speedtripler Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, just bob said: PS... Yes, it is sportier and a firmer ride. You pay on the flats and collect in the curves. Its not a comfort cruiser. Its a fun bike. Come on you guys... You're not that old yet. What exactly is the issue with the stock suspension? Is it inadequate for a farang or 2 persons combined weight or just too hard/soft? Also, was there much difference between the R version and the standard version ? I haven't heard from anyone yet who has tried them Both.... Hopefully they will sell it in more countries so we get info we can understand.... Edited July 20, 2017 by speedtripler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainville Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 God I wish I'll be able to rent it in Hanoi Bangkok or Pattaya! But so far, no luck. If anyone knows of a place that rents it in one of those 3 cities for late September, let me know!! I'll gladely pay premium price per day ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknife Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, just bob said: I rented an R version Aerox for three days and gave it a proper Doi Suthep test. Wow! Big Fun! After nine months on the Honda Click shopping trolly it was like getting back on a real motorcycle. I can't stress enough how much stability and grip you get from the 14 inch wheels and wider tires. Its a proper contact patch. I was really concerned about filtering to the front of the queue for the green light grand prix but its no problem at all and every bit as maneuverable as the small scoots. I did some shopping around and bought the standard model in white at the big dealer in the old city, Chiang Mai for 62,000. They were having a 2000 baht off promotion. They threw in a very nice Yamaha branded helmet. I took the savings from the R model and put on the RCB shock in their accessories brochure and ordered a YSS fork kit. Put the shocks on this morning and, maybe they will break in, but I'm not impressed. I'd recommend bite the bullet and buy the Ohlins. Or just stay stock. They're really not too bad. Did you change to the front petal disc also? As I thought that only came with the R version as in the pic of the first white one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Are you thinking of getting an after market pipe? And getting rid of the center stand? Would probably save almost 10kg by removing them. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 hours ago, macknife said: Did you change to the front petal disc also? As I thought that only came with the R version as in the pic of the first white one. I have read those flower petal brake disc's are a waste of time, offer no better performance and eat brake pads faster etc Even the abs version doesn't have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknife Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, speedtripler said: I have read those flower petal brake disc's are a waste of time, offer no better performance and eat brake pads faster etc Even the abs version doesn't have them I presumed that was your bike in the picture you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, macknife said: I presumed that was your bike in the picture you posted. I didn't post the pics, it's a quote from the guy who bought it.... I am interested in this model though Edited July 20, 2017 by speedtripler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just bob Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 23 hours ago, speedtripler said: What exactly is the issue with the stock suspension? Is it inadequate for a farang or 2 persons combined weight or just too hard/soft? Also, was there much difference between the R version and the standard version ? I haven't heard from anyone yet who has tried them Both.... Hopefully they will sell it in more countries so we get info we can understand.... Stock suspension is really very good , though on the sporty firm side. Not like the PCX flying couch. R Version has wave discs, remote nitrogen shock and boy racer painted wheels. R vs Std Versions... I actually think the suspension on the standard is firmer than the R, but that could be because my R demo had 5000k on the clock and my standard is new. Not sure. Otherwise their equal. Both versions are very well balanced in the turns. Surprisingly so for a scooter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just bob Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 22 hours ago, macknife said: Did you change to the front petal disc also? As I thought that only came with the R version as in the pic of the first white one. Yes. 600 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just bob Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 22 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said: Are you thinking of getting an after market pipe? And getting rid of the center stand? Would probably save almost 10kg by removing them. :D No pipe. I like the center stand. Its fast enough and light enough for what it is. I'm more concerned with ride and cornering abilities and keeping the utility. My profile pic was ten years ago. I'm too old to go that fast anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just bob Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 19 hours ago, speedtripler said: I have read those flower petal brake disc's are a waste of time, offer no better performance and eat brake pads faster etc Even the abs version doesn't have them They're lighter but more importantly they cool faster which makes a big difference if you use them hard (which I tend to do on our marvelous Thai roller coaster roads). Less fade when hot. They don't eat pads faster and pads are cheap. They are a waste of time if you ride sensibly like most people do. Unfortunately, I'm a loon in the turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just bob Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 19 hours ago, macknife said: I presumed that was your bike in the picture you posted. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just bob Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Because I can't find good info in English I've started a new thread on this bike on the Adventure Rider website. Here; http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/the-yamaha-aerox-155-nvx-thread.1241635/ Though I expect Thai Visa might be the go-to place for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIMIGLIA Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 23 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said: Are you thinking of getting an after market pipe? And getting rid of the center stand? Would probably save almost 10kg by removing them. :D Why on earth would you remove the centre stand, far too useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, just bob said: They're lighter but more importantly they cool faster which makes a big difference if you use them hard (which I tend to do on our marvelous Thai roller coaster roads). Less fade when hot. They don't eat pads faster and pads are cheap. They are a waste of time if you ride sensibly like most people do. Unfortunately, I'm a loon in the turns. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/33-general-bike-talk/230241-wavy-rotors-vs-normal-rotor.html#/topics/230241 Here is a lengthy discussion about the pros and cons.... I've got a gsx 1250 abs and it doesn't have them but a kawasaki 650 that does... Not sure why they wouldn't put them on top end bikes if they were a performance improvement They're not even on the kawasaki h2 or other Supersports that need maximum braking How is the suspension on the R version? Edited July 21, 2017 by speedtripler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 21 hours ago, MINIMIGLIA said: Why on earth would you remove the centre stand, Just look at the thing! It's bigger than the actual bike, comes from a Soviet era mining truck, and must weigh 190 kilograms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIMIGLIA Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Happy Grumpy said: Just look at the thing! It's bigger than the actual bike, comes from a Soviet era mining truck, and must weigh 190 kilograms! who cares too useful to remove??? checking oil levels etc etc. looks the same as the one on my old PCX, would never remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, MINIMIGLIA said: who cares too useful to remove??? checking oil levels etc etc. looks the same as the one on my old PCX, would never remove. Yes it is very handy, in fact if the same as the N-max you need the side stand up for the engine to keep running, so by putting your bike on the center stand you can leave your bike running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SooKee Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Not sure if it's anything like the Click or even if it has a kick start. But with the Click you can't use the kick start unless it's on the centre stand. Posted using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 On 22/07/2017 at 3:08 PM, Happy Grumpy said: Just look at the thing! It's bigger than the actual bike, comes from a Soviet era mining truck, and must weigh 190 kilograms! I like to inspect my tires sometimes or keep the bike running on the stand to check /change the oil Centre stand weighs probably ~4kg A racing Exhaust will get you pulled over now more than it used to do... Whether thats worth it or not is debatable... I would rather not pay fine every time the bib are out collecting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 TIS Stamped pipes are fully road legal in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Happy Grumpy said: TIS Stamped pipes are fully road legal in Thailand. I used to have one on my er6n (made by tsugiki) They will try and fine you anyway as they don't care about the law, the care about collecting revenue Best not to stop if you can zoom by safely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 A 4kg weight save on such a light bike is a massive weight save for a semi-useful part. Is it even just bolted on? Remove and put back on if desired? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted July 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, DLang said: A 4kg weight save on such a light bike is a massive weight save for a semi-useful part. Is it even just bolted on? Remove and put back on if desired? Why don't you buy one and take the centre stand off ? Seems to be bothering you quite a lot :) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said: Why don't you buy one and take the centre stand off ? No thanks. I want to buy one with it already removed, and expect a 10,000thb discount for buying one without it. So far, no dice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suave Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 You could always just cut off one leg of the center stand to save half the weight while being able to kick stand it to either side! Win win! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 8:46 PM, SooKee said: Not sure if it's anything like the Click or even if it has a kick start. But with the Click you can't use the kick start unless it's on the centre stand. Posted using Tapatalk Take a look around when you're next in a motorcycle park. You'll soon notice that most, probably all scooters have this interlock between kick start and centre stand. It's actually an important safety feature. I'm sure you will appreciate that it would be difficult, if not, impossible to kick start your scooter whilst sitting astride, as one could on a motorcycle. Without this interlock, one might be tempted to try and kick start whilst standing aside the machine and that could result in a riderless runaway scooter. It's an automatic remember. That's the reason why they fit this interlock and also why a scooter always sits 'nose down' when it's on the centre stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: Take a look around when you're next in a motorcycle park. You'll soon notice that most, probably all scooters have this interlock between kick start and centre stand. It's actually an important safety feature. I'm sure you will appreciate that it would be difficult, if not, impossible to kick start your scooter whilst sitting astride, as one could on a motorcycle. Without this interlock, one might be tempted to try and kick start whilst standing aside the machine and that could result in a riderless runaway scooter. It's an automatic remember. That's the reason why they fit this interlock and also why a scooter always sits 'nose down' when it's on the centre stand. I've never needed to kick start. How would you do it on a scooter such as click? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: I've never needed to kick start. How would you do it on a scooter such as click? Fortunately, neither have I. Had it 2+ years now and it's fired up 1st time every time. The kick start really is only for emergency use if the battery dies. I have rehearsed it though. Simply put it on the centre stand, turn on the ignition and kick the engine into life. Then the important bit. Mount it 1st, shove it off the stand and off you go. Not the sort of thing you want to be doing in busy traffic so a good battery is important on a scooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 5 hours ago, suave said: You could always just cut off one leg of the center stand to save half the weight while being able to kick stand it to either side! Win win! But then you would sacrifice the equal weight distribution.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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