webfact Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Merkel says fight against terrorism no excuse for U.S. entry ban By Andrea Shalal and Andreas Rinke REUTERS German Chancellor Angela Merkel addresses the media at the Chancellery in Berlin, Germany, January 18, 2017. REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch BERLIN (Reuters) - German Chancellor Angela Merkel told U.S. President Donald Trump that the global fight against terrorism was no excuse for banning refugees or people from Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, her spokesman said on Sunday. Steffen Seibert said Merkel had expressed her concerns to Trump during a telephone call on Saturday and reminded him that the Geneva Conventions require the international community to take in war refugees on humanitarian grounds. "She is convinced that even the necessary, decisive battle against terrorism does not justify putting people of a specific background or faith under general suspicion," he said. Seibert said the German government regrets the U.S. entry travel ban, would review the consequences for German citizens with dual nationalities, and would "represent their interests, if needed, vis a vis our U.S. partners". The German and Dutch foreign ministers issued a joint statement on Sunday saying they were pressing U.S. authorities to determine what the order meant for their dual nationals. "We are determined to protect the rights of our citizens and will take rapid action within the European Union about the steps that are now needed," Germany's Sigmar Gabriel and his Dutch counterpart Bert Koenders said. Trump ordered on Friday a four-month hold on allowing refugees into the United States and temporarily banned travellers from Syria and six other mainly Muslim countries. Seibert's comments were the first indication of discord over the issue between Merkel and Trump, who had highlighted common interests such as strengthening NATO and combating Islamist militancy in a joint statement after their 45-minute phone call. Thomas Oppermann, who heads the parliamentary faction of the Social Democrats, the junior partner in Merkel's right-centre coalition, called Trump's order "inhumane and foolhardy" and said it would result in significant damage to the U.S. economy. "The order contradicts everything that makes up the United States' good reputation as a country of immigration," he told Die Welt newspaper. "No one should be discriminated against because of their religious beliefs." Omid Nouripour, a Green party lawmaker who is vice-chair of the German-American parliamentary group and a German-Iranian dual national, said the new U.S. rule was a "dirty symbolic gesture that would hurt hundreds of thousands of people". "The German government must stand up for the over 100,000 German citizens who are affected by the order," Nouripour told Reuters. He said Trump had not included Saudi Arabia in the order because of his strong business ties there. Niema Movassat, a Left party lawmaker who also has German and Iranian citizenship, told the Tageszeitung newspaper that the ban would prevent him from visiting the United Nations to work on development issues and from visiting his relatives. Dieter Janecek, economic spokesman for the Greens in parliament, said Germany should consider a travel ban on Trump and his senior adviser Stephen Bannon unless the order was rescinded. Trump on Saturday accepted Merkel's invitation to attend the a meeting of the Group of 20 industrialised nations in Hamburg in July. He also invited Merkel to visit Washington soon. (Reporting by Andreas Rinke, Sabine Siebold and Andrea Shalal; Writing by Andrea Shalal; Editing by Catherine Evans) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-01-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 She's the face a disastrous immigration and what a nasty face it is. Whatever she says, do the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 'Merkel says'. Sorry, I didn't get beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 If I wanted advice on immigration, I think Merkel would be the last person to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 " Niema Movassat, a Left party lawmaker who also has German and Iranian citizenship, " I fully support the right of a member of the public to hold dual nationality if they wish, but I find it a little strange if someone who pledges allegiance to serve their country in parliament should have more than one allegiance..... Am I the only one who feels this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Merkel's spokesperson talks about taking in war refugees in the same breath as normal immigration and then lays on the guilt trip, "America's reputation as an immigrant country". Yeah OK, thanks for your input. You may now return to your underground bunker, have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 spoken by the clown that let them all in, wake up Germany get rid of her quick.still the UK had Tony Blair, war criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackh Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Merkel is responsible for the destruction of Germany and it's culture. Obama is no different with the exception he has been stopped and now it is left to Trump to implement damage control. The US still has a chance, unlike Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 She should be very busy now saving her one political derriere and not advise Trump on immigration's policy, any dummkoff can swing the gates open, it's the taking care of the consequences that count... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Germans do not get to determine who Americans allow into the US. Germany is a bigger problem than Russia. Merkel has destabilized more nations than Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 And in a companion thread in today's news, Merkel's own Finance Minister admits they made "mistakes" with their immigrants policy. Quote BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany made mistakes with an open-door policy that saw more than a million migrants enter Germany over the past two years, Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble acknowledged on Sunday, but he said Berlin was trying to learn from those missteps. "We have tried to improve what got away from us in 2015," Schaeuble told the newspaper Welt am Sonntag. "We politicians are human; we also make mistakes. But one can at least learn from them." Schaeuble is a member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats, who have lost support to the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany(AfD) party over the migration issue, after several attacks carried out by migrants. Quote In September, after a defeat for her Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in a Berlin state election, Merkel said she wished she could turn back the clock on the migrant crisis, although she stopped short of saying her policy was a mistake. Merkel has rejected calls from the CDU's Bavarian sister party to set an upper limit on migration, but is now pressing for more aggressive steps to send back migrants who are refused asylum, as well as action to prevent a similar flood of migrant from Africa. If I were a German, I'd wish I could "turn back the clock" on Merkel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Apparently, Merkel wants to make sure that she is not the only leader to make disastrous mistakes on immigration, so she is pushing Donald Trump to reverse his policy to protect America and join her policy which not only poisons Germany but also other European countries, notably Sweden, whose police have just announced that they are unable to cope with the surge in thefts, rapes and murders, which officially have no identifiable source due to their ubiquitous P.C. doctines. Crimes in Germany are being treated in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 hours ago, jackh said: Merkel is responsible for the destruction of Germany and it's culture. Obama is no different with the exception he has been stopped and now it is left to Trump to implement damage control. The US still has a chance, unlike Germany. What a nonsens..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 hours ago, ezzra said: She should be very busy now saving her one political derriere and not advise Trump on immigration's policy, any dummkoff can swing the gates open, it's the taking care of the consequences that count... Wrong.....every Stupid can close the Gates.....put your Head in the Sand and wait...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Usernames said: Germans do not get to determine who Americans allow into the US. Germany is a bigger problem than Russia. Merkel has destabilized more nations than Putin. Oh , what a competent Comment. Have you study History? Shurly not I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorC Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 "Merkel says fight against terrorism no excuse for U.S. entry ban" Oh yes it is !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Usernames said: Germans do not get to determine who Americans allow into the US. Germany is a bigger problem than Russia. Merkel has destabilized more nations than Putin. But EU President and ruler and future World President candidate Frau Merkel, the former DDR Communist party worker, who wants a world government, naturally with her and Germany in total charge, thinks she should. Everyone should do what she says. Surprised she hasn't issued Trump with his quota for refugees yet. Angela - shhh, be quiet, Donald may ask you to pay up all those NATO send your country missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, ujayujay said: Oh , what a competent Comment. Have you study History? Shurly not I guess. Interesting quetion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living in a cartoon Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, ujayujay said: Oh , what a competent Comment. Have you study History? Shurly not I guess. Agree with your comment, but don't call him Shirley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Merkel is just one voice saying what the rest of the world is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajarngreg Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Merkel you !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LammyTS1 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yeh, as if Trump is going to be taking any immigration advice from you.... You have enough immigration problems without getting involved in other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, LammyTS1 said: Yeh, as if Trump is going to be taking any immigration advice from you.... You have enough immigration problems without getting involved in other countries. Quite right and anyway Trump is doing a great job as the new POTUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LammyTS1 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Quite right and anyway Trump is doing a great job as the new POTUSExactly, how can a failed politician who has destroyed her country comment on a new world leader who is implementing exactly what he proposed and what the American people want. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 9 hours ago, dunroaming said: Merkel is just one voice saying what the rest of the world is saying. That she is largely responsible for what the bad things happening to Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 1/30/2017 at 6:39 AM, webfact said: "She is convinced that even the necessary, decisive battle against terrorism does not justify putting people of a specific background or faith under general suspicion," I'm not convinced it justifies accepting all and sundry into a country, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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