DILLIGAD Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 And yet another tourist turns up dead in suspicious circumstances. It is becoming almost as common as reading of another road accident. I note his brother wants a full and proper investigation, with nothing swept under the carpet. I sincerely hope the truth does come out, but Thailand is very, very good at a short sharp investigation, with conclusions that save them face. Suicide, accident, misadventure, overdose..............Never murder, unless there really is no other option.True, like the 'suicide' a while back when the 'victim' had his hands tied behind his back!!!Houdini , or what?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, darksidedog said: And yet another tourist turns up dead in suspicious circumstances. It is becoming almost as common as reading of another road accident. I note his brother wants a full and proper investigation, with nothing swept under the carpet. I sincerely hope the truth does come out, but Thailand is very, very good at a short sharp investigation, with conclusions that save them face. Suicide, accident, misadventure, overdose..............Never murder, unless there really is no other option. Or there are a couple of Burmese sitting around doing nothing and someone needs to cover their arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Houdini or Houdunnit? Edited February 26, 2017 by AGareth2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 " He knew Thailand well . . . . " I think maybe not that well. I hate it for this young man but the cause of death was not behaving responsibly in a very dangerous county while attending an event that make it even more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, DILLIGAD said: True, like the 'suicide' a while back when the 'victim' had his hands tied behind his back!!! Houdini , or what? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A minor trick compared to some of the suicides contrived in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkok101 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 rather disturbing story, all too common in thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, bluebluewater said: " He knew Thailand well . . . . " I think maybe not that well. I hate it for this young man but the cause of death was not behaving responsibly in a very dangerous county while attending an event that make it even more dangerous. "...in a very dangerous county while attending an event that make it even more dangerous." You may be trying to make a point, but Thailand is definitely not "a very dangerous country". I think maybe a holiday in Somalia, Syria, Pakistan or most of central Africa might be higher on the danger scale than Thailand. It can be dangerous if you are naive or go to the wrong places at the wrong time with the wrong attitude. The danger level in Thailand is no more than the United States, where the same advisory exists. 99% of Thailand is considered safe by the thousands of expats who choose to make it their home. The 1% is where most of the trouble can happen to tourists and others.. http://www.atlasandboots.com/most-dangerous-countries-in-the-world-ranked/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I wonder when the Island will be declared Magic mushroom Full moon party capital of the world. Why is the place not cleaned up? I mean everyone knows what is going on there and the full moon parties are infamous. Just google it. Rest in peace . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkok101 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: "...in a very dangerous county while attending an event that make it even more dangerous." You may be trying to make a point, but Thailand is definitely not "a very dangerous country". I think maybe a holiday in Somalia, Syria, Pakistan or most of central Africa might be higher on the danger scale than Thailand. It can be dangerous if you are naive or go to the wrong places at the wrong time with the wrong attitude. The danger level in Thailand is no more than the United States, where the same advisory exists. 99% of Thailand is considered safe by the thousands of expats who choose to make it their home. The 1% is where most of the trouble can happen to tourists and others.. http://www.atlasandboots.com/most-dangerous-countries-in-the-world-ranked/ "I think maybe a holiday in Somalia, Syria, Pakistan or most of central Africa might be higher on the danger scale than Thailand". Who is traveling to these holiday hot spots?? Are they holiday locations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, bangkok101 said: "I think maybe a holiday in Somalia, Syria, Pakistan or most of central Africa might be higher on the danger scale than Thailand". Who is traveling to these holiday hot spots?? Are they holiday locations? That wasn't my point. Thailand is not considered "a very dangerous country". Thailand is no more "dangerous" than Singapore, Malaysia, Laos, Myanmar & Philippines who all enjoy large tourism numbers. http://www.businessinsider.com/dangerous-countries-world-tourists-travel-international-2017-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canceraid Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 So TAT and Thailand government is promoting drugs on Koh Phangan ISland especially during these full moon parties and the Thai Immigration is allowing drug addicts into Thailand. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamukloy Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This dangerous Thailand tag does get tiresome. -People are a danger to themself-(full stop) Just because certain illicit things are easier to come by here and alcohol is cheap, doesnt mean the country is dangerous. Ultimately its the person who makes the choice to take,mix,injest whatever and they choose to do these things at locations that carry more risk. Ask any expat that been here for 10+ years with zero trouble. They will tell you its the LEAST dangeous place in the world. Once again it comes down to choices and positions you allow yourself in. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 hours ago, robertthebruce said: Just read about this on Sky News ..... The picture of Thailand of late ain't that pretty now.... Koh Pangnan is not Thailand nor is Pattaya for that matter. Sensible people avoid such places and enjoy a safe, nice time in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, petermik said: Foreigners here are just an inconvenience,this is Thailand for Thai people The dopey gits are an inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 34 minutes ago, Canceraid said: So TAT and Thailand government is promoting drugs on Koh Phangan ISland especially during these full moon parties and the Thai Immigration is allowing drug addicts into Thailand. Nice! Where did you get this nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveE13 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, gamini said: Koh Pangnan is not Thailand nor is Pattaya for that matter. Sensible people avoid such places and enjoy a safe, nice time in Thailand. I agree gamini. Thousands of youngsters visit KP every year with no problems. They see it as a must go too place. But as you say there are far more nicer places to visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I spent a week on Phangan when I was 37 (2005). I had NO IDEA about the full moon parties until I got there. I wanted absolutely nothing to do with the thumping loud music (Yes, just happened to be a full moon while I was there). Luckily I was staying on Had Leela beach, but the noise was still almost unbearable from 300-400 yards away at Had Rin. You could not pay me enough to go to a full moon party, at that age & this guy was 38. Maybe it was his first time out??? RIP to poor fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 49 minutes ago, bamukloy said: Ask any expat that been here for 10+ years with zero trouble. They will tell you its the LEAST dangeous place in the world. They'd be wrong. And sadly, you can't ask all the guys who came here and didn't survive. Safety stats are published on the order of annual (unnatural) deaths per 100,000 and even a dangerous place comes in at 100 or less. So one guy (or 10 guys') experience doesn't really amount to a hill of beans. Nor do their perceptions. Except to make them feel better about where they live. Good thing, though- there are statistics published all over the interweb, and none of them paint a glowing picture of Thailand's safety culture. It's still on the order of 50-100 annual deaths per 100,000. Which means most of us will be unaffected. But it's still pretty dangerous in the rankings by country (and by tourist destination). Edited February 26, 2017 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 hours ago, trogers said: Came to a full moon party for an intensive bible study...what drugs... no dude...its all about the vibe....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 hours ago, AGareth2 said: cause of death? According to his brother, he was murdered... Yeah right, murdered by drugs which he took voluntarily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang62 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 On a recent visa border bounce, it seemed the topic of conversation in the van was always about how to get high,where they got their drugs, how to get high and where to do it and not get caught. The conversations among the Western farang's was always about drugs and how easy they were to get and consume here on Samui and Kow Phangnan. Many extended their stay on the island because of the easily obtainable drugs, no problem if they get caught. It is this mentality that causes the majority of the "unexplained deaths and disappearances" here in "The Kingdom". As long as it this easy to get these with no fear of retribution. It will never stop. Ban them from entry to "The Kingdom" for life and report the reason for their deportation to their respective government agencies. WE have enough problems as it is. Keep them out Forever never to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 hmmmm..... sounds like over dramatic nonsense to me..... the sort of stuff used to sell papers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 hours ago, bannork said: I believe his body was found in the water a week after he disappeared. If it had been in the tropical water all that time I wonder what would be left of it. Where did you get that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Presistent usage of magicmushrooms, alcohol and prescription drugs: finally his heart gave up working.. Case closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugarcane24 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Reigntax said: Kohphanganitis covers anything from missing limbs, being shot, stabbed or found floating face down in the ocean. But I suspect that in the estimation of Thai authorities, the island is yet another of the world's natural wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunduhpostman Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 You might jump to the conclusion that the guy took mushrooms and Ritalin and then drank booze some of which may have been spiked with something, it is an even bigger assumption to say he took the Ritalin. He just says that got the stuff. As for him having been murdered, "scary guy with a mask" and his statement that his drink had been spiked could be the mushrooms altering his perceptions or could have been just that, a scary guy with a mask appearing after he'd had his drink spiked or any combo of those elements. In any case, we only have what he texted to go on which may or may not correspond to what actually happened to the guy. Ritalin is not known to have any fatal effects when mixed with alcohol and/or mushrooms, if indeed they were just mushrooms with nothing else added so it really does seem there was something beyond his own drug mixing that did him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, bamukloy said: If they found the guy had actually died from drugs it would be all over the news by now But its getting onto about 2 weeks after the event and still no update or autopsy results released. Quite often it takes an inquest to confirm cause of death, but only after remains have been repatriated into the home coroners jurisdiction... Edited February 26, 2017 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 4 hours ago, bamukloy said: If they found the guy had actually died from drugs it would be all over the news by now But its getting onto about 2 weeks after the event and still no update or autopsy results released. that in itself does not sound good. His body was found 6 days ago, not 2 weeks ago. 2 weeks ago he was still sending drugged up messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 hours ago, DaveE13 said: OK I thought you meant this guy. It said in the article his brother said he had visited Thailand over 10 times. He wasn't a kid or backpacker on his first adventure to Thailand. He knew the risk mixing booze and chucking all sorts of drugs down his neck RIP mate Well, that would not necessarily make him a hooligan; just a yahoo. In case you are unfamiliar with that term, it refers to someone who makes unwise choices and/or acts a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Loads of moody people at those "Parties". Getting shit faced ,not a good idea Edited February 26, 2017 by Dave67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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