2 hours ago, BlindMagician said:

 

"stop referring to Schooling as Education." - why?

 

Don't you like the word "education" ?

 

Sure, but I don't go to school to learn what I'm looking for - Prussian 'educational' model and all that.

Clear as mud.

5 minutes ago, Shiver said:

 

Sure, but I don't go to school to learn what I'm looking for - Prussian 'educational' model and all that.

 

You not make a much sense....

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, farcanell said:

 

You not make a much sense....

 

 

 

It's simple, but easily mixed up:

 

If a school is good, then it is a place of some kind of formal education.

Education doesn't require a school.

 

I'll lean on Mark Twain for his input, which is often thought of as a joke, but has a real point: "Don't let school get in the way of a good education".

 

So the idea of a school as a place of learning is one thing, but in practice they're more like business models that sell certificates.

If you are able to get access to homework of someone a generation or two before, then it is abundantly clear that the much touted suggestion of the standards going down are absolutely real.

That aside, even good schools (by whatever measuring stick) tend to be indoctrination centres.  I'm the only person in my family who does not have any certification, yet from a couple of years after leaving school I became the leading income producer and it stayed that way (one sister has 2 degrees, the other is at Doctor level and pursuing Professor).  There's no better teacher than feeling the pain of repeated failures.  That was done with just average Maths/English/Physics and I failed miserably in their system, getting 'ungraded' and a couple of D's and E's in other subjects.  Perhaps if they had a 'no fail' policy then I wouldn't have felt the need to put effort into what I was interested in rather their idea of that.  Did I fail or did the school fail to recognise that their teaching methods work well for some and are abysmal for others?

So, to decide if a school is the right tool for the job I would only ask "does it teach you to learn how to learn?".

 

Shiver... I see what you say.

 

by calling oneself a school, does not make it an educator, and vice versa.

It sounds hilarious, but in 1n 1985 TAT announced they wanted to make Pattaya a
Mecca for the elderly foreigners to retire and I chuckled. Now you can't swing a dead cat there without hitting one or walk more than a hundred meters on beach road or the adjoining soi's at night
Without seeing someone hawking Viagra or Cialis.


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15 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

What exactly is your qualification - PhD, Masters in Education?

 

i would say largely true. theres a small % of decent education within thailand (international standard, critical thinking, language abilities)

13 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Well maybe that will help us decide on the value of your opinion of the Thai educational system versus overseas ones.

Anyone meeting Thai people over a number of years can get an idea of their level of intelligence and their , lets say;' intellectual 'maturity. I would think that anyone who has received higher education in Thailand should be able to speak English reasonably well, but the only Thais I have ever been able to have anything like an in-depth conversation with  have received their higher education overseas. My Thai lady also has kids going through state and a private school, and a son has just entered national service after attending some kind of university in Bangkok for a couple of years. My conclusion from their abilities is that the Thai education system is appalling, focusing primarily on Thai culture and religion and neglecting subjects that open and develop their neural pathways to enable them to think critically and open-mindedly for themselves.

 

If u must know I have a 2.1. BA from an English university.

Good Lord. I read only a few posts before responding. 

A hub of higher education. Sure. as long as they hold classes in the Bayoke Tower. or other semi hi office buildings. or Maybe in Air planes at near forty thousand feet.

Just paid THB 320'000 for a one-year term of a five year old in a private kindergarten at an international school. Reason for doing so is that the local system does not provide survival basics after 12 years of primary and secondary education; less than 10% of my staff forced between 20 - 30 can speak basic rudimentary English. 
So, what exactly is this all about; having failed on the lower education they want to reach straight for the higher education hub decorations? 

Hub of idiots! 

They should stick to what they are good at- sex tourist hub, and leave the serious stuff to countries with good Universities.

If I was living and had children raised in Thailand, why not, or if I was interested in Buddhist Theology  yes. For any other reason a foreign student to come to study in Thailand? I don't think so.

On 11/27/2016 at 5:24 AM, lemonjelly said:

What university lecturer in their right mind would work here to be f*%$€d around by xenophobic Thai colleagues and Immigration Dept' ?


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