Trump's call for probe of voter fraud sparks backlash

[Redline]

3 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

It never ends. Any criticism of Trump or his actions is met with, "But look at Hillary."

They need to be spoon fed new lines.  Now everyone is too busy to do that.  The campaign is over.  I thought Hillary was supposed to be in jail?

[mtls2005]

Both Steve Bannon and Tiffany Trump are registered to vote in at least two states.

 

BTW, this is not unusual as people move around, and none vote in both locations.

 

Nor is it unusual for dead people to remain registered. It often takes a family a long time to sort through all details after a elderly parent passes, for instance. I didn't even think about this when my father passed, but eventually took care of it when the lawyer reminded me about it.

[jcsmith]

Trump's claims were based on a report where the own author had this to say,  “As I've noted before, voting integrity better in this election than ever before. Zero evidence of fraud.” 

 

Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-voter-fraud-groveling-234187

[DM07]

He wanted to create jobs- now he is King and Courtjester in one person!

[ilostmypassword]

5 minutes ago, DM07 said:

He wanted to create jobs- now he is King and Courtjester in one person!

Well, that means he is doing 2 jobs. He should seriously consider creating a job for another American by resigning from his job as king. 

[ilostmypassword]

1 hour ago, zydeco said:

Fake, huh? " According to the Office of the California Secretary of State, "in most cases, California voters are not required to show identification at their polling place." A voter may be asked to provide identification at the polls if it is his or her first time voting (this requirement applies if the individual registered by mail without providing a driver's license number, state identification number, or the last four digits of a Social Security number). Acceptable forms of identification include driver's licenses, utility bills, or any document sent by a government agency. For a complete list of acceptable forms of identification" https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_in_California

 

The only Californians who get automatically registered to vote on getting a driver's license are citizens. So if an unauthorized alien were to show up at the polls, his or her name wouldn't be on the list of authorized voters.

http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

[Carib]

18 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Well, that means he is doing 2 jobs. He should seriously consider creating a job for another American by resigning from his job as king. 

Yes, but it is good to be the king..

 

[pcliff069]

2 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

Good idea for an investigation; just to get ahead of the 2020 election curve where the Democrats will again cheat at the polls.

not real bright the Democrats - cheated in California where Clinton won over 60% of the vote. Next time they should try Ohio, Pennsylvania or even Florida where they would only have to cheat by a couple of thousand.

[zydeco]

45 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

 

The only Californians who get automatically registered to vote on getting a driver's license are citizens. So if an unauthorized alien were to show up at the polls, his or her name wouldn't be on the list of authorized voters.

http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

The only "authorized list of voters" is those that register to vote, who are automatically enrolled with their driver's license.  Do you understand this? There is no database of citizens eligible to vote outside of voter registration lists.

[stevenl]

37 minutes ago, pcliff069 said:

not real bright the Democrats - cheated in California where Clinton won over 60% of the vote. Next time they should try Ohio, Pennsylvania or even Florida where they would only have to cheat by a couple of thousand.

So how did they cheat? Or are you also referring to the already many, many times debunked myth about millions of illegals voting for Clinton?

[Thakkar]

4 hours ago, zydeco said:

Simple remedy. Voter ID. If you fear Voter ID, then you want to make it possible for illegals to slip through the system and vote. In California, voter registration takes place when a person gets a driver's license. And California is now giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Connect the dots.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

 

The real problem is NOT how easy it is for illegals to vote (it isn't easy at all, hence so very, very few instances of voter fraud). The real problem is how hard it has been made for legal citizens to vote, but very selectively, only in certain districts.

 

there is a wholesale disenfranchisement effort going on and if you are truly concerned about .american democracy, that is what you should be worried about,

[Thakkar]

1 hour ago, pcliff069 said:

not real bright the Democrats - cheated in California where Clinton won over 60% of the vote. Next time they should try Ohio, Pennsylvania or even Florida where they would only have to cheat by a couple of thousand.

It's easy to swing three million votes nationwide. But to swing a few thousand votes in Michigan—UNPISSIBLE, I tell you, it's UNPOSSIBLE!!

[simple1]

1 hour ago, zydeco said:

The only "authorized list of voters" is those that register to vote, who are automatically enrolled with their driver's license.  Do you understand this? There is no database of citizens eligible to vote outside of voter registration lists.

Did you actually read the Snopes report? to quote the last sentence (more detail available)...

 

 The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver's license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.

[pcliff069]

So how did they cheat? Or are you also referring to the already many, many times debunked myth about millions of illegals voting for Clinton?

All I am saying is if they did cheat why would you do it in California where you were always projected to win with over 60%. of the vote.

[Thakkar]

6 minutes ago, pcliff069 said:

All I am saying is if they did cheat why would you do it in California where you were always projected to win with over 60%. of the vote.

 

Because Clinton is a idiot political novice, who despite having been two term First Lady, US Senator and US Sec of State, does not understand how the American electoral system works. She tried to cheat and failed because she cheated in States where she did not need to. She lost because she's a idiot who wasn't smart enough to seek help from the Russians.

[pitrevie]

2 hours ago, pcliff069 said:

not real bright the Democrats - cheated in California where Clinton won over 60% of the vote. Next time they should try Ohio, Pennsylvania or even Florida where they would only have to cheat by a couple of thousand.

After Trump won,  and Democrats attempted to challenge his victory in the key states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, Trump reversed his position. In a filing in the Michigan case, his campaign argued that “all available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake.” So perhaps those cases need to be revisited since the President is now convinced there was voter fraud.

[Thakkar]

2 minutes ago, pitrevie said:

After Trump won,  and Democrats attempted to challenge his victory in the key states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, Trump reversed his position. In a filing in the Michigan case, his campaign argued that “all available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake.” So perhaps those cases need to be revisited since the President is now convinced there was voter fraud.

 

You really don't get it, do you? There is voter fraud ONLY in the states that Clinton won. Try and keep up man...lose your tinfoil hat, or what?

[pcliff069]

 
Because Clinton is a idiot political novice, who despite having been two term First Lady, US Senator and US Sec of State, does not understand how the American electoral system works. She tried to cheat and failed because she cheated in States where she did not need to. She lost because she's a idiot who wasn't smart enough to seek help from the Russians.

Now that has got to be the funniest post I have ever read.

[zydeco]

5 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

 

The only Californians who get automatically registered to vote on getting a driver's license are citizens. So if an unauthorized alien were to show up at the polls, his or her name wouldn't be on the list of authorized voters.

http://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

Why do you keep imagining this?  There is no federal or state database of citizens eligible to register to vote.

[Scott]

Having not long ago gone through getting a driver's license and registering to vote, it is not automatic.   If you are born in the US, you will be asked if you want to register to vote.   If you are not then you will be asked if you are a citizen, if you aren't then you will not even be asked about registering to vote.  

 

A Thai friend got his US driver's License at the same time and there was no mention to him of registering to vote.   He first got a permit, which expires when his Green Card expires, he took his driving test a few days later and passed and has a full license -- no offer to register him to vote.   

 

 

[stevenl]

All I am saying is if they did cheat why would you do it in California where you were always projected to win with over 60%. of the vote.

No. You did not say 'if they did cheat' you said 'they cheated'.

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[Pinot]

8 hours ago, zydeco said:

Simple remedy. Voter ID. If you fear Voter ID, then you want to make it possible for illegals to slip through the system and vote. In California, voter registration takes place when a person gets a driver's license. And California is now giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Connect the dots.

There aren't any dots. Jeesh, imbeciles. 

[HerbalEd]

Make America great again — impeach Trump.

 

[JetsetBkk]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

Three Democratic congressmen demanded proof.

 

Well done, you Dems. If he had proof there wouldn't be the need for a probe.

 

[funandsuninbangkok]

12 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

Another fake news junkie.  I've already posted links debunking this nonsense a few times.  No more. Why don't you cite an authoritative source to back up your contention?

 

The media reports only cases like Jill Stien's investigation of Wisconsin where the count was redone and found to match the ballots. The ballot counts are accurate so media claims no fraud. 

 

No one has had the balls to investigate people ON voter rolls who actually vote to see if they are eligible. Remember 12 million illegals in the US. 

 

  Go to any grocery store before election time and paid Democrat party hacks ask any and everyone entering to register to vote. No proof of citizenship. No ID required. They are paid for each registration.

 

why not check the voter rolls ?

Edited January 26, 2017 by funandsuninbangkok

[connda]

17 hours ago, Emster23 said:

Do we need more evidence to prove Trump is certified delusional nut job? No. But we will get more by the truck load. Or train car load.

Just curious, but if Trump is a certified delusional nut job for looking into voter frauds, then what does that make Jill Stein and all those who financially supported her 'recount' effort?  Think about.  It's a legit question to ponder for anyone capable of looking at both sides of an issue.

 

There are voting irregularities in virtually every major election.  Bad enough to swing the vote?  Don't know.  Maybe.  Perhaps we should ask Bernie Sander about the revelations of the Wikileaks information and how his campaign was effected.

Personally I'd support a review of voting processes.  There is always room for improvement to establish fair and unmanipulated elections.  What is crazy about that?  Consider this a rhetorical question. 

[stevenl]

 
Well done, you Dems. If he had proof there wouldn't be the need for a probe.
 

Some kind of proof an investigation is warranted. So far there is no smoke at all.

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[stevenl]

This will turn out to be another attempt to suppress to Trump unwanted voters, like blacks.

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[jerojero]

Donny you won the election. Let it go! Sheesh, don't be such a f tool.

[Thakkar]

Statement from Bernhard Langer on what amounts to a game of telephone re: voter fraud story with Trump: 

 

 

 

Friend told Langer who told a friend who told Trump who used it to justify his voter fraud probe to House and Senate members? It's like Trump is back in high school, but with the nuclear codes.