danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 An American friend of mine who lives in Bangkok got his retirement visa through a law firm, paid 30K baht, has not had to report in or anything, it expires at the end of January. Can he renew on his own in Jomtien? The original visa was done in Chonburi, I assume it is the same office... What would he need to do? Can he use his Bangkok address? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 If he is living in Bangkok in will that to apply for his extension of stay (it is not a visa) there at Chaeng Wattana immigration. He will need to meet the financial proof requirements to apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munotlaw Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 The mentioned price of 30k suggests that the agent provided also the financial requirements. In that case he needs the agent again, price will be lower and Immigration Pattaya will issue. Munotlaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: if he is living in Bangkok in will that to apply for his extension of stay (it is not a visa) there at Chaeng Wattana immigration. He will need to meet the financial proof requirements to apply. Thanks Ubonjoe, Since he is renewing an existing one year retirement visa that was done originally in Chonburi, if he uses an address in Pattaya this would take care of the requirement to apply at Chaeng Wattana, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Munotlaw said: The mentioned price of 30k suggests that the agent provided also the financial requirements. In that case he needs the agent again, price will be lower and Immigration Pattaya will issue. Munotlaw Thanks Munotlaw, Americans don't need this, I recently did mine with only the notarized affidavit of income provided by my embassy. Hence his interest in doing it himself now... I will recommend he discuss with the lawyer to see what he wants to charge before taking the next step I guess... but if he lied to him a year ago, how can you trust his advice??? Edited December 30, 2016 by danadaddee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IMA_FARANG Posted December 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2016 A reirement visa extension or an annual renewal can be done without an agent by a person of average inteligence, even an American. I am not being sarcastic, as i am an American living in Bangkok, and betwen 2010 and 2013 I did 3 of them. Why pay an agent 30K Baht for something you can handle yourself at the cost of a 200 Baht taxi fee to immigrtion? Just neet the financial requireents, take half a day in immigration and do it once a year. The fact that your friend gas not yet heard anything from the Agency is like a red waening flag to me. i hope i am wrong about that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, IMA_FARANG said: Why pay an agent 30K Baht for something you can handle yourself at the cost of a 200 Baht taxi fee to immigrtion? Just neet the financial requireents, take half a day in immigration and do it once a year. Maybe the OP's American friend doesn't have the required financial fortitude. 15 minutes ago, danadaddee said: Americans don't need this, I recently did mine with only the notarized affidavit of income provided by my embassy. Hence his interest in doing it himself now... Maybe the OP's American friend is similarly unfazed by making potentially perjurious statements to a government official. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, IMA_FARANG said: A reirement visa extension or an annual renewal can be done without an agent by a person of average inteligence, even an American. I am not being sarcastic, as i am an American living in Bangkok, and betwen 2010 and 2013 I did 3 of them. Why pay an agent 30K Baht for something you can handle yourself at the cost of a 200 Baht taxi fee to immigrtion? Just neet the financial requireents, take half a day in immigration and do it once a year. The fact that your friend gas not yet heard anything from the Agency is like a red waening flag to me. i hope i am wrong about that. Thanks Ima Farang... I agree, he made a mistake in using the agency. I found it quite simple to do the OA visa in Vientiane, then the change to retirement here in Jomtien, all by myself. Yes, good point, he should have heard from the agency by now, one month before his current visa or extension or whatever you want to call it needs to be renewed. He was told he had to prove the financial stuff, which is true for some, but not for Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 19 minutes ago, danadaddee said: Thanks Ubonjoe, Since he is renewing an existing one year retirement visa that was done originally in Chonburi, if he uses an address in Pattaya this would take care of the requirement to apply at Chaeng Wattana, yes? Why does he want to go to Pattaya to apply for the extension (not a visa). He would probably find it easier to do it in Bangkok than Pattaya. He would just need to prove an address in Bangkok. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, NanLaew said: Maybe the OP's American friend doesn't have the required financial fortitude. Maybe the OP's American friend is similarly unfazed by making potentially perjurious statements to a government official. thanks for your input, NanLaew. not really. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lopburi3 Posted December 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2016 16 minutes ago, danadaddee said: Thanks Munotlaw, Americans don't need this, I recently did mine with only the notarized affidavit of income provided by my embassy. Hence his interest in doing it himself now... I will recommend he discuss with the lawyer to see what he wants to charge before taking the next step I guess... but if he lied to him a year ago, how can you trust his advice??? Americans must meet the same requirements as anyone else. Any nationality can use income letter rather than bank deposit. Some Embassies require paperwork to prove and others the signature of applicant - but in any case your signature is under oath and in the case of USA a U.S. Federal Offence if not true and make the signer subject to US laws and to US imprisonment. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, ubonjoe said: Why does he want to go to Pattaya to apply for the extension (not a visa). He would probably find it easier to do it in Bangkok than Pattaya. He would just need to prove an address in Bangkok. yes I agree, he was thinking of combining a little getaway to the beach and also the existing visa is from here... but I think he'd be best served to handle it in bkk. he will need a change of address form, a health certificate, and an affidavit of income, correct? I am passing on this advice to him, thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, lopburi3 said: Americans must meet the same requirements as anyone else. Any nationality can use income letter rather than bank deposit. Some Embassies require paperwork to prove and others the signature of applicant - but in any case your signature is under oath and in the case of USA a U.S. Federal Offence if not true and make the signer subject to US laws and to US imprisonment. good to know, I was under the impression other folks had to produce bank statements... that there was no option to do otherwise. thanks lobburi3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted December 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, danadaddee said: he will need a change of address form, a health certificate, and an affidavit of income, correct? Just a change of address form with proof of residence and the income affidavit. No health certificate is required. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, ubonjoe said: Just a change of address form and proof of residence and the income affidavit. No health certificate is required. thanks again, nice to be able to get good advice from folks here, appreciate it very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachproperty Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) ".....has not had to report in or anything, " You mean he has not done his 90 day report? Edited December 30, 2016 by beachproperty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Yeah this seems on several points to be a strange OP,s posting.... First like you mention; no 90 day reports..... I wonder what will happen when he shows up,,, will he be thrown out of Thailand.... And secondly OP went to Laos and get a Non Immigrant O-A???? Is that really true???? is it possible to get an O-A in a country where you are NOT living?? Strange Glegolo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, glegolo said: Yeah this seems on several points to be a strange OP,s posting.... First like you mention; no 90 day reports..... I wonder what will happen when he shows up,,, will he be thrown out of Thailand.... Just 2000 baht fine. Certainly no deportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Just 2000 baht fine. Certainly no deportation. Yes, but together with a questionable extension of stay, made out by a "law-firm" in Thailand, smell big problem here... if it is true of course Glegolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, glegolo said: Yes, but together with a questionable extension of stay, made out by a "law-firm" in Thailand, smell big problem here... if it is true of course Not likely since it is would have real stamps from an immigration office. It is done all the time. Many people have gotten their retirement extensions that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted December 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2016 Hmmm, what sprang to my mind when I saw the figure of 30k baht was that perhaps this was one of those "law firms" which advertises that they will get you an extension based on retirement for that sort of money, and the applicant doesn't have to have any money in the bank whatsoever, or visit an immigration office, because "it's all taken care of by the law firm" – – if you see what I mean? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I seem to remember someone getting into trouble for having stamps in his passport which an agency had procured, by making their own stamps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glegolo Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Yes I see your point, and that was also exactly my point when posting above here. It is a scam of course, and it is NOT OK at all... But hopefully it wil NOT cast a shadow on the rest of us... But is does, it does, and it does.... We have to live in lala-land if we dont undrstand that..... cheeters always leaves a trail to others to suffer in the end.... Glegolo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmud63 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, xylophone said: Hmmm, what sprang to my mind when I saw the figure of 30k baht was that perhaps this was one of those "law firms" which advertises that they will get you an extension based on retirement for that sort of money, and the applicant doesn't have to have any money in the bank whatsoever, or visit an immigration office, because "it's all taken care of by the law firm" – – if you see what I mean? thats exactly what i have done for the last 3 years . but it only costs me 23kthb and a trip to bkk immigration . to easy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munotlaw Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 thats exactly what i have done for the last 3 years . but it only costs me 23kthb and a trip to bkk immigration . to easy I agree fully, Immigration people likes you even more than ordinary applicants, because they can get a little tea money. Munotlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Munotlaw said: thats exactly what i have done for the last 3 years . but it only costs me 23kthb and a trip to bkk immigration . to easy I agree fully, Immigration people likes you even more than ordinary applicants, because they can get a little tea money. Munotlaw That is not the impression I get from the officers themselves - and most spoke to wife in negatives about such people/expediters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 hours ago, beachproperty said: ".....has not had to report in or anything, " You mean he has not done his 90 day report? my assumption is the agency he paid has been handling this, but I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, danadaddee said: my assumption is the agency he paid has been handling this, but I don't know. How long ago did he get the original? Has he been giving the agent his passport every 90 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danadaddee Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 hours ago, glegolo said: Yeah this seems on several points to be a strange OP,s posting.... First like you mention; no 90 day reports..... I wonder what will happen when he shows up,,, will he be thrown out of Thailand.... And secondly OP went to Laos and get a Non Immigrant O-A???? Is that really true???? is it possible to get an O-A in a country where you are NOT living?? Strange Glegolo he will either be fined or the agency has been handling the check ins, I guess... I did Vientiane after coming to thailand, applied for and got my OA visa there. not sure what my friend did. so yes, you can apply for an OA at any Thai embassy apparently... many people were doing the same thing there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, danadaddee said: I did Vientiane after coming to thailand, applied for and got my OA visa there. Vientiane issued you a single entry non-o visa not a OA visa. They only issue OA visas to Laotians and legal residents of Laos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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