rooster59 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Dhammachayo agrees to surrender provided he is granted bail The embattled abbot of Wat Dhammakaya, Phra Dhammachayo, is ready to turn himself in to knowledge criminal charges against him on the condition that he is granted bail. The above arrangement was agreed upon after about three hours of talk and negotiation between officials of the Department of Special Investigation, representatives of the National Office of Buddhism, the chief monk of Pathum Thani and legal advisors of Wat Dhammakaya at the temple on Friday. The DSI was represented by Mr Phisitchai Sawangwattanakorn and Mr Boonruang Leelavichitseth. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/dhammachayo-agrees-to-surrender-provided-he-is-granted-bail/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 What's next, full co-operation providing there are no charges but if it's absolutely necessary to maintain the farce for public consumption and he has to appear in court a written assurance he will never be convicted ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 He should have gone for a lifetime supply of somtam and a vintage Benz to boot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Once he surrender and face charges, he can, like most other accused, admit culpability, cut a deal with the prosecution, pay a fine, get a slap on wrist and go home scot free like many others before him....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 He has evaded them for a long time, ignored many ultimatums, so he eventually goes in voluntarily. So they give him bail, and tell him to come back on a certain date, because he needs to be charged, and if guilty, incarcerated. It is not rocket science to see he ain't going to go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 No one is above the law, why should he be treated any different to anybody else? Grant him nothing, if guilty jail him. Or maybe he could just go to a temple and repent his sins , then all will be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 He also asked for a pony that 5h1ts diamonds!What a farce!Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Only wants bail while the private cell is decorated and furnished to his standards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Couple of months ago he was gravely ill and couldn't be interviewed, he was receiving the last rites. He looks as tho he has recovered. Is that the NOB Head in uniform beside him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, colinneil said: No one is above the law, why should he be treated any different to anybody else? Grant him nothing, if guilty jail him. Or maybe he could just go to a temple and repent his sins , then all will be forgotten. "No one is above the law" In Thailand, what law? There is no law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren84310 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Funniest request ever..... He should be given extra time in prison for his total disrespect for the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Any guesses on how much bail will be? Think of a number between 1 and 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Who is he to make demands?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarathi Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 The issue is that monks can be disrobed to face charges, without ever being convicted. The attack on him is political, rather than criminal (other recipients of the same embezzled money have not been pursued) The temple unfortunately became associated with Red Shirts after the then PM Thaksin went there to join ceremonies. The temple in fact have always remained staunchly non-partisan regarding politics, for the simple reason that taking any side would lost them 40-60% of their devotees. It's fine not to like the place (I don't), but take a balanced view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Does anyone in the legal fraternity know the definition of justice or what the words mockery and travesty mean? I doubt it or maybe it's the way that the English language is understood that those meanings are lost in the translation. Now I'm only looking for the right excuse that they could come up with because what they have offered so far is just a slap in the face of justice. No wonder there is so much disrespect shown towards the legal profession when they dish out such tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 44 minutes ago, maoro2013 said: Who is he to make demands?? I totally agree with you but the ' who ' aspect breaks down to a senior member of a revered institution with a lot of followers and, it must be suspected, some powerful, influential backers who is managing to have a bunch of supposedly military hard men chasing their tails and very obviously scared to take him on. Disgusting isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 3 hours ago, NongKhaiKid said: What's next, full co-operation providing there are no charges but if it's absolutely necessary to maintain the farce for public consumption and he has to appear in court a written assurance he will never be convicted ? You could be a very good lawyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Just now, Tchooptip said: You could be a very good lawyer Thanks for the compliment, I THINK ! One day I'll give you a glance into my background And I won't have to kill you either ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) 'In the interest of peace and harmony and the possibility of violence I decided that the gracious thing was to surrender to the police'. Never mind that he has prolonged this saga for months and made (yet another) mockery of the cops and DSI. Smug git. Ahhhh' good old 'compromise' face saved all around and much back slapping to come. Or maybe I'm just a cynic. Edited December 3, 2016 by Psimbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1duckyboy Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 If he's gauranteed bail before he even appears, what's the point of him going to court? He could just send in the bail money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, darren84310 said: Funniest request ever..... He should be given extra time in prison for his total disrespect for the law. The laws on Earth don't apply when your from another Galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 30 minutes ago, Sarathi said: The issue is that monks can be disrobed to face charges, without ever being convicted. The attack on him is political, rather than criminal (other recipients of the same embezzled money have not been pursued) The temple unfortunately became associated with Red Shirts after the then PM Thaksin went there to join ceremonies. The temple in fact have always remained staunchly non-partisan regarding politics, for the simple reason that taking any side would lost them 40-60% of their devotees. It's fine not to like the place (I don't), but take a balanced view. This is the first time I have heard an objective analysis of why he has been charged. If true, it is quite an indictment of the powers that be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Looks like financial negotiations on palm greasing and face saving is nearly at an end! then everyone can breath a sigh of relief as its stuck in the court system for eternity or until he dies. Everyones a winner, other than those who lost money in the scheme, but they are fairly low down on the priority list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 The men of the cloth ...... again! The catholic church paid hundreds of millions in swiping pedophile accusations under the sheer endless carpet of the Vatican while the saffron brother here in Thailand insists on a guaranteed bail. Pathetic - to say the least ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: This is the first time I have heard an objective analysis of why he has been charged. If true, it is quite an indictment of the powers that be. I think originally it was political until the powers that be realised that it was probably a larger apple than they wanted to chew on (and perhaps even some of their military brethren were followers). The last thing they need under current circumstances is an arrest which ends up with carnage. Hence the reason that the motor mouths at the top of the NCPO have been distinctly quiet on the whole affair, apart from the poor Justice Minister who has no choice but to issue statements from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myran Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Time for the army to step in. Section 44, go in with armed troops and search the compound, drag him out by his feet if he doesn't come peacefully, put a bullet in any "disciples" that take it upon themselves to block or otherwise intervene with justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Myran said: Time for the army to step in. Section 44, go in with armed troops and search the compound, drag him out by his feet if he doesn't come peacefully, put a bullet in any "disciples" that take it upon themselves to block or otherwise intervene with justice. He probably has many high ranking military disciples himself. The last thing the Thai army wants, needs or has experience with is to have people shoot back at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 4 hours ago, ezzra said: Once he surrender and face charges, he can, like most other accused, admit culpability, cut a deal with the prosecution, pay a fine, get a slap on wrist and go home scot free like many others before him....... May not be that simple. He can hardly become a monk to atone now can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, Myran said: Time for the army to step in. Section 44, go in with armed troops and search the compound, drag him out by his feet if he doesn't come peacefully, put a bullet in any "disciples" that take it upon themselves to block or otherwise intervene with justice. I often wonder whether any of the enthusiasts for "putting bullets" in people for various reasons have ever been near a "two way range" themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Seems strange that the Police can arrange bail ? I would have thought this was a function of the Court only ? but TIT ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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