybe helped/touched him should have burnwounds on their hands in that case and have touched him at the same time. But it rains a lot in surat thani, how can you have an open 220V wire out in the open without shortcuts from water? On the picture they lay far away from eachother, guess the wire is on the poles in the field? Edited November 15, 2016 by fruitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokopelli Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Water is not a good conductor of electricity so a wire does not short out because of rain. .Although if someone is wearing flip flops and the ground is wet that will improve their chances of electric shock if they touch the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 14 minutes ago, kokopelli said: Water is not a good conductor of electricity so a wire does not short out because of rain. .Although if someone is wearing flip flops and the ground is wet that will improve their chances of electric shock if they touch the wire. Flipflops are made from cheap rubber, that's a good insulator. During the floodings many people die from electrocution when they are in the water. Lightning in an open field is also attracted by people since the body consists of 70% water. So if i hang a naked wire connected to 220V phase in my garden, 2 metres above ground and use insulated mountings it should not shortcut during hard rain? Almost can't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 hours ago, Honthy said: 'cos it is illegal. Does not matter why it is so. The owner of the field protected his property and produced krathom illegally So the logic is... if someone does anything 'illegal', death is a reasonable outcome? Seems like we're not so different from ISIS after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Docno said: So the logic is... if someone does anything 'illegal', death is a reasonable outcome? Seems like we're not so different from ISIS after all... did I say that really ? The punishment is not parallel with their deed, but I did not even say this, did I . Edited November 15, 2016 by Honthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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