halloween Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 7 hours ago, baboon said: An absconder. Excellent word and quite accurate. Now you might want to look at the definition of fugitive, which has 2 meanings, one exactly equivalent, which you choose to ignore in preference to someone being pursued. " a person who has escaped from captivity OR is in hiding" https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fugitive American dictionaries give the same choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 7 hours ago, JAG said: Ah but "fugitive" is much more dramatic. It conjures up images of a desperado, probably in tattered garb, living from hand to mouth, ceaselessly on the run, every mans hand against him, with the implacable and incorruptible forces of good and righteousness nobly striving to bring him to justice at all costs, It fits the narrative you see - didn't one fevered soul some months ago describe him as "the most evil man to come out of Asia" (one in the eye for Pol Pot and Genghis Khan among others, but never mind)? The reality of course is an exiled politician living in comfort in a foreign country, free to travel the world as the fancy takes him, safe in the knowledge that any country with the remotest pretensions to democratic governance regard his conviction with derision; but choose instead to regard him as an elected politician toppled by one of a series of military coups, and aware that if he were to return to Thailand and its junta he would likely be dead within days. No "fugitive " it has to be. Oh, please, look up the definition and stop being so melodramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, halloween said: Oh, please, look up the definition and stop being so melodramatic. It's called irony. If you don't like it ignore it. Edited January 5, 2017 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 hours ago, JAG said: Ah but "fugitive" is much more dramatic. It conjures up images of a desperado, probably in tattered garb, living from hand to mouth, ceaselessly on the run, every mans hand against him, with the implacable and incorruptible forces of good and righteousness nobly striving to bring him to justice at all costs, It fits the narrative you see - didn't one fevered soul some months ago describe him as "the most evil man to come out of Asia" (one in the eye for Pol Pot and Genghis Khan among others, but never mind)? The reality of course is an exiled politician living in comfort in a foreign country, free to travel the world as the fancy takes him, safe in the knowledge that any country with the remotest pretensions to democratic governance regard his conviction with derision; but choose instead to regard him as an elected politician toppled by one of a series of military coups, and aware that if he were to return to Thailand and its junta he would likely be dead within days. No "fugitive " it has to be. That's rather an old fashioned version of fugitive. Nowadays I think more of fugitives as criminals like Wattana living a life of luxury in Cambodia after a life of massive corruption in Thailand. Other examples might be drug dealers, big time thieves hiding in Pattaya from their crimes in Europe and the USA. And of course Thaksin, especially on the run from the state owned Krung Thai bank case and its 9.9 billion baht loans to the NPL- afflicted Krisada Mahanakon companies ( KMC). His underlings at the bank are serving sentences of 18 years each. I don't think Thaksin wants to join them. He may be living in luxury but the sands of Dubai can only be so comfortable. His heart will never be happy as long as he cannot come back to his homeland and family. But every mistake was made by himself. He made his own bed but now refuses to lie in it. So roam he must, endlessly and aimlessly shuttling between foreign countries that accept his money. A homeless man unable to acknowledge his crimes and greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 8 hours ago, baboon said: Excellent. You may also wish to consider using constantly the phrase above. Why? It does your 'cause' for want of a better word no good at all. Let's be honest, whenever the term 'bigot' is used for example, or 'left wing liberal media'. It immediately turns the reader off - Oh God, here is another one who simply parrots the lines he is fed. Use your own thoughts, your own perspective, your own words. It will draw more attention and give more credibility to what you have to say. Pompous lecture over. Enjoy the rest of your evening! I'll just stay with 'convicted criminal in self imposed exile', thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/4/2017 at 11:34 AM, wakeupplease said: As when the PTP-led government used the DSI to try to jail former-PM Abhisit & Suthep ? I had forgotten that one. A reminder of thaksin's control over the police. In fact I wonder is that crooked influence is fully gone. Thaksin can never be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 6 hours ago, halloween said: Excellent word and quite accurate. Now you might want to look at the definition of fugitive, which has 2 meanings, one exactly equivalent, which you choose to ignore in preference to someone being pursued. " a person who has escaped from captivity OR is in hiding" https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fugitive American dictionaries give the same choice. They don't apply either. He was allowed to leave and everyone knows where he lives. You yourself feel the need to remind us as often as possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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