Popular Post John DDD Posted December 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2016 ... On the picture of his passport, on the left of the last " signed ", a stamp in Thai language : " คดีความ " Which means " lawsuit " in English... ...This may explain That... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ... On the picture of his passport, on the left of the last " signed ", a stamp in Thai language : " คดีความ " Which means " lawsuit " in English... ...This may explain That...Well, then it's more behind the story. Thanks Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUNCHER Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 16 minutes ago, John DDD said: ... On the picture of his passport, on the left of the last " signed ", a stamp in Thai language : " คดีความ " Which means " lawsuit " in English... ...This may explain That... Surely if he is involved in a lawsuit he can get 90 day extensions until the case is concluded? Also if he could get back in on a tourist visa he cannot be on the blacklist. This sounds like visa/working issues. Something similar happened to someone I know. Immigration put him on the plane, removed the handcuffs and told him he could come back with a new visa and start the process for a work permit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ... On the picture of his passport, on the left of the last " signed ", a stamp in Thai language : " คดีความ " Which means " lawsuit " in English... ...This may explain That...If so, the lawsuit must be abroad. Otherwise they would keep him here. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 How can a lawsuit abroad affect his immigration status here, unless he did time before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Quote I heard that: "It is written in the police order that you get 7 days to leave if your application is denied." Suspect they would count those 7 days from submission of TM.7 - so in that case he had more than 7 days. As for lawsuit, if applicable, suspect it could be against a firm rather than him and the work permit factor might come into play but a new entry just on basis of marriage be allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 17 hours ago, steve187 said: more to this than in the op did someone make a complaint about you. wife or someone? that would get you kicked out pretty quick and the house and other assets are not coming with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: did someone make a complaint about you. wife or someone? that would get you kicked out pretty quick and the house and other assets are not coming with you. If someone can happily post on another thread now and still not clear up exactly what the story is with this one ?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFun Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 16 hours ago, sirmud63 said: nope . you dont need a non b to own a business here , its only for a work permit . You can have a work permit on a non O if married to a Thai national but not on a non O based on retirement. It's also possible to make a WP with only 1m registered capital when you have a Thai spouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbrando Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 11 hours ago, John DDD said: ... On the picture of his passport, on the left of the last " signed ", a stamp in Thai language : " คดีความ " Which means " lawsuit " in English... ...This may explain That... My Thai isn't super-strong but I believe that คดีความ can be translated as "case" (as in legal case) as well, which would make more sense in this "case". 6 minutes ago, overherebc said: If someone can happily post on another thread now and still not clear up exactly what the story is with this one ?????????? So he's not allowed to post anywhere else until he solves his own mystery? 12 hours ago, overherebc said: Since the OP has not posted the real reason I am calling the whole thing SS, not BS but SS. Second S stands for stirring. So because he hasn't solved his own mystery, he must be lying? A major point in his story is that he doesn't know the reason. I'm not saying he's not making the whole thing up, but just because he doesn't know the reason he was deported doesn't mean that he's not telling the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiturkey Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 WHY IS LAWYER INVOLVED for routine extension? Something is not right here. The lawyer could also be part of the problem, maybe some docs. incorrect, or even sabotage! There are very few lawyers here that I would trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Not knowing the reason for being taken straight to the airport from the office when your lawyer and wife are there with you is the part I find hard to believe. Not saying he is lying but at this time with the number of posts appearing reference problems at certain land crossing and closer scrutiny of visa and entrance to Thailand criteria I just get the impression that someone is trying a wind up. It only takes a minute to post on the lines of ' I managed to find out exactly what happened at the office from my lawyer/wife, it seems that etc etc etc' Telling half a story helps no-one. Edited December 3, 2016 by overherebc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted December 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2016 18 hours ago, maewang99 said: that seems weird is it starts off saying "there is a new rule"..... but that is not what the rest of it is about. He seems to have been quite a active poster in the last day or so on a variety of topics so apparently this particular issue isn't weighing too heavily on him. Clearly this situation has nothing to do with a "new rule," and all the speculation about the cause, assuming it actually happened as he said, is just that ... speculation. The idea that it was in response to him wearing an orange shirt in a photo pretty well sums ups the typical flow of logic here at TV. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mduras01 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I fail to see how immigration wouldn't give a reason. They don't just grab you and throw you on a plane. If the reason is personal and the OP does not fully disclose--I understand. Several posters mentioned the wife. It IS a possibility she had a hand in this, whether or not she previously flew abroad to help him; things change. Either way, hope OP gets some positive resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggybanrai Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Personally, I've been visiting Thailand for 30 years, permanently living for 15 and having dealt with various immigration offices in several provinces I can say that altogether, I was always attended to in a polite nice manner by the staff there. In the days when there were never ending queues at the old office in Sathorn BKK, there was plenty of time (sometimes the whole day) to wander around and I was several times given the opportunity of witnessing conflicts arising from the lack of comprehension of the procedure by some ill mannered short tempered farang. Not saying this is the case here, wasn't present to witness. Besides, I doubt that they would put you on a plane out just for being ill mannered. Somehow, there must be some (serious) infringement of the current regulations. Can't believe one sec that this could be related to the colour of the shirt on your pic! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBird Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 It would be interesting to know if one day we can find out what actually happened here. Not from a gossipy point of view, but to understand under what real world conditions this could happen (as we don't seem to get many actual case studies where we can talk to the individual involved). That being said, hopefully there was just a misunderstanding somewhere. It could be as simple as the man in charge mis-read something or made a mistake and ordered his men to escort the OP out of the country, and provided no reason (therefore OP could not find out). Or perhaps there was a bit of paper-work somewhere that was out of order resulting in the same instruction being given to the officers to escort him out. Hopefully for OPs sake it can get cleared up and he can return without any further complications. And hopefully he can find out exactly what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 There is a whole lot of missing information here. If I was with my wife and a lawyer and I had an extension denied- I would not leave until I had an answer to why it was denied. In addition, there is an appeal process that can be used but you spend the appeal time in the detention center. In the many decades I have been in and out of Thailand and many extensions at Immigration- I have never heard of an extension being denied and one then is immediately escorted to the airport. The one bit of evidence is the passport picture- with the Thai writing- 'case'. There is definitely information missing and the OP has to know what it is and it has nothing to do with a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoc Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Hey, smart people, keep doing your extension, then they know who to target ! And people who think that it's smarter to go out for 1 day every 3 months can be safe ! We don't even need to tell anyone what is our address, so i don't think that they will visit us anytime... Life is what you want it to be... Some keep thinking that they are right when they actually are so wrong ! funny ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Quote AFAIAC the whole story is wind up. It's either a wind up or an own goal. I'm surprised the thread remains open. Edited December 3, 2016 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansell Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Based on what he has said, especially the wife and lawyer being there.....I obviously don't know, but one wonders if there was some collusion between the two and that was why it was instant bye bye. Nothing else seems to make any sense. I wondered if he demanded to see a higher IO at the office or the airport. If he was escorted to the airport I would have asked for an explanation there before passively walking onto a plane. Also this guy is no longer answering anybody's questions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, autoc said: Hey, smart people, keep doing your extension, then they know who to target ! And people who think that it's smarter to go out for 1 day every 3 months can be safe ! We don't even need to tell anyone what is our address, so i don't think that they will visit us anytime... Life is what you want it to be... Some keep thinking that they are right when they actually are so wrong ! funny ! Not quite true but largely true. This is what I do. However you have forgotten TM30 and TM28 requirements as I discovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) 32 minutes ago, autoc said: Hey, smart people, keep doing your extension, then they know who to target ! And people who think that it's smarter to go out for 1 day every 3 months can be safe ! We don't even need to tell anyone what is our address, so i don't think that they will visit us anytime... Life is what you want it to be... Some keep thinking that they are right when they actually are so wrong ! funny ! I have renewed my extension every 2 years for the past 12 years, never had an issue with renewal or Immigration knocking on my door. Do every correctly and legally and there will be no issues but you enjoy wearing that tin foil hat !! BTW I recon the OP is a wind up and will continue to think that unless more inf is forthcoming, Was obviously expecting an issue hence taking the lawyer to do the extension. Edited December 3, 2016 by Don Mega 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) I just noticed: คดีความ . I am involved in a law suit as a victim / witness. This court case is due on Monday Jan 16, 2017 on Ratchadaphisek Road, Bangkok. This is a multiple million (THB) law suit. Edited December 3, 2016 by FredNL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, FredNL said: I just noticed: คดีความ . I am involved in a law suit as a victim / witness. This court case is due on Monday Jan 16, 2017 on Ratchadaphisek Road, Bangkok. This is a multiple million law suit. Still don't understand. Is that the reason given for denial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, FredNL said: I just noticed: คดีความ . I am involved in a law suit as a victim / witness. This court case is due on Monday Jan 16, 2017 on Ratchadaphisek Road, Bangkok. This is a multiple million law suit. If that were the reason they would have told you, or your lawyer. Plus, why would they send you to Holland for a Thai lawsuit, does not make any sense. Did you have a re-entry permit when you left during the under consideration period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Something here just doesn't feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, stevenl said: If that were the reason they would have told you, or your lawyer. Plus, why would they send you to Holland for a Thai lawsuit, does not make any sense. Did you have a re-entry permit when you left during the under consideration period? I had a multiple re-entry permit during the consideration period. It was stamped on page 8. Normally leaving Thailand at least twice per month for business. I still think, and this didn't just come up, that it was a tactic of the defending party having me NOT in court on Jan 16th as the main witness & plaintiff on a multi million law suit. That's why our lawyer and my wife were trying to find out last Friday at immigration. Edited December 3, 2016 by FredNL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepinthailand Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 5555 something isn't right but he's got you all hooked. OP why not just tell everyone the truth instead of the snipers of information you pass on after I may add other people have told you about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yggdrasil Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Thai Immigration wouldn't do this without a solid, good reason - in my view there must be more to this story than we have been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, FredNL said: I just noticed: คดีความ . I am involved in a law suit as a victim / witness. This court case is due on Monday Jan 16, 2017 on Ratchadaphisek Road, Bangkok. This is a multiple million (THB) law suit. Looks like you might have upset someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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