webfact Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Mori poll: Thailand ranks 7th in world "ignorant index" but US is number 5! Picture: Sanook BANGKOK: -- A recently completed poll from the respected MORI organization in London has ranked Thais in seventh place regarding ignorance of their own country. But they still beat out the US that was in 5th. However the UK was shown to have some of the most well informed people. It was part of what the well known pollsters called their "Ignorant Index 2016". The poll asked 16-24 year olds a variety of questions to test their knowledge of their own country. This age group represents the most connected sample of people with their computers and smart phones, said the company. They suggested this group may have a lot of knowledge - but in many countries it proved otherwise, reports Sanook. Respondents were asked questions about population, public services, house buying and the number of Muslims among other things. Leading the way in ignorance were India in number one spot. Here are the others in the top ten: 2. China 3. Taiwan 4. South Africa 5. USA 6. Brazil 7. Thailand 8. Singapore 9. Turkey 10. Indonesia And here are the countries that displayed the deepest knowledge about their homelands: 1. The Netherlands 2. UK 3. South Korea 4. Czech Republic 5. Malaysia 6. Australia 7. Germany 8. Italy 9. Norway 10. Sweden Bobby Duffy of MORI said that the poll revealed many misconceptions especially about the presence of minorities such as Muslims in certain countries. Also the poll revealed that people seem to be much happier than is generally perceived. The sample size was 27,000 people across 40 countries, reported sanook.com. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-12-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Finally.............a poll that you can believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Not sure if translation was the problem, but this is totally wrong. From the MORI site: https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3664/perils-of-perception-2015.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 And then this years result: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The US went from 24th to 5th in a year? Really? LOL Houston, we have a problem. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, craigt3365 said: And then this years result: Finally!.......... a result you can believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, craigt3365 said: The US went from 24th to 5th in a year? Really? LOL Houston, we have a problem. LOL Really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 38 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: The US went from 24th to 5th in a year? Really? LOL Houston, we have a problem. LOL Good catch. But.... Apollo has landed. In 2014 the US was the second most ignorant country of those studied, wow. They are interviewing young liberals! The poll asked 16-24 year olds a variety of questions to test their knowledge of their own country 2014 poll in full including the questions. https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3466/Perceptions-are-not-reality-10-things-the-world-gets-wrong.aspx 2015 poll in full including the questions. https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3664/Perils-of-Perception-2015.aspx Edited December 29, 2016 by rabas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I think some people are confused about the literal meaning of ignorance, many assume it means to be rude - ill mannered etc here is a sample of the literal meaning- lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Some of these questions are not easy. Not sure I'd do so good either. Ask a surfer in California how many people are fat and he'd probably reply "not many". Californians tend to be fit and in shape people. Go to the midwest, and the answer would be totally different. strange poll, strange results, strange (and potentially misleading) title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I am shocked! I must be ignorant as I have always believed the people of the USA to be remarkably erudite. Most of those who I meet are always telling me they are anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Some of these questions are not easy. Not sure I'd do so good either. Ask a surfer in California how many people are fat and he'd probably reply "not many". Californians tend to be fit and in shape people. Go to the midwest, and the answer would be totally different. strange poll, strange results, strange (and potentially misleading) title. I don't think the results are strange. As an American i think you maybe lack awareness of how other nations perceive Americans, for non Americans, i don't think many would be surprised with the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, smutcakes said: I don't think the results are strange. As an American i think you maybe lack awareness of how other nations perceive Americans, for non Americans, i don't think many would be surprised with the result. I'm quite aware. Just saying this is a strange poll when year to year there are such variances. Just doesn't make sense. Something's dodgy. The US ranked at the bottom last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook23 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 in thailand it was like this: 1. we were never colonised 2. we never collaborated with the japs 3. we won from france (anu sawari!!!) 4. we invented the tuktuk! ;-) joke aside, i always said the thai are the americans of SEA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maewang99 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) remember this is as to the "general population", as Bill Gates put it recently. it's the only way to explain or think about a whole lot of stuff. Edited December 29, 2016 by maewang99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 39 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: I'm quite aware. Just saying this is a strange poll when year to year there are such variances. Just doesn't make sense. Something's dodgy. The US ranked at the bottom last year. Unless some "thing" or things has/have occurred/appeared in the meantime, about which large numbers of American people are ignorant or misinformed? Have some States disappeared (all those rallies/votes never happened, covered up by a NSA/media conspiracy)? Did politicians start telling the truth? Edited December 29, 2016 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 21 minutes ago, Enoon said: Unless some "thing" or things has/have occurred/appeared in the meantime, about which large numbers of American people are ignorant or misinformed? Have some States disappeared (all those rallies/votes never happened, covered up by a up by NSA/media conspiracy)? Did politicians start telling the truth? Did politicians start telling the truth? Heck no! We've got Trump now! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 They don't seem ignorant to me.They kick penniless bums out the Country ,not welcome themSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Brer Fox said: I am shocked! I must be ignorant as I have always believed the people of the USA to be remarkably erudite. Most of those who I meet are always telling me they are anyway. Indeed. I removed the Google short cut from my computer, because I no longer need it since an American moved in next door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, craigt3365 said: The US went from 24th to 5th in a year? Really? LOL Houston, we have a problem. LOL Well here's a bit of a twist. Some years ago I attended a large 7 day seminar in China (conducted in English). A few of the attendees from the USA were 3 days late arriving. Some never arrived. Why? They thought all US citizens were exempt from needing a passport to enter any country in the world. They bought tickets on-line, they arrived at check-in in the US and got a rude shock when boarding was refused. Some had passports and were able to quickly get a visa for entry to China. Some didn't even have a passport so the seminar finished before they could all documentation completed. Edited December 29, 2016 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 It was totally expected that the Dutch would rank nr 1, we are of course the master race just joking I wonder what kind of test this was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Bob Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Mook23 said: in thailand it was like this: 1. we were never colonised 2. we never collaborated with the japs 3. we won from france (anu sawari!!!) 4. we invented the tuktuk! ;-) joke aside, i always said the thai are the americans of SEA! Are these statements really not true then? I know they collaborated with the japs but by whom where they colonised? Won from France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 As an American I know how blissfully ignorant many Americns are with knowledge of their own country and it's own real history and palce in the world. I have to get used to that abd the silly questions I am asked by Americans when they hear I live in Thailand. Quwstions like , "How much snow did you have in Thailand at Christmas this year?" and " Do they all speak Chinese there in Thailand?" And questions like that gome from University graduates. As an educated American , that kind of ignotance is dpressing to me. That is one of the reasons I can not concieve of going back to live in the U.S. permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoongJohn Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 30 minutes ago, IMA_FARANG said: As an American I know how blissfully ignorant many Americns are with knowledge of their own country and it's own real history and palce in the world. I have to get used to that abd the silly questions I am asked by Americans when they hear I live in Thailand. Quwstions like , "How much snow did you have in Thailand at Christmas this year?" and " Do they all speak Chinese there in Thailand?" And questions like that gome from University graduates. As an educated American , that kind of ignotance is dpressing to me. That is one of the reasons I can not concieve of going back to live in the U.S. permanently. I encountered the same sort of ignorance from a New Zealander who demanded to know how Thais traditionally celebrate Christmas. She simply refused to believe that Buddhists don't observe Christian festivals (except as a commercial event) . Edited December 29, 2016 by LoongJohn repetition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr3825 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Ask a 16 to 24 person anything is the dumbest sample . In the USA they don't know their name with the schools we have, and that is if they wasted money on university Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, ballpoint said: Indeed. I removed the Google short cut from my computer, because I no longer need it since an American moved in next door. You needed a short cut for Google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Which America? The one next to Spain? How they have companies like google apple and all those goodie movies? Someone there not too dummie!!!!I remember 1812 like it was tomorrow. How did those dummies win that war?If ignoraniant why currency so good and hospitals goodie and schools goodie at the topI want to study about 1864 in China and America but I just gottie new iPhone 11Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Season of good will...Done...Now back to the bigotry. I hate you all! Aaarrrggghhhh. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 hours ago, rabas said: Good catch. But.... Apollo has landed. In 2014 the US was the second most ignorant country of those studied, wow. So Italy went from 1st place in 2014 to number 33 in 2016? I guess they need a bigger sample size or ask the same questions every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 hours ago, craigt3365 said: The US went from 24th to 5th in a year? Really? LOL They may have posed the questions to US Presidential candidates in the latest poll. In statistics it's called being skewed by the Sarah Palin vacuum effect first identified by pollsters in 2008, although it may have to be renamed after the 2016 elections. In the UK they cleverly avoided polling any of the royals thus giving the results a boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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