On Nut Vendors Told To Move Out As Nana Vendors Move Back In

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On Nut Vendors Told To Move Out As Nana Vendors Move Back In

By Sasiwan Mokkhasen, Staff Reporter -

 

BANGKOK — The sidewalk bazaars of the On Nut area were living on borrowed time Friday under a city-imposed deadline to clear out, just as the vendors kicked out of Sukhumvit Road’s Nana area have quietly returned.

 

Notices were put up recently by Watthana district officials declaring that as of Jan. 3, no vendors would be allowed to set up their stalls on the street, from BTS On Nut through Soi Sukhumvit 77, including those in front of the Big C mall.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/bangkok/2016/12/09/nut-vendors-told-move-nana-vendors-move-back/

 

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-12-09

[GarryP]

Where am I going to buy my jackfruit? Been buying from the same vendor for years just down On Nut from Big C. 

 

Seriously, many of those vendors have been there for years. Where will they be able to sell their produce now? However, I must admit the pavement by the side of On Nut was a pain in the proverbial .......... Barely room to pass other pedestrians. 

[fruitman]

12 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Where am I going to buy my jackfruit? Been buying from the same vendor for years just down On Nut from Big C. 

 

Seriously, many of those vendors have been there for years. Where will they be able to sell their produce now? However, I must admit the pavement by the side of On Nut was a pain in the proverbial .......... Barely room to pass other pedestrians. 

 

My tree has many jackfruits, i'll give you one if they are ripe. 

We have several jackfruit sellers but only 1 has really good quality and won't sell any if they are not perfect. If unripe they give stomache-ache and are not sweet enough.

 

I do appreciate the fruitvendors but the rest can go to a foodcourt. And the fruitvendors should sell all kinds of fruit in one shop with a pricetag on them. Packed in plastic and ready to be sold.

[SantiSuk]

I agree with Gary P (have a second home condo 150 metres from those vendors) - PITA for pedestrians, but most of the pedestrians probably buy some stuff at least once a week as they pass through. Street vending/street food is clearly part of the Bangkok scene/culture. If the government wants to confine shopping and food to sanistised global look-alike plastic malls and supermarkets tourist levels will eventually sink to those of such iconic destinations as Houston, Texas (just to pick a random example). How many international tourists are drawn to that? 'Bout time the hiso/elites understood where the country's bread is buttered.

Edited December 9, 2016 by SantiSuk

[khunken]

5 hours ago, GarryP said:

Where am I going to buy my jackfruit? Been buying from the same vendor for years just down On Nut from Big C. 

 

Seriously, many of those vendors have been there for years. Where will they be able to sell their produce now? However, I must admit the pavement by the side of On Nut was a pain in the proverbial .......... Barely room to pass other pedestrians. 

 

I hope they are not including those in the covered 'market' area between Big C and Sukhumvit. I buy all sorts of fruit there as well.

The ones outside Big C on the pavement on the other hand are a pain and should be escorted across the road & into the On Nut market where there are plenty of empty positions. Unfortunately there are far less pedestrians there.

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6 hours ago, GarryP said:

Where am I going to buy my jackfruit? Been buying from the same vendor for years just down On Nut from Big C. 

 

Seriously, many of those vendors have been there for years. Where will they be able to sell their produce now? However, I must admit the pavement by the side of On Nut was a pain in the proverbial .......... Barely room to pass other pedestrians. 

There good vendors sad news. dumb thai council destroyed thailand.

[Jonmarleesco]

Wonderful. But we know what will happen. And even if they don't move back in, the bloody motorcycles will take up the slack. And they're more of a nuisance.

[Bangkok Barry]

 

 

I understand the concerns that Thailand is in danger of losing its 'character'. But in so many places, including at On Nut, these vendors make it almost impossible and certainly a hassle to walk. Get someone stop to buy and you likely have to come to a halt or squeeze past while often loaded with your own shopping. That makes what should be a simple task of getting from A to B an unpleasant experience, and that clearly isn't right. These vendors are also usually (always?) squatters who have no legal right to be there blocking the path. If they want to run a business then let them pay rent and taxes () like every other legal business. They managed to corral street vendors into designated areas in Singapore and it didn't kill off tourism or the country. Some people actually like a clean and orderly environment.

[mcfish]

I agree with Gary P (have a second home condo 150 metres from those vendors) - PITA for pedestrians, but most of the pedestrians probably buy some stuff at least once a week as they pass through. Street vending/street food is clearly part of the Bangkok scene/culture. If the government wants to confine shopping and food to sanistised global look-alike plastic malls and supermarkets tourist levels will eventually sink to those of such iconic destinations as Houston, Texas (just to pick a random example). How many international tourists are drawn to that? 'Bout time the hiso/elites understood where the country's bread is buttered.

There is no where else in Asia that is jammed with side walk vendors so how will it effect Bangkok tourist numbers? It's not as if they had somewhere else to get that atmosphere and I'm pretty sure tourists don't fly halfway round the world to buy wooden frogs

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[mcfish]

There good vendors sad news. dumb thai council destroyed thailand.

Maybe the elderly and the disabled might dare to venture out now? Did you not think about them.

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[smutcakes]

Vendors are part of the city, sure there were areas between Sukhumvit Soi 4 & 23 which needed to be controlled, but there are many other areas still thriving with street vendors. They provide a very valuable service to countless Thais everyday. 

 

[mcfish]

This was always gonna happen if not now then in 10 years
Are farang gullible enough to think that Bangkok would be frozen in time just as it is? Maybe bring the elephants back for that special farang pleasing touch.
It's a developing country, it's doing what it's supposed to be doing.. Developing!
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Nana plaza and soi cowboy will eventually shut down as well. The beer bars will linger on eventually being replaced by up market pubs, resteraunts, upmarket shops along sukhumvit.

I can strongly suggest that those devastated that they leave for Cambodia pronto for that special 3rd world touch because that to won't last forever

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[impulse]

16 minutes ago, mcfish said:

This was always gonna happen if not now then in 10 years
Are farang gullible enough to think that Bangkok would be frozen in time just as it is? 

 

I was kind of hoping that the developers and city planners would see the $$$ value in that atmosphere and would incorporate some of it in the new and improved Bangkok.  Those vendors wouldn't have to block the sidewalk if someone would use a little creativity and make space for them.

 

For example, there are acres and acres of wasted space on the 2nd level between the BTS and EmQuarter.  Properly organized and controlled, that space could keep the atmosphere alive, draw more shoppers, bring in rent revenue and provide lots of jobs for people.  That white elephant at Makkasan has acres and acres, indoors and outdoors.  Instead of a monument to poor planning, how about moving some fruit vendors in?  There's dozens of vacant lots just on Sukhumvit that won't be developed for years.  Sidewalk vendors are a perfect interim land use.

Edited December 10, 2016 by impulse

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5 hours ago, mcfish said:

Maybe the elderly and the disabled might dare to venture out now? Did you not think about them.

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The minority and I doubt the area the vendor uses is enough to block the walkway. The elderly can visit TESCO or BIG C. There's aircon.

[mcfish]

The minority and I doubt the area the vendor uses is enough to block the walkway. The elderly can visit TESCO or BIG C. There's aircon.

To late buddy it's not up for debate, it's over! ...looks like your the one going to big C and the elderly and the disabled have their streets back and can do whatever they damn well please[emoji1]

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[Searat7]

Street vendors are creeping back to Silom Rd too . I never see any police patrolling sidewalks there.?

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3 hours ago, mcfish said:

To late buddy it's not up for debate, it's over! ...looks like your the one going to big C and the elderly and the disabled have their streets back and can do whatever they damn well please

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I like BIG C but not TESCO. They will be back. The elderly will dehydrate from the heat.

[gdgbb]

On 09/12/2016 at 6:00 PM, SantiSuk said:

I agree with Gary P (have a second home condo 150 metres from those vendors) - PITA for pedestrians, but most of the pedestrians probably buy some stuff at least once a week as they pass through. Street vending/street food is clearly part of the Bangkok scene/culture. If the government wants to confine shopping and food to sanistised global look-alike plastic malls and supermarkets tourist levels will eventually sink to those of such iconic destinations as Houston, Texas (just to pick a random example). How many international tourists are drawn to that? 'Bout time the hiso/elites understood where the country's bread is buttered.

 

'Bout time you understood how many international tourists visited the On Nut area.

[gdgbb]

12 hours ago, impulse said:

 

 

For example, there are acres and acres of wasted space on the 2nd level between the BTS and EmQuarter.  Properly organized and controlled, that space could keep the atmosphere alive, draw more shoppers, bring in rent revenue and provide lots of jobs for people.  That white elephant at Makkasan has acres and acres, indoors and outdoors.  Instead of a monument to poor planning, how about moving some fruit vendors in?  There's dozens of vacant lots just on Sukhumvit that won't be developed for years.  Sidewalk vendors are a perfect interim land use.

 

The space outside EmQuartier is privately owned and tries to cater to an upmarket clientelle that doesn't need the street vendor atmosphere.  Why would the owners want to allow ex-street vendors to mess their place up? 

 

All the other dozens (dozens, really?) of empty Sukhumvit lots are also privately owned and I doubt that allowing street vendors to occupy their land would be the owners idea of perfection.   

[impulse]

16 hours ago, gdgbb said:

 

The space outside EmQuartier is privately owned and tries to cater to an upmarket clientelle that doesn't need the street vendor atmosphere.  Why would the owners want to allow ex-street vendors to mess their place up? 

 

All the other dozens (dozens, really?) of empty Sukhumvit lots are also privately owned and I doubt that allowing street vendors to occupy their land would be the owners idea of perfection.   

 

 

Meanwhile, at another upscale shopping center:

 

http://www.kenkoh.asia/explore-asia/explore-thailand/in-the-box-market-central-world-bangkok-thailand/

 

Yes, dozens of empty lots along Sukhumvit (I can count almost a dozen from my office window), many of them grown over into rat and mosquito farms.  Seems allowing vendors the temporary use of that idle space would be a higher and better use than rat or mosquito breeding, and many cities in the world wouldn't let the property owners get away with neglecting their property.  Land may be privately owned, but it's always been considered a public commodity, subject to zoning laws, condemnation for public benefit (highways, etc), and land taxes. 

[gdgbb]

21 hours ago, impulse said:

 

 

Meanwhile, at another upscale shopping center:

 

http://www.kenkoh.asia/explore-asia/explore-thailand/in-the-box-market-central-world-bangkok-thailand/

 

Yes, dozens of empty lots along Sukhumvit (I can count almost a dozen from my office window), many of them grown over into rat and mosquito farms.  Seems allowing vendors the temporary use of that idle space would be a higher and better use than rat or mosquito breeding, and many cities in the world wouldn't let the property owners get away with neglecting their property.  Land may be privately owned, but it's always been considered a public commodity, subject to zoning laws, condemnation for public benefit (highways, etc), and land taxes. 

 

What?   Private property or land is never considered to be public property and is protected by law from being subject to invasion by street vendors. 

 

What have zoning laws and land taxes got to do with vendors not operating from privately owned land?  And land condemnation?  Huh?  If you mean expropriation, there is no way any local authority would consider forcibly taking over private property for other private citizens to occupy for their own businesses.  Ridiculous.